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JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 15 @ 12:24 PM ET
yup this lowered cap is hurting players that would have been signed already for sure
- -davies-


If they all did not have to be multi millionaires this would not be a problem, I sure don't feel sorry for them. I predict Gagne will sign a one year 900,000 contract. His big paydays are over.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 15 @ 12:25 PM ET
jagr would probably still be a flyer for that matter. now, he's a sixer.
- hammarby31



honestly cannot believe he signed there

a guy i know who is a big devils fan (i know, can you believe one exists?) thinks if they can sign brunner they won't miss kovalchuk, that brunner and jagr will replace him

i think he's delusional but who knows with that damn team
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 15 @ 12:25 PM ET
I know what you're thinking. None of us are fooled, skip.
- BulliesPhan87


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 15 @ 12:26 PM ET
If they all did not have to be multi millionaires this would not be a problem, I sure don't feel sorry for them. I predict Gagne will sign a one year 900,000 contract. His big paydays are over.
- flyerdude17


If that was the case, wouldn't that fit them under the 10% overage? If so, why not just do it?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 15 @ 12:26 PM ET
According to Lava... the First pp unit will not change from last season.

Simmonds-G-Hartnell
Timonen-Voracek

- jak521



2nd unit will be...

?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 15 @ 12:28 PM ET
2nd unit will be...

?

- -davies-


Rosehill-Hall-Talbot
Gervais-backup goalie
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 15 @ 12:29 PM ET
2nd unit will be...

?

- -davies-

My guess..

Schenn-Lecavalier-Read
Meszy-Streit
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 15 @ 12:30 PM ET
According to Lava... the First pp unit will not change from last season.

Simmonds-G-Hartnell
Timonen-Voracek

- jak521


I can't believe Lava would make such a foolish statement. Training camp and preseason should see where Lecavalier fits in. Vinny will likely earn a top pp unit spot in my opinion based on his skill and past results. No need having Hartnell and Simmonds on at the same time.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 15 @ 12:30 PM ET
My guess..

Schenn-Lecavalier-Read
Meszy-Streit

- jak521






i was hoping someone would say mesz and streit
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 15 @ 12:32 PM ET
I can't believe Lava would make such a foolish statement. Training camp and preseason should see where Lecavalier fits in. Vinny will likely earn a top pp unit spot in my opinion based on his skill and past results. No need having Hartnell and Simmonds on at the same time.
- flyerdude17



we had one of the top PPs in the league last year, if it ain't broke don't fix it
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 15 @ 12:34 PM ET
honestly cannot believe he signed there

a guy i know who is a big devils fan (i know, can you believe one exists?) thinks if they can sign brunner they won't miss kovalchuk, that brunner and jagr will replace him

i think he's delusional but who knows with that damn team

- -davies-


I really believe the Devils will be a better team without Kovalchuk. They will be a closer knit team and roll four lines that will work as hard as any team in the league and will win a lot of one goal games, low scoring mind you but the goals against will likely come down. Not as colorful or exciting but will get results from hard work and solid goaltending.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 15 @ 12:35 PM ET

- jak521

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 15 @ 12:35 PM ET
we had one of the top PPs in the league last year, if it ain't broke don't fix it
- -davies-

HAHAHAWADDAFOOL!
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 15 @ 12:36 PM ET
I really believe the Devils will be a better team without Kovalchuk. They will be a closer knit team and roll four lines that will work as hard as any team in the league and will win a lot of one goal games, low scoring mind you but the goals against will likely come down. Not as colorful or exciting but will get results from hard work and solid goaltending.
- flyerdude17

Thank God he's older than dirt. I hope they are cellar dwellers this year.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 15 @ 12:36 PM ET
we had one of the top PPs in the league last year, if it ain't broke don't fix it
- -davies-


True, but things change. Briere-Leino-Hartnell lost it after one year of dominating the pp. Simmonds could well be the first pp unit again but Vinny will likely replace either Simmonds or Harts on the first unit.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 15 @ 12:37 PM ET
HAHAHAWADDAFOOL!
- Flyskippy

Did you just say "Amy Fadool"?
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 15 @ 12:38 PM ET
Thank God he's older than dirt. I hope they are cellar dwellers this year.
- Flyskippy


Two things to consider. Schneider is young and should be the number one but Marty will not hand it to him and therefore he could bounce back with a vengence and have a very solid year. And if he sucks he will likely retire.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 15 @ 12:40 PM ET
Thank God he's older than dirt. I hope they are cellar dwellers this year.
- Flyskippy

Our luck they will be the worst team three years in a row and end up getting three 1st overalls including McDavid
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 15 @ 12:41 PM ET
I would love to know what you went by prior to GOA88...
- jak521

Glak's
Other
Account
Born in '88
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 15 @ 12:41 PM ET
Thank God he's older than dirt. I hope they are cellar dwellers this year.
- Flyskippy



MB and I are the same age. damn. another shot, skip.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 15 @ 12:41 PM ET
Some of the same people who have argued with me are Jeff Carter advocates. Give me a break already. And to whom ever said look in the mirror. I gave 2 credible links. Not bleacher report. My opinion is my opinion and just that. I never once said anyone on here is wrong. I just give you stats and rankings to support my debate and you just give me your opinion. It really doesn't matter what Giroux is ranked. I just want them to win a (frank)ing Stanley cup already and I think everyone on here feels the same way. Go Flyers!
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 15 @ 12:41 PM ET
Did you just say "Amy Fadool"?
- jak521

Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyes.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Aug 15 @ 12:41 PM ET
Did you just say "Amy Fadool"?
- jak521


jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 15 @ 12:41 PM ET
True, but things change. Briere-Leino-Hartnell lost it after one year of dominating the pp. Simmonds could well be the first pp unit again but Vinny will likely replace either Simmonds or Harts on the first unit.
- flyerdude17

no doubt, but I think he wants to see them lose it before breakign them up. They were the one bright spot on an otherwise dull team.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 15 @ 12:42 PM ET
True, but things change. Briere-Leino-Hartnell lost it after one year of dominating the pp. Simmonds could well be the first pp unit again but Vinny will likely replace either Simmonds or Harts on the first unit.
- flyerdude17

Well... if it changes, then you fix it. Davies was crystal clear.
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