Why should he be punished by cap mismanagement?
- stormey

Nothing to do with cap management. He doesn't deserve a big pay raise for half years work of three years.

Right right...perfect...anything else I should add!?
- Colin Dambrauskas

We can also send you a veteran defenseman for a 1st, a 2nd and the rights to a former number one draft pick........ So Phaneuf back to the Flames, for a 1st, 2nd and the rights to Monahan.

That sir, is called a "desperate" move.

Its like taking your surround sound to the pawnshop for 20 bucks so they can sell it for 100, instead of taking the time to list on kijiji and finding the right sucker to give you 100 themselves.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Nah, it's like letting someone else assume your car lease because you can't afford it along with your mortgage, and you don't want to lose your house. Priorities.

Why should he be punished by cap mismanagement?
- stormey

he's not being punished but shown the reality of things.
I say he and Franson should take 2.5m 1 year deal and cashing next year/contract.

His rights are being traded to Calgary Give me some time to finish the blog!!
- Colin Dambrauskas

Hurry the (frank) up

No, not a Sens fan. Don't like the Smurfs either.
- PrinceLH

Well you are obviously a big fan of Miss Piggy

I really don't think they'll get much more than that for Liles at this time of the season.
- stormey

I beg to differ...hes still a good puck moving defender who can put up points if hes still healthy which I feel that he is. If anything grab a prospect or two. But to dish him away for a 7th rounder is a waste imo.

Well you are obviously a big fan of Miss Piggy
- Symba007

No fan of Cary Price, either.

No, he's getting offersheeted. Not a trade.
- PrinceLH

so that would be 1st and a 3rd for sure and quite possibly a 2nd as well.

Nothing to do with cap management. He doesn't deserve a big pay raise for half years work of three years.
- Yeti1181

Well he was second on the team in scoring and the team likely would have missed the playoffs without him.
He was supposed to be better last year....and he was.

Of course he deserves a raise. Does he deserve the 5.5 he was rumored to be asking...no. But the fact is both he and Franson combined deserve more than the cap room the Leafs have left.

No fan of Cary Price, either.
- PrinceLH

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...9364&forum_id=1&page=last

Nah, it's like letting someone else assume your car lease because you can't afford it along with your mortgage, and you don't want to lose your house. Priorities.
- ThePresident

Nice angle! Well played *slow clap*

he's not being punished but shown the reality of things.
I say he and Franson should take 2.5m 1 year deal and cashing next year/contract.
- zazzle

Since this is a new year for Franson, why not sign a one year deal for 3 million dollars, then sign another new deal, the next day, for 5 years X $4.25? The one year deal is in effect for this year and since it's the last year of his deal, the next one is a renegotiation.

I beg to differ...hes still a good puck moving defender who can put up points if hes still healthy which I feel that he is. If anything grab a prospect or two. But to dish him away for a 7th rounder is a waste imo.
- Colin Dambrauskas

At 4 mill a year?

Most teams are already right up against the cap or at their self-imposed cap. There is a reason guys like Brunner and Boyes are still looking for a place to lace-em-up.

There just isn't a big market for Liles right now....in my opinion (which means nothing).

Since this is a new year for Franson, why not sign a one year deal for 3 million dollars, then sign another new deal, the next day, for 5 years X $4.25? The one year deal is in effect for this year and since it's the last year of his deal, the next one is a renegotiation.
- PrinceLH

the only thing is that it would need to be in the new year before they sign him that extention.
didn't lindros have a simular deal with the Rangers

At 4 mill a year?

Most teams are already right up against the cap or at their self-imposed cap. There is a reason guys like Brunner and Boyes are still looking for a place to lace-em-up.

There just isn't a big market for Liles right now....in my opinion (which means nothing).
- stormey

I believe there will be a market for him but not till mid to end of November.

the only thing is that it would need to be in the new year before they sign him that extention.
didn't lindros have a simular deal with the Rangers
- zazzle

I thought that was the case also....but explain the Crawford extension, or the fact the Leafs could extend Kessel now.

Definitely think that Franson should get the bulk of the remaining cap room.

Kadri's attitude after just one season really makes me wonder if we're hitting another speed-bump in his maturing.

Is this the sign of a serious character flaw

I believe there will be a market for him but not till mid to end of November.
- zazzle

Yeah I agree, if it was as simple as getting rid of Liles it'd have happened by now.

At 4 mill a year?

Most teams are already right up against the cap or at their self-imposed cap. There is a reason guys like Brunner and Boyes are still looking for a place to lace-em-up.

There just isn't a big market for Liles right now....in my opinion (which means nothing).
- stormey

I could see interset in a few teams with some cash...COL/CGY being two...but like I said, it's what the Leafs are willing to take for him. Dont think theyll want what Calgary can offer.

Definitely think that Franson should get the bulk of the remaining cap room.

Kadri's attitude after just one season really makes me wonder if we're hitting another speed-bump in his maturing.

Is this the sign of a serious character flaw
- AngryWhiteMale

He'll sign before training camp and you'll be happy.

Definitely think that Franson should get the bulk of the remaining cap room.

Kadri's attitude after just one season really makes me wonder if we're hitting another speed-bump in his maturing.

Is this the sign of a serious character flaw
- AngryWhiteMale

or you know.. he's 22

we're pretty much all wieners at that age

i was.. still havent grown out of that yet either

I could see interset in a few teams with some cash...COL/CGY being two...but like I said, it's what the Leafs are willing to take for him. Dont think theyll want what Calgary can offer.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Leafs would happily give him away for a late pick.
but that deal isn't out there. Will have to either retain salary to take a contract back... or both

Leafs would happily give him away for a late pick.
but that deal isn't out there. Will have to either retain salary to take a contract back... or both
- Big_Lightnin

Not so sure about this.

or you know.. he's 22

we're pretty much all wieners at that age

i was.. still havent grown out of that yet either
- Dozzer

Burn him at the stakes.