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thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Sep 4 @ 3:01 PM ET
I'm not sure what drafting and developing is to you, but when your roster looks like this:
Justin Abdelkader
Joakim Andersson
Pavel Datsyuk
Cory Emmerton
Johan Franzen
Darren Helm
Gustav Nyquist
Tomas Tatar
Henrik Zetterberg
Danny DeKeyser
Jonathan Ericsson
Jakub Kindl
Niklas Kronwall
Brendan Smith
Jimmy Howard

I'd say that's decent drafting and development

- IanEsplen

Yep looks pretty horrible to me.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 4 @ 3:02 PM ET
Yep looks pretty horrible to me.
- thundachunk



Can't hold a candle to our drafting
noffsin6
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 08.01.2006

Sep 4 @ 3:03 PM ET
I doubt he would take the job anyways. Maybe in a couple of years.

The Wings aren't exactly a bad team to work for. His sons both play up the road at Michigan State and his daughters are around high school age so moving probably isn't ideal.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 4 @ 3:05 PM ET
I loved Blake Price about an hour ago on the 1040 saying Canucks should offer sheet Kadri at 5.5 just to piss off Nonis and give him some payback .
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Sep 4 @ 3:07 PM ET
I loved Blake Price about an hour ago on the 1040 saying Canucks should offer sheet Kadri at 5.5 just to piss off Nonis and give him some payback .
- VANTEL

I wouldn't give up the picks for Kadri.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 4 @ 3:08 PM ET
I'm not sure what drafting and developing is to you, but when your roster looks like this:
Justin Abdelkader
Joakim Andersson
Pavel Datsyuk
Cory Emmerton
Johan Franzen
Darren Helm
Gustav Nyquist
Tomas Tatar
Henrik Zetterberg
Danny DeKeyser
Jonathan Ericsson
Jakub Kindl
Niklas Kronwall
Brendan Smith
Jimmy Howard

I'd say that's decent drafting and development

- IanEsplen

Daniel Sedin
Henrik Sedin
Ryan Kesler
Alex Burrows
Kevin Bieksa
Alex Edler
Janik Hansen
Corey Schneider
Jordan Schroeder
Mason Raymond
Chris Tanev
Cody Hodgson

I can do that too. Last year or the year before the Canucks also had several players that came up through the system. Four of the guys you listed on there have less than 50 NHL games of experience!

I'm not saying they're the worst in the NHL, obviously that's not true at all. But it's truly a myth that they're the best in the league...IMO.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 4 @ 3:11 PM ET
I wouldn't give up the picks for Kadri.
- thundachunk



1 st and a 3rd . So that is a 20 the and an 80 th overall for a guy drafted 7 th. I would not think twice about it.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Sep 4 @ 3:12 PM ET
I'm not sure what drafting and developing is to you, but when your roster looks like this:
Justin Abdelkader
Joakim Andersson
Pavel Datsyuk
Cory Emmerton
Johan Franzen
Darren Helm
Gustav Nyquist
Tomas Tatar
Henrik Zetterberg
Danny DeKeyser
Jonathan Ericsson
Jakub Kindl
Niklas Kronwall
Brendan Smith
Jimmy Howard

I'd say that's decent drafting and development

- IanEsplen


Those names mean nothing. They got lucky with Datsyuk and Zetterberg in late rounds. How have their first 3 rounds been?

Dekeyser was a college signing, take him off your list.

The other names on there are average hockey players, most won't even play in the NHL.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 4 @ 3:12 PM ET
If beer drinking is included in the carriculum ,then you are the man and I know where you can get 20 assistants who would love to get paid in beer.
- VANTEL

I'll keep you posted.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 4 @ 3:13 PM ET
Daniel Sedin
Henrik Sedin
Ryan Kesler
Alex Burrows
Kevin Bieksa
Alex Edler
Janik Hansen
Corey Schneider
Jordan Schroeder
Mason Raymond
Chris Tanev
Cody Hodgson

I can do that too. Last year or the year before the Canucks also had several players that came up through the system. Five of the guys you listed on there have less than 50 NHL games of experience!

I'm not saying they're the worst in the NHL, obviously that's not true at all. But it's truly a myth that they're the best in the league...IMO.

- LeftCoaster

Burrows and Tanev were not drafted but they were developed.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 4 @ 3:14 PM ET
Those names mean nothing. They got lucky with Datsyuk and Zetterberg in late rounds. How have their first 3 rounds been?

Dekeyser was a college signing, take him off your list.

The other names on there are average hockey players, most won't even play in the NHL.

- Scooby_Doo

That list is full of second tier players, bottom six players, it's really nothing to brag about. I'm sure if I listed other teams they'd be very similar.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 4 @ 3:15 PM ET
Burrows and Tanev were not drafted but they were developed.
- VANTEL

Yes I know, he included a few free agent signings (Danny Dekeyser) so I included Tanev and Burrows.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 4 @ 3:15 PM ET
Yes I know, he included a few free agent signings (Danny Dekeyser) so I included Tanev and Burrows.
- LeftCoaster

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Sep 4 @ 3:16 PM ET
Burrows and Tanev were not drafted but they were developed.
- VANTEL

Luc Bourdon was a good draft.
22sedins33
Vancouver Canucks
Location: London, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Sep 4 @ 3:17 PM ET
Is Gary Roberts an option? If so, he has my vote. If nothing else it'd mean more of our guys getting into his biosteel camps. I don't really see how he'd be any less likely to accept the job than Chelios either.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 4 @ 3:19 PM ET
Is Gary Roberts an option? If so, he has my vote. If nothing else it'd mean more of our guys getting into his biosteel camps. I don't really see how he'd be any less likely to accept the job than Chelios either.
- 22sedins33



Roberts and Gillis ,good one
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Sep 4 @ 3:20 PM ET
Umberger, Grabner.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 4 @ 3:20 PM ET
Will be one of the following
a) Former Gillis Client
b) Former Canuck
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 4 @ 3:21 PM ET
Is Gary Roberts an option? If so, he has my vote. If nothing else it'd mean more of our guys getting into his biosteel camps. I don't really see how he'd be any less likely to accept the job than Chelios either.
- 22sedins33

Somewho I don't see him and Mikey (I'm the smartest man on earth) getting along???
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 4 @ 3:23 PM ET
Two Canucks bloggers now?

Cordell's saying he will start assisting starting Thursday..

- Whiskey-Tango



Why not one of our guys? I think prospects blogs by Fosco , rant blogs by booner, AV blogs by DCT, rah rah blogs by Boinker and Kesler shower reports from Nucker.

KB3 and Scooby as Mods and we are set.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 4 @ 3:24 PM ET
Will be one of the following
a) Former Gillis Client
b) Former Canuck

- VanHockeyGuy



Courtnall or Ronning.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 4 @ 3:26 PM ET
Two Canucks bloggers now?

Cordell's saying he will start assisting starting Thursday..

- Whiskey-Tango


Interesting both are from out of Province.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Sep 4 @ 3:27 PM ET
Courtnall or Ronning.
- VANTEL

Malhotra
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Sep 4 @ 3:28 PM ET
Dear god. The Sabers new third jersey is horrendous
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Sep 4 @ 3:28 PM ET
Why not one of our guys? I think prospects blogs by Fosco , rant blogs by booner, AV blogs by DCT, rah rah blogs by Boinker and Kesler shower reports from Nucker.

KB3 and Scooby as Mods and we are set.

- VANTEL


I could use some help modding, been banning so many leafers that I ain't got time to post.
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