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Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Aug 13 @ 1:53 PM ET
Keep Hemsky for the year
- Bonzi

(frank) him and his 5 million dollar a year contract. If he wanted to be here so bad he wouldve taken a hometown discount. Instead he stuck us with that poop contract. In the lower cap world we can't even get a decent return for him. I say trade him to the crappiest team that will offer us a 2nd rounder for him in the hopes that its a high one. I'm sick of watching him skate around and around with the puck only to watch the play die on his stick. He doesn't have chemistry with anyone and our top 2 RW spots are filled
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Aug 13 @ 1:55 PM ET
Keep Hemsky for the year
- Bonzi

(frank) him and his 5 million dollar a year contract. If he wanted to be here so bad he wouldve taken a hometown discount. Instead he stuck us with that poop contract. In the lower cap world we can't even get a decent return for him. I say trade him to the crappiest team that will offer us a 2nd rounder for him in the hopes that its a high one. I'm sick of watching him skate around and around with the puck only to watch the play die on his stick. He doesn't have chemistry with anyone and our top 2 RW spots are filled
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Aug 13 @ 1:59 PM ET
http://islandkitchenparty.blogspot.ca/2007/10/mustard-pickles.html

This complicates the situation: Mustard pickles are only half Cucumber. Red Peppers, Cauliflower, and Onions are all apparently allowed to be called "pickle", so long as they're accompanied by cucumbers.

- Morris

Once again you've outdone yourself Morris
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 13 @ 2:01 PM ET
Once again you've outdone yourself Morris
- Ihatebrianburke

I guess it's like taking your little brother to an R rated movie.
Yak T
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.09.2009

Aug 13 @ 2:09 PM ET
"I think pickles are cucumbers that sold out. They sold their soul to the devil - and the devil was dill." - Mitch Hedberg
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Aug 13 @ 2:12 PM ET




In other News.


J. Schultz = AHL player and Ference is bottom pair on all teams save the Oilers.



Al Hacker
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Stony Plain, AB
Joined: 02.10.2007

Aug 13 @ 2:21 PM ET
In other News.


J. Schultz = AHL player and Ference is bottom pair on all teams save the Oilers.

- robin_steele264


I see you have been to the land of window lickers.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Aug 13 @ 2:24 PM ET
I see you have been to the land of window lickers.
- Al Hacker





There is no logic in that place


hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society.
Joined: 07.03.2007

Aug 13 @ 2:25 PM ET
In other News.


J. Schultz = AHL player and Ference is bottom pair on all teams save the Oilers.

- robin_steele264


WWAAAHHHHHH!!!! WAAAAHHHHH!!!!! The Canucks fans said the Oilers aren't very good in the Canucks thread! WAAAAHHHH!!!!

Pathetic.
seanjohn667
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 10.25.2012

Aug 13 @ 2:26 PM ET
so many rating Nurse over Klefbom. probably looking at draft position. do people realize that Klefbom was picked 20th, but was 1 month too old to go in the next year's draft, which would have seen him picked in the top 10. He is Dougie Hamilto/Griffin Reinhart calibre. Healso captained a gold medal winning Swedish junior team. not too shabby.

doesn't matter, tho. we have both.

and as for MacT being done for the summer. if the Oilers start the season with the current crop of centres for depth, with 3 or 4 proven NHL FA centres still out of work, then Mact is not doing his job. Arcabello, Acton and Miller simple do not cut it.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 13 @ 2:28 PM ET
WWAAAHHHHHH!!!! WAAAAHHHHH!!!!! The Canucks fans said the Oilers aren't very good in the Canucks thread! WAAAAHHHH!!!!

Pathetic.

- hankthetank


what's pathetic is that Corrado is a future #1D and Norris candidate but Schultz is a bottom pairing D.

you nuck fans'd be foaming at the mouth if he signed there
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 13 @ 2:29 PM ET
so many rating Nurse over Klefbom. probably looking at draft position. do people realize that Klefbom was picked 20th, but was 1 month too old to go in the next year's draft, which would have seen him picked in the top 10. He is Dougie Hamilto/Griffin Reinhart calibre. Healso captained a gold medal winning Swedish junior team. not too shabby.

doesn't matter, tho. we have both.

and as for MacT being done for the summer. if the Oilers start the season with the current crop of centres for depth, with 3 or 4 proven NHL FA centres still out of work, then Mact is not doing his job. Arcabello, Acton and Miller simple do not cut it.

- seanjohn667


Reinhart, maybe. Hamilton, no. Hamilton>Schultz. He's gonna be a special player in no time. BOS stole him at 9
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 13 @ 2:29 PM ET
Prospect Lists


TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 13 @ 2:31 PM ET
Prospect Lists



- AdamFrench


you're irrelevant
Al Hacker
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Stony Plain, AB
Joined: 02.10.2007

Aug 13 @ 2:35 PM ET
WWAAAHHHHHH!!!! WAAAAHHHHH!!!!! The Canucks fans said the Oilers aren't very good in the Canucks thread! WAAAAHHHH!!!!

Pathetic.

- hankthetank


Robin, why did you bring the head window licker back with you?
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Aug 13 @ 2:37 PM ET
I just got back from a week's vacation. Wow was it ever nice being away from the retards and "literature" diarrhea.
TomKlassen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 06.10.2013

Aug 13 @ 2:38 PM ET
Omark wants to be traded?!?! Wow what if we traded Omark with Hemsky for Weber?!?! They might need to give a first with him though!!!

Should have traded them while they had the chance.
seanjohn667
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 10.25.2012

Aug 13 @ 2:39 PM ET
Reinhart, maybe. Hamilton, no. Hamilton>Schultz. He's gonna be a special player in no time. BOS stole him at 9
- TheNugeIsHuge


perhaps. i mean, i haven't any proof, just going on what I've read and heard people like Mact talk about him. but, Klefbom, like Eberle, is probably better than a top 20 pick. we can look to Kelfbom being something like an Eric Brewer or Mathius Ohlund. Maybe even Boumeister. a solid, but not superstar, top pairing D. Nurse will probably be a much feared, 2nd pairing 'horse' D
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Aug 13 @ 2:39 PM ET
Read French's list. It was much better and he doesn't even cover the Oilers. I can see Hartikainen working on his skating in the KHL this year and coming back next year to play on the Oil. Hopefully the bigger ice surface will help him. Kessy would be a nice addition if he were a better skater as well. We gave up a very good prospect to get him. I think we'll see Klefbom and Marincin make the club next year with both getting called up during this year at some point. Nurse I don't see making the club for at least 2 years if not 3. We finally have enough depth now though that we don't need to rush guys like in the past. Who knows how good Paajarvi might have turned out if we'd taken our time with him.
- Ihatebrianburke


Without meaning to beat up on French, his list doesn't reflect the reality of the situation. For a prospect to develop for a team, there needs to be certain conditions. It's not all entirely about the play of the prospect themselves. Quite often, players who are not ready get pushed into the line-up too soon, and it screws with their development (Brule), or sometimes, a player never gets a real chance with a team, gets dealt, and ends up shining elsewhere (I can think of numerous former Oilers. I'll use Miro Satan for now, but there are dozens).

French's list...

Klefbom, Nurse and Marincin are all correct as the 1, 2, and 3 prospects.

Including Slepyshev, Yakimov and Roy on this list are all a bit ridiculous.

Khaira I can live with. He showed Oilers management something special during development camp that made them want to sign him immediately. I don't know if he'll play in the AHL yet...My guess is he'll play in Everett of the WHL...but the Oilers wanted him closer and playing more hockey for development purposes. He's a gooder.

Rajala likely will never get a shot with the Oilers, because they have plenty of offensively-slick smaller scoring forwards. You can't argue at all with his stats from last season. Someplace, somewhere, Rajala is going to find his way on to an NHL 2nd line, and he'll do well.

Musil has many good attributes that suggest he could become a 5/6 D man. I wouldn't rank him as a prospect ahead of Gernat, who could become a Top 4 defenseman. I'd have Gernat higher if he wasn't a little Pitkanen-insane with the puck at times.

Taylor Fedun has shown more so far, so nether should be higher than him yet. and Dillon Simpson might be better than all three, although it's hard to compare NCAA players to WHL players. Different leagues and older players.

If Teemu Hartikainen would have stuck around, and if he was willing to work harder, he would have been on the third line this season. He has all the potential, but the wrong attitude. It's unfortunate.

A guy like Kessy represents something the Oilers desperately need: A big, mean character player with skill. He gets ranked on my list because he's the type of player the Oilers are lacking, and therefore, he has a better chance than some of the other prospects to crack the roster. I'm not saying Yakimov and Slepyshev are lost causes, because they aren't. But they don't necessarily bring what Kessy would, and what he brings is something the Oilers are missing.
TomKlassen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 06.10.2013

Aug 13 @ 2:40 PM ET
Also, cucumbers may have been the first thing ever pickled. That's what I think
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 13 @ 2:40 PM ET
you're irrelevant
- TheNugeIsHuge

*slithers away*
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 13 @ 2:41 PM ET
Without meaning to beat up on French, but his list doesn't reflect the reality of the situation. For a prospect to develop for a team, there needs to be certain conditions. It's not all entirely about the play of the prospect themselves. Quite often, players who are not ready get pushed into the line-up too soon, and it screws with their development (Brule), or sometimes, a player never gets a real chance with a team, gets dealt, and ends up shining elsewhere (I can think of numerous former Oilers. I'll use Miro Satan for now, but there are dozens).

French's list...

Klefbom, Nurse and Marincin are all correct as the 1, 2, and 3 prospects.

Including Slepyshev, Yakimov and Roy on this list are all a bit ridiculous.

Khaira I can live with. He showed Oilers management something special during development camp that made them want to sign him immediately. I don't know if he'll play in the AHL yet...My guess is he'll play in Everett of the WHL...but the Oilers wanted him closer and playing more hockey for development purposes. He's a gooder.

Rajala likely will never get a shot with the Oilers, because they have plenty of offensively-slick smaller scoring forwards. You can't argue at all with his stats from last season. Someplace, somewhere, Rajala is going to find his way on to an NHL 2nd line, and he'll do well.

Musil has many good attributes that suggest he could become a 5/6 D man. I wouldn't rank him as a prospect ahead of Gernat, who could become a Top 4 defenseman. I'd have Gernat higher if he wasn't a little Pitkanen-insane with the puck at times.

Taylor Fedun has shown more so far, so nether should be higher than him yet. and Dillon Simpson might be better than all three, although it's hard to compare NCAA players to WHL players. Different leagues and older players.

If Teemu Hartikainen would have stuck around, and if he was willing to work harder, he would have been on the third line this season. He has all the potential, but the wrong attitude. It's unfortunate.

A guy like Kessy represents something the Oilers desperately need: A big, mean character player with skill. He gets ranked on my list because he's the type of player the Oilers are lacking, and therefore, he has a better chance than some of the other prospects to crack the roster. I'm not saying Yakimov and Slepyshev are lost causes, because they aren't. But they don't necessarily bring what Kessy would, and what he brings is something the Oilers are missing.

- Maxbone


SameOld
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.25.2010

Aug 13 @ 2:42 PM ET
so many rating Nurse over Klefbom. probably looking at draft position. do people realize that Klefbom was picked 20th, but was 1 month too old to go in the next year's draft, which would have seen him picked in the top 10. He is Dougie Hamilto/Griffin Reinhart calibre. Healso captained a gold medal winning Swedish junior team. not too shabby.

doesn't matter, tho. we have both.

and as for MacT being done for the summer. if the Oilers start the season with the current crop of centres for depth, with 3 or 4 proven NHL FA centres still out of work, then Mact is not doing his job. Arcabello, Acton and Miller simple do not cut it.

- seanjohn667


Ahaha nice. So you think that the other GM's didn't know he was young? What in the world would make you think that he improved enough after his draft year to be picked in the top 10 the following year?

Hilarious, you can now be lumped in with Cloutier, probably seen the guy play 2, 3 games tops.
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Aug 13 @ 2:44 PM ET
"I think pickles are cucumbers that sold out. They sold their soul to the devil - and the devil was dill." - Mitch Hedberg
- Yak T


^ this. Miss that guy though...
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Aug 13 @ 2:45 PM ET
what's pathetic is that Corrado is a future #1D and Norris candidate but Schultz is a bottom pairing D.

you nuck fans'd be foaming at the mouth if he signed there

- TheNugeIsHuge

You mean the same idiots that said hed never come here and would rather play in his home province?
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