Bieksa#3
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nothing, because it's a package deal, even with the cap going up, what team would have $12-15 million available for a combined 2 signings, thats what makes this situation different then others
although, Nashville, (if they ever figured out you need goals to win), could be a possible destination, 4 years $27 million each - puckhead17
Stl my friend. |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 07.21.2009
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Thank you .
This is exactly what Canucks have to be careful of. It is a package deal and Canucks can do really really good or sink their franchise. They need a hometown discount and use the extra money to bring in some support. - VANTEL
Anything south of 6 per is a discount |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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Stl my friend. - Bieksa#3
Possibly, but I was thinking (if its viable) more so a team that's struggling for goals & culture change, imagine the Preds with a power play of the Sedins & Weber?
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Fans of other teams
What would you offer them on July 5th (or whatever the date is now)? - IanEsplen
Yeah, this is not going to end well... |
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Fans of other teams
What would you offer them on July 5th (or whatever the date is now)? - IanEsplen
Yeah, this is not going to end well... |
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Anything south of 6 per is a discount - Bieksa#3
They don't need the money ,they do need a cup.
If it was one player it would be ok but you have 2 declining players . IMO you don't give declining players a raise. You cut back . It does not have to be a haircut ,but their is nothing wrong with 5 mil per year.
I agree let the Sedins retire a Canuck but keep the salary around 5 mil per,or do one year deals at a time. |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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Anything south of 6 per is a discount - Bieksa#3
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 07.21.2009
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Possibly, but I was thinking (if its viable) more so a team that's struggling for goals & culture change, imagine the Preds with a power play of the Sedins & Weber? - puckhead17
Stick them on stl. On a line with Backes. And they finally have a legit 1st line |
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- LeftCoaster
A good comparable is Alfredsson he is at 5.5 so seeing there are two they should be 5 - 5.3 |
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Can't see the Sedins taking a put cut when they're 33, but I can't see them receiving a big raise either... 5yrs @ $6.5m for $32.5m.
If Gillis wants fewer years, it will be $7m per. |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 07.21.2009
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A good comparable is Alfredsson he is at 5.5 so seeing there are two they should be 5 - 5.3 - VANTEL
I think 5.5-5.75. Right now the twins are considerably better then Alfie |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 07.21.2009
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Can't see the Sedins taking a put cut when they're 33, but I can't see them receiving a big raise either... 5yrs @ $6.5m for $32.5m.
If Gillis wants fewer years, it will be $7m per. - As_I_See_It
65.>6.1 yet no raise |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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They don't need the money ,they do need a cup.
If it was one player it would be ok but you have 2 declining players . IMO you don't give declining players a raise. You cut back . It does not have to be a haircut ,but their is nothing wrong with 5 mil per year.
I agree let the Sedins retire a Canuck but keep the salary around 5 mil per,or do one year deals at a time. - VANTEL
Agreed on the package deal thing, but geez, even their declining numbers are still better then other players in league making more or similar, I can't see less then $6 mill each, Hamhuis makes $4.5 & the twins at $5 mill ea.? Despite the slight decline its low, as I mentioned earlier getting more support up front, (an injured Booth) another scoring winger would do wonders for the top 2 lines and may help their production. Of course the new defense shot blocking coach will have a lot to say about their production. |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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Can't see the Sedins taking a put cut when they're 33, but I can't see them receiving a big raise either... 5yrs @ $6.5m for $32.5m.
If Gillis wants fewer years, it will be $7m per. - As_I_See_It
They'll either want short term, 2 years or so, or something that will take them into retirement. Im thinking 5 years too. Maybe 6. |
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A good comparable is Alfredsson he is at 5.5 so seeing there are two they should be 5 - 5.3 - VANTEL
... Alfy is 8 YEARS OLDER?!?!?!
Definitely not a comparable. That's almost like saying Brodeur and Lundqvist are comparable right now.
No chance H/D take a pay cut. Dream on. |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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A good comparable is Alfredsson he is at 5.5 so seeing there are two they should be 5 - 5.3 - VANTEL
He's 41? |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 07.21.2009
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They'll either want short term, 2 years or so, or something that will take them into retirement. Im thinking 5 years too. Maybe 6. - systemtool
Agreed |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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... Alfy is 8 YEARS OLDER?!?!?!
Definitely not a comparable. That's almost like saying Brodeur and Lundqvist are comparable right now. - As_I_See_It
Yeah, or what Selane makes now vs 10 years ago |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 07.21.2009
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... Alfy is 8 YEARS OLDER?!?!?!
Definitely not a comparable. That's almost like saying Brodeur and Lundqvist are comparable right now. - As_I_See_It
Or Kessel and some high school kid playing pick up hockey |
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Or Kessel and some high school kid playing pick up hockey - Bieksa#3
... Or your mom and that smokin' milf down the road |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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... Or your mom and that smokin' milf down the road - As_I_See_It
Rick flair to u
Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
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jnwood2517
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 01.27.2009
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5.75/yr is too low to get it done, especially on a 3 year deal.
Maybe on a longer term -- but with the Luongo fiasco, I can imagine management wanting to stay away from deals that take players into their 40s...
6.5/yr on a 3 year deal. People can say what they want about the Sedins, but they're still All-Stars. |
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dshiddy
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canucks blogger in disguise., BC Joined: 06.23.2008
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4 years, 30m would be appropriate. Most swedes want to go back to Sweden and raise their kids before they start middle school. Naslund was a mentor of the twins and he went back at 35. |
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puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Old Time Hockey Joined: 08.14.2011
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4 years, 30m would be appropriate. Most swedes want to go back to Sweden and raise their kids before they start middle school. Naslund was a mentor of the twins and he went back at 35. - dshiddy
Good points that aren't being considered |
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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 07.21.2009
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... Or your mom and that smokin' milf down the road - As_I_See_It
Which one. |
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