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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 15 @ 10:55 AM ET
Thats like not putting Richards on PK, if you have a player thats superb at killing penalties, you use him.
- GOA88


Sure if the situation dictates. A tie, or one goal game with a key defensive zone faceoff on the PK I want Giroux out there. If they Flyers are winning or losing 5-1 in the third period then having Giroux out there doesn't make much sense. You will run him into the ground doing that.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 15 @ 10:55 AM ET
Giroux's better offensively than Richards, though. I'm in favor of translating some of those PK minutes to offensively favorable ones for Giroux.
- BulliesPhan87

I see your point, but G has shown that he can handle the work load just fine and as a result we have one of the best PP AND PK in the league.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
Sure if the situation dictates. A tie, or one goal game with a key defensive zone faceoff on the PK I want Giroux out there. If they Flyers are winning or losing 5-1 in the third period then having Giroux out there doesn't make much sense. You will run him into the ground doing that.
- PLindbergh31

I agree with that
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
Yeah, therein lay the rub. I'm cautiously optimistic that a better mix of talents on the blueline can at least get us a little closer to that kind of cohesive team play.
- BulliesPhan87


I think this team could be 100 point team if things break right. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if they were a top 4 seed, or if they missed the playoffs. Lots of variables.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 15 @ 10:58 AM ET
How are your orange tinted glasses treating you?
- JFlyers00

If I was being biased I would say he is the best, Im not implying that at all, I have 2 eyes and a brain and can clearly see the things he does on the ice. I believe that as a complete package. He is one of the top 5 players in the league
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 15 @ 11:00 AM ET
LAUGHTON WILL SCORE 8000 NHL POINTS NEXT SEASON!!!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 15 @ 11:00 AM ET
I think this team could be 100 point team if things break right. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if they were a top 4 seed, or if they missed the playoffs. Lots of variables.
- PLindbergh31

After last season, I can share that uncertainty. The talent is there, though.


Is it hockey season yet?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 15 @ 11:02 AM ET
After last season, I can share that uncertainty. The talent is there, though.


Is it hockey season yet?

- BulliesPhan87


Nope. But for those of us that care, it is football season!
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 15 @ 11:02 AM ET
I think we can all agree that Giroux is the best flyers forward we have had since Lindros, and thats exciting. We havent really had any real superstars since.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 15 @ 11:02 AM ET
LAUGHTON WILL SCORE 8000 NHL POINTS NEXT SEASON!!!
- jmatchett383

I wish..........
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 11:02 AM ET
If I was being biased I would say he is the best, Im not implying that at all, I have 2 eyes and a brain and can clearly see the things he does on the ice. I believe that as a complete package. He is one of the top 5 players in the league
- GOA88



Well if you clearly see the things on the ice that he does. You'd be aware of the times he is out of position or loses his check in the defensive zone. And you'd see the areas defensively that he needs to improve on.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Aug 15 @ 11:03 AM ET
LAUGHTON WILL SCORE 8000 NHL POINTS NEXT SEASON!!!
- jmatchett383

Is that worth burning a year on his ELC, though?
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 15 @ 11:04 AM ET
Nope. But for those of us that care, it is football season!
- PLindbergh31

I like the Eagles and all but I couldnt care less honestly, The eagles have broken are a mess and for too long. I lost hope in them awhile ago.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Aug 15 @ 11:04 AM ET
The team as a whole are responsible for that. Giroux or anyone else for that matter cant do everything.
- GOA88

To some extent, but if Fedetenko's defensive play can make him a +8, and Giroux's defensive game is supposed to be so awesome, and with Giroux being on the ice for so many more goals for than Federenko, you'd think his +/- would at least get into that area. You'd think it'd at least be better than Hartnell's
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 15 @ 11:05 AM ET
Nope. But for those of us that care, it is football season!
- PLindbergh31

I thought I saw throwegg on the TV recently. Ready for the powerhouse Eagles to no huddle their way to a Super Bowl?
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 15 @ 11:06 AM ET
Well if you clearly see the things on the ice that he does. You'd be aware of the times he is out of position or loses his check in the defensive zone. And you'd see the areas defensively that he needs to improve on.
- MJL

I suppose you expect him to be perfect.... Even Datsyuk loses his man sometimes
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 15 @ 11:06 AM ET
I think we can all agree that Giroux is the best flyers forward we have had since Lindros, and thats exciting. We havent really had any real superstars since.
- GOA88


Maybe Forsberg's first year here could be argued. I've never seen another player quite like him. But yes, Giroux's an exceptionally skilled player and a legit superstar.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 15 @ 11:06 AM ET
I like the Eagles and all but I couldnt care less honestly, The eagles have broken are a mess and for too long. I lost hope in them awhile ago.
- GOA88


The Eagles are a mess.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 15 @ 11:06 AM ET
I suppose you expect him to be perfect.... Even Datsyuk loses his man sometimes
- GOA88


Blasphemy.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 15 @ 11:07 AM ET
The Eagles are a mess.
- PLindbergh31


They will somehow lose 17 regular season games this season.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 15 @ 11:07 AM ET
To some extent, but if Fedetenko's defensive play can make him a +8, and Giroux's defensive game is supposed to be so awesome, and with Giroux being on the ice for so many more goals for than Federenko, you'd think his +/- would at least get into that area. You'd think it'd at least be better than Hartnell's
- JAKEw1234

I hope your not implying that fedotenko and hartnell are better at defense then G, go outside and get some air dude.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 15 @ 11:08 AM ET
I thought I saw throwegg on the TV recently. Ready for the powerhouse Eagles to no huddle their way to a Super Bowl?
- BulliesPhan87


The no huddle should work wonders keeping that paper machete defense off the field.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 15 @ 11:09 AM ET
They will somehow lose 17 regular season games this season.
- jmatchett383


5-11 is my guess.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Aug 15 @ 11:09 AM ET
LAUGHTON WILL SCORE 8000 NHL POINTS NEXT SEASON!!!
- jmatchett383


8000 points
82 games
20 minutes per game
That's 4.8 points per minute on the ice or 97.5 points per game

nice...
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 15 @ 11:09 AM ET
5-11 is my guess.
- PLindbergh31

That sounds about right
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