Sorry if I killed the thread

Oh no I agree with all that. I mean more that he went out and improved the team, and not having Kadri would undermine those improvements.
- scotch_tape

He probably didn't think it would be this difficult. Who knows. One thing we do know is Nonis controls Kadri. Even if another team offer sheets, Nonis can match and adjust his teams roster/cap accordingly. So thats pretty much what he must have been thinking. That he needs to improve the hockey club, and its not going to happen from within any time soon, so handle things in accordance to priority of timeline. Gather the pieces that require immediate attention and deal with the matters that can wait later on.

I agree though, Kadri should have been signed before they got to Bolland. Also, Gunnar should have been signed after Franson was taken care of. Oh well, it's not going to be the downfall of this team if the Leafs come short in 13-14'.

IMO it doesn't help Mackenzie when someone directly involved tells him he's wrong and he defends his stance. It's ok to be wrong, everyone can make mistakes but him defending his position seems a little silly to me
- xxCHRISTOFIRExx

He's defending what he wrote. He doesn't have a position. He has a source and he's saying "this is what my source told me." He's standing by that source. Nothing more. It's not personal for Bob. Bob retracting his statements after Kadri saying he's wrong would be quite unprofessional and cost him serious cred.

He probably didn't think it would be this difficult. Who knows. One thing we do know is Nonis controls Kadri. Even if another team offer sheets, Nonis can match and adjust his teams roster/cap accordingly. So thats pretty much what he must have been thinking. That he needs to improve the hockey club, and its not going to happen from within any time soon, so handle things in accordance to priority of timeline. Gather the pieces that require immediate attention and deal with the matters that can wait later on.
- systemtool

The leafs don't live or die with or without Kadri - plug a plugger in there until he's sick of watching from home. I don't think he will hold out long but I believe he's gonna wait a month or so. Imo

Could have just stayed quiet about it like he says he was gonna.

He's defending what he wrote. He doesn't have a position. He has a source and he's saying "this is what my source told me." He's standing by that source. Nothing more. It's not personal for Bob. Bob retracting his statements after Kadri saying he's wrong would be quite unprofessional and cost him serious cred.
- scotch_tape

Kadri simply said that he was wrong. I think this is being made into a bigger deal than it should be.

Both guys seem to have tweeted what they felt was the truth. Until we know for certain who was right, which we likely never will, I dont think it's fair that Kadri is being made the villain in all this.

Kadri simply said that he was wrong. I think this is being made into a bigger deal than it should be.

Both guys seem to have tweeted what they felt was the truth. Until we know for certain who was right, which we likely never will, I dont think it's fair that Kadri is being made the villain in all this.
- systemtool

Yeah but he suits the role

what deal makes franson an RFA again? Or does he become a UFA
- Mapleleafs_91

A one year deal leaves him as an RFA when it expires. Two years or longer and he's a UFA.

Kadri simply said that he was wrong. I think this is being made into a bigger deal than it should be.

Both guys seem to have tweeted what they felt was the truth. Until we know for certain who was right, which we likely never will, I dont think it's fair that Kadri is being made the villain in all this.
- systemtool

No it's not fair but that's the way it rolls wih the media. Kadri is in a no win situation there

A one year deal leaves him as an RFA when it expires. Two years or longer and he's a UFA.
- The Shrike

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I'm pretty sure he can sign 2 and not be a UFA or are you talking Franson?

He's defending what he wrote. He doesn't have a position. He has a source and he's saying "this is what my source told me." He's standing by that source. Nothing more. It's not personal for Bob. Bob retracting his statements after Kadri saying he's wrong would be quite unprofessional and cost him serious cred.
- scotch_tape

i don't think retracting the statement is what was needed.

All bobo had to say was "well kadri, care to let us know what you're asking for?"

He looks like a douche bag for defending what he wrote about someone when that someone is telling him it's wrong.

No it's not fair but that's the way it rolls wih the media. Kadri is in a no win situation there
- scotch_tape

Agree on that for sure. Hopefully he realises it sooner rather than later...

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I'm pretty sure he can sign 2 and not be a UFA or are you talking Franson?
- Garnie

we are talking franson, so if franson signed a 1 year deal he would be a RFA still but if he signs 2 years hed be a UFA?

He's defending what he wrote. He doesn't have a position. He has a source and he's saying "this is what my source told me." He's standing by that source. Nothing more. It's not personal for Bob. Bob retracting his statements after Kadri saying he's wrong would be quite unprofessional and cost him serious cred.
- scotch_tape

He could have said "this is what my source told me" and that would have been fine, but it sounded to me like he said "well this is what my source says and I think he knows a little more about this than you" to the guy this contract is for.

You are right though, he shouldn't necessarily come out with an apology or throw his source under the bus but it just came off as a little smug to me. But of course that's my interpretation.

Haha you're kidding right? How is he in another class? It's not like Kadri was some dusty 4th round pick who just had one magical season.

I never said he was better than Eberle, but to suggest they are in different classes is idiotic at best. Not only did Kadri have a better year last year, he is a year younger.

Time will tell.

Edit: Draft class younger
- SameOld

Yeah, Kadri had a good 4 months...

Ebs got 34 goals in his second year, scores at 0.75 ppg pretty consistently over 3 seasons, and played last year with a broken finger.

Kadri has lots to prove until he's in the same class as Eberle. To not recognize that is just idiotic.

we are talking franson, so if franson signed a 1 year deal he would be a RFA still but if he signs 2 years hed be a UFA?
- Mapleleafs_91

Sign him to 2 and then resign him next year if the cap goes up

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I'm pretty sure he can sign 2 and not be a UFA or are you talking Franson?
- Garnie

He was asking about Franson.

He was asking about Franson.
- The Shrike

Yeah I got that - sorry I was too lazy to read back!!!

Kadri simply said that he was wrong. I think this is being made into a bigger deal than it should be.

Both guys seem to have tweeted what they felt was the truth. Until we know for certain who was right, which we likely never will, I dont think it's fair that Kadri is being made the villain in all this.
- systemtool

I could be wrong here, but I think the folks at TSN read that as bobo (bow-bow) and not Bob-O and probably viewed it as derogatory. Therefore causing a massive stink about. At least Mark Masters read it as bobo.

This kind of is a Leafs thread. Were you dense enough to think there would be none here? Don't tuck it between your legs. Say what you came here to say and don't hold back on the hatetheleafs4evr sauce.
- systemtool

I've met a few leaf fans on here who aren't total homers, and I'm not here to hate, but c'mon, a good half-season after being sent to the minors and buddy thinks Kadri is on the same level as Eberle...

He could have said "this is what my source told me" and that would have been fine, but it sounded to me like he said "well this is what my source says and I think he knows a little more about this than you" to the guy this contract is for.

You are right though, he shouldn't necessarily come out with an apology or throw his source under the bus but it just came off as a little smug to me. But of course that's my interpretation.
- xxCHRISTOFIRExx

Bobo is Smug Period. His head has gotten so Big that he can't even admit a source could be wrong.

Sign him to 2 and then resign him next year if the cap goes up
- Garnie

I wouldn't take that chance if that allows him to become a UFA. Id rather see how he does this year in a full year, still having him as an RFA, and then we can see if we want to move him or keep him. Same goes with kadri but on a 2 year deal. Next years free agency will be a good one hopefully

I could be wrong here, but I think the folks at TSN read that as bobo (bow-bow) and not Bob-O and probably viewed it as derogatory. Therefore causing a massive stink about. At least Mark Masters read it as bobo.
- xxCHRISTOFIRExx

I like the new nickname

wrong
- scotch_tape

Well that solidifies it..... couldn't be more correct.

I've met a few leaf fans on here who aren't total homers, and I'm not here to hate, but c'mon, a good half-season after being sent to the minors and buddy thinks Kadri is on the same level as Eberle...


- BigDre

I agree he doesn't deserve the big contract, but they are similar players - high skilled and highly drafted, Kadri is just having/had a slower start. IMO