8000 points
82 games
20 minutes per game
That's 4.8 points per minute on the ice or 97.5 points per game

nice...
- leon neon

Easy. But he'll never be as good defensively as Claude "Selke" Giroux.

To some extent, but if Fedetenko's defensive play can make him a +8, and Giroux's defensive game is supposed to be so awesome, and with Giroux being on the ice for so many more goals for than Federenko, you'd think his +/- would at least get into that area. You'd think it'd at least be better than Hartnell's
- JAKEw1234

I really wouldn't lean on +/- to compare those players. Fedotenko was used as a defensive specialist for sure, but being on the top line Giroux faced other teams' top lines with regularity. At least, that's what it seems like without looking at the numbers.

I hope your not implying that fedotenko and hartnell are better at defense then G, go outside and get some air dude.
- GOA88

Fedetenko is without question.

The Flyers have about, idk, 4-5 guys on the team that are better defensively. Thats just on our team alone.
- jak521

MJL and Jak21 the new Bill Meltzers. lol

I hope your not implying that fedotenko and hartnell are better at defense then G, go outside and get some air dude.
- GOA88

Hartnell, no. Federenko, yes. That's not a rip on Giroux, Rusty is a solid defensive player. I'm saying if he was so awesome defensively, he wouldve had a better +/- in spite of the rest of the team's play. That's what Kimmo, LSchenn, and Fedetenko all managed to do

Opening night for the Sixers, the first 10k fans in attendance receive an 8x10 Scott Stevens autograph.
- PLindbergh31

seriously. (frank)ing disgrace.

I suppose you expect him to be perfect.... Even Datsyuk loses his man sometimes
- GOA88

Just stop.

When Datsyuk loses his man its a rarity.

Giroux loses his man, fails to backcheck, misses his assignment and makes low % passes trying to leave his own zone consistently..

We all believe it is an aspect of his game that needs improvement...except you apparently.

We also all believe it is an aspect of his game that will improve.

I think the phrase I head about Harris from someone in the press was that Harris might be business smart, but he's sports dumb with this move.

I'm interested to see what he's playing at here. I don't think simply owning the Devils is the end game. I would love to know if the sale of the Devils franchise includes the building they play in too.
- johndewar

i believe it does. the devils have been a money pit for years, so i have to think this includes the Rock.

If I was being biased I would say he is the best, Im not implying that at all, I have 2 eyes and a brain and can clearly see the things he does on the ice. I believe that as a complete package. He is one of the top 5 players in the league
- GOA88

I am with you GOA88

Hartnell, no. Federenko, maybe. That's not a rip on Giroux, Rusty is a solid defensive player. I'm saying if he was so awesome defensively, he wouldve had a better +/- in spote of the rest of the team's play. That's what Kimmo, LSchenn, and Fedetenko all managed to do
- JAKEw1234

Kinda hard to judge a player on +/- when the team as a whole was a loser and Bryz is your goalie.

I hope your not implying that fedotenko and hartnell are better at defense then G, go outside and get some air dude.
- GOA88

Fedotenko is definitely a better defensive player than Giroux.

Breathe, its ok......

I am with you GOA88
- flyerdude17

Thank you

seriously. (frank)ing disgrace.
- hammarby31

I know technically it's not, but it feels like a conflict of interests to me. I could give a rats ass about the NBA, haven't watched games since Jordan retired, but there is something wrong with owning a Philadelphia sports franchise, and the Devils.

Fedotenko is definitely a better defensive player than Giroux.

Breathe, its ok......

- MBFlyerfan

Thats why Giroux has been ranked as one of the best defensive forwards in the game, top 10. This isnt just my opinion, but players in the league that take votes and PROFESSIONAL hockey analyst who arent drinking the orange kool-aid.

I suppose you expect him to be perfect.... Even Datsyuk loses his man sometimes
- GOA88

I heard Wayne Gretzky didn't score a goal on every shot he took. What a scrub.

Thats why Giroux has been ranked as one of the best defensive forwards in the game, top 10. This isnt just my opinion, but players in the league that take votes and PROFESSIONAL hockey analyst who arent drinking the orange kool-aid.
- GOA88

link?

8000 points
82 games
20 minutes per game
That's 4.8 points per minute on the ice or 97.5 points per game

nice...
- leon neon

I noticed you didn't add play-off games in there. Come on take this seriously!

Kinda hard to judge a player on +/- when the team as a whole was a loser and Bryz is your goalie.
- GOA88

Andour best defensive forwards (read, talbot, rusty) all manged to be + in spote of the team

link?
- BulliesPhan87

Sure, give me a second

I noticed you didn't add play-off games in there. Come on take this seriously!

- FlyersGrace

They won't make the playoffs.

The Eagles are a mess.
- PLindbergh31

speaking of football, what do you think of this logo concept for your giants?

Sure, give me a second
- GOA88

tyvm

Thats why Giroux has been ranked as one of the best defensive forwards in the game, top 10. This isnt just my opinion, but players in the league that take votes and PROFESSIONAL hockey analyst who arent drinking the orange kool-aid.
- GOA88

Says the guy gargling the Giroux juice.

Face it, YOU ARE WRONG. Your opinion is nonsense.

I think we can all agree that Giroux is the best flyers forward we have had since Lindros, and thats exciting. We havent really had any real superstars since.
- GOA88

sorry, but i put a healthy forsberg ahead of giroux. granted that was only for about 10 minutes, but still.

speaking of football, what do you think of this logo concept for your giants?


- hammarby31

WTF is that? Looks like a hybrid between the University of Alabama, and the Football Giants.

Not a fan of that at all. Where did you see this?