I'm saying he's not as good as the stud #1 D-Man he was hyped in Florida.
- RogerRoeper

He is good enough that Team Canada is seriously considering bringing him to the Olympics.

How many non-studs does Team Canada let tag along?

Imagine Eriksson with an actual top six center...scary!!


- LeftCoaster

Kessel is 4th in NHL scoring the past 2 years without a top 6 centre

He is good enough that Team Canada is seriously considering bringing him to the Olympics.

How many non-studs does Team Canada let tag along?
- carcus

He'll play very few minutes. My point was about his unbelievable hype he got in Florida.

Right now Kessel is better. Why would their overall careers matter? When the Leafs first got Kessel people said Burke should have just signed Cammelari as a UFA because he's better than Kessel. How is that thought process working out now?

Seguin being a drunken slob and traded by age 21 has severely hurt the "Worst Trade Eva" argument.
- RogerRoeper

That's not true at all. Why because he scores more? They are both good players, Eriksson is a better 200 foot forward though. Depends how you look at the game I guess.

Kessel is 4th in NHL scoring the past 2 years without a top 6 centre
- RogerRoeper

That was part of the joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's not true at all. Why because he scores more? They are both good players, Eriksson is a better 200 foot forward though. Depends how you look at the game I guess.
- LeftCoaster

Stop with the defense excuse. Defense is overrated. The NHl scoring is dropping yearly.

Yes, being 4th in NHL scoring the past two years and playing great in the playoffs with Tyler Bozak means he's better.

We're going to reach a point soon where there's no way 50 goal scorers or 100 point scorers in the NHL. But people act like defensive play is the be all and end all.

That was part of the joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- LeftCoaster

Oh you joker.......stop that!!!!!

Stop with the defense excuse. Defense is overrated. The NHl scoring is dropping yearly.

Yes, being 4th in NHL scoring the past two years and playing great in the playoffs with Tyler Bozak means he's better.
- RogerRoeper

ok....Alex Semin and Phil Kessel are of equal value then you'd agree?

That's not true at all. Why because he scores more? They are both good players, Eriksson is a better 200 foot forward though. Depends how you look at the game I guess.
- LeftCoaster

Agreed, Loui can play all 3 zones at a high level. Kessel is a one dimensional player and will always be that. Wouldn't shock me if Eriksson put up better numbers than Kessel this year playing on a very potent Bruins team.

Phaneuf & a 1st to St Louis, Pieterangelp to the Leafs?

ok....Alex Semin and Phil Kessel are of equal value then you'd agree?
- LeftCoaster

If I was the Leafs I wouldn't trade Kessel for Semin, not in this lifetime, or the next one or even the next onw or the one after that. NEVER NEVER NEVER!!!!!

Phaneuf & a 1st to St Louis, Pieterangelp to the Leafs?
- GCHonda

Deal. Not sure the Blues have the rights to Peiterangelp, but he sounds pretty good.

ok....Alex Semin and Phil Kessel are of equal value then you'd agree?
- LeftCoaster

No. Kessel right now is better. And Kessel is more consistent, and can score with anyone.

BTW, why do people still act like Jared Knight is some stud prospect?

Apparently, the best way to be considered a "Franchise Player" is to be traded for Phil Kessel. You don't have to play an NHL game.

No. Kessel right now is better. And Kessel is more consistent, and can score with anyone.
- RogerRoeper

you've got it bad for Kessel. I'll give you this, he's a very good OFFENSIVE player. That said, you're overstating him a bit. We all do it though.

They've got the same amount of points right now, so they're of equal value.

BTW, why do people still act like Jared Knight is some stud prospect?

Apparently, the best way to be considered a "Franchise Player" is to be traded for Phil Kessel. You don't have to play an NHL game.
- RogerRoeper

Who?

you've got it bad for Kessel. I'll give you this, he's a very good OFFENSIVE player. That said, you're overstating him a bit. We all do it though.

They've got the same amount of points right now so they're of equal value.
- LeftCoaster

Hey when Kessel was traded all we heard was how he only did it because of Marc Savard. Now he's a top 5 scorer the past two years with the exact opposite situation and people still don't want to give him credit.

And Semin's stats are not as good BTW.

Deal. Not sure the Blues have the rights to Peiterangelp, but he sounds pretty good.



- carcus

Well Peiterangelo is an RFA. I realize the Blues fans want 1000% to get him signed & don't want his rights traded. Totally understandable. I'm just giving an option in case negotiations with the Blues reach a complete impasse.

Hey when Kessel was traded all we heard was how he only did it because of Marc Savard. Now he's a top 5 scorer the past two years with the exact opposite situation and people still don't want to give him credit.

And Semin's stats are not as god BTW.
- RogerRoeper

Semin had six less points in four less games, you're splitting hairs, give me a break. Their numbers are almost the exact same! If goals are suddenly somehow worth more than assists then they'd better re-write the record books for Gretzky.

Semin had six less points in four less games, you're splitting hairs, give me a break. Their numbers are almost the exact same! If goals are suddenly somehow worth more than assists then they'd better re-write the record books for Gretzky.
- LeftCoaster

Semin had 30 less the previous season.

Well Peiterangelo is an RFA. I realize the Blues fans want 1000% to get him signed & don't want his rights traded. Totally understandable. I'm just giving an option in case negotiations with the Blues reach a complete impasse.
- GCHonda

Think you missed that he was pointing out the typeo in the same.

Who?
- LeftCoaster

Seguin, Hamilton.

Hey when Kessel was traded all we heard was how he only did it because of Marc Savard. Now he's a top 5 scorer the past two years with the exact opposite situation and people still don't want to give him credit.

And Semin's stats are not as god BTW.
- RogerRoeper

Well said RR. Remember, Kessel's 1st 3 seasons with an inferior Leaf team, he scored 30 plus goals in each season. Not to mention 20 goals in 48 games last season. All 4 seasons mind u WITHOUT a true #1 center, Despite he's all obstacles faced since arriving in TO, the guy has produced big time.

Semin had 30 less the previous season.
- RogerRoeper

But you only want to talk about last year when it comes to Eriksson? You keep saying "currently", so lets talk last year.

For the record over the past four years Loui Eriksson has only 29 less points than Kessel (253 vs 224), but he's +15 as oppose to Kessel who is -41. Are they really "currently" that far apart?

But you only want to talk about last year when it comes to Eriksson? You keep saying "currently", so lets talk last year.

For the record over the past four years Loui Eriksson has only 29 less points than Kessel (253 vs 224), but he's +15 as oppose to Kessel who is -41. Are they really "currently" that far apart?
- LeftCoaster

Erikkson the previous season was also outscored by Kessel.