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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 9 @ 10:09 AM ET
If there is one thing I don't deny about the signing is he will fit in well with the hard nosed hockey the Leafs play and Randy's style. But at over 5 million for 7 years that's just sticky. I doubt the amount of success he will have in Toronto for a few reasons. He is tougher then Dion but he usually gets it handed to him when he fights and that dropped off significantly because he started to think he was a scorer. He isn't the greatest skater. He doesn't have good vision ( his 30 goals and 16 assist will attest to that) and He never put up points like that until the Devils hired is former jr coach Deboer so I am very interested in seeing how much the familiarity of Deboer played into his success as he has never been on pace for 30 or hit 30 goals with anyone else behind the bench.
- blizzzard


Points don't mean (frank) all..just get us to the playoffs and give us a chance. Leafs have a few scoring option I believe - Kessel/Bozak/Clarkson - Jvr/Kadri if the little puke signs/Lupul - Kuleman/Bolland/some other (frank)er
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Sep 9 @ 10:10 AM ET
Leaf talk, Oiler talk. Same thing day in day out.
- Marwood

After you guys stole our blogger I'll take any hockey talk
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Sep 9 @ 10:11 AM ET
Points don't mean (frank) all..just get us to the playoffs and give us a chance. Leafs have a few scoring option I believe - Kessel/Bozak/Clarkson - Jvr/Kadr if the little puke signs/Lupul - Kuleman/Bolland/some other (frank)er
- Garnie

I understand that but you could of kept Komarov for 7 years and 5+ million you just had to offer it to him
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 9 @ 10:11 AM ET
Blog overload. I can't keep up with these two.
- dshiddy


Y o u W a n t U s T o S l o w D o w n ?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 9 @ 10:12 AM ET
I understand that but you could of kept Komarov for 7 years and 5+ million you just had to offer it to him
- blizzzard


(frank) nobody could understand him and he didn't fight
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 9 @ 10:20 AM ET
After you guys stole our blogger I'll take any hockey talk
- blizzzard

Stole your blogger? Esplen has been blogging here for a couple of years now.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Sep 9 @ 10:20 AM ET
(frank) nobody could understand him and he didn't fight
- Garnie

But he knew how to piss other teams off and hit anything that moved. My main point was if that is all you are looking to get out of Clarkson you could of spent a hell of a lot less money doing so
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Sep 9 @ 10:21 AM ET
Stole your blogger? Esplen has been blogging here for a couple of years now.
- Marwood

Cordell he has written like 3 Nucks blogs since his last Devils one We are feeling forgotten
dshiddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canucks blogger in disguise., BC
Joined: 06.23.2008

Sep 9 @ 10:23 AM ET
Cordell he has written like 3 Nucks blogs since his last Devils one We are feeling forgotten
- blizzzard


Devils cheques kept bouncing, he had to move on.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 9 @ 10:27 AM ET
But he knew how to piss other teams off and hit anything that moved. My main point was if that is all you are looking to get out of Clarkson you could of spent a hell of a lot less money doing so
- blizzzard


no Clarkson is much better upgrade...every GM wanted a shot at him for a reason.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Sep 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
no Clarkson is much better upgrade...every GM wanted a shot at him for a reason.
- Garnie

He is better but forgets his role Kamarov doesnt forget his role
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Sep 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
Devils cheques kept bouncing, he had to move on.
- dshiddy

I thought we had finally cleared that up
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 9 @ 10:29 AM ET
Devils cheques kept bouncing, he had to move on.
- dshiddy

GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Sep 9 @ 10:37 AM ET
so career highs in goals, assists, points, +/-, hits, TOI and SH TOI....LOL

This guy is a 40 point 3rd liner at best, basically a slower Raymond who is more physical
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Sep 9 @ 10:39 AM ET
But he knew how to piss other teams off and hit anything that moved. My main point was if that is all you are looking to get out of Clarkson you could of spent a hell of a lot less money doing so
- blizzzard


we spent about 500k/season more on Clarkson then the Devils did on Clowe,
who has 20 goals over the last 2 seasons compared to Clarksons 45. Maybe the Devils should have kept Clarkson by spending a little more
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Sep 9 @ 10:40 AM ET
so career highs in goals, assists, points, +/-, hits, TOI and SH TOI....LOL

This guy is a 40 point 3rd liner at best, basically a slower Raymond who is more physical

- GardinerExpress

Worked well for Jason Blake didn't it
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Sep 9 @ 10:41 AM ET
we spent about 500k/season more on Clarkson then the Devils did on Clowe,
who has 20 goals over the last 2 seasons compared to Clarksons 45. Maybe the Devils should have kept Clarkson by spending a little more

- GardinerExpress

Clowe isn't keeping Kadri and Franson unsigned his he ? didn't think so
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 9 @ 10:41 AM ET
He is better but forgets his role Kamarov doesnt forget his role
- blizzzard


ok call Lou get him to sign Komorov 7 yr 7 mill he can take care of Kovalchuk's spot...
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Sep 9 @ 10:44 AM ET
ok call Lou get him to sign Komorov 7 yr 7 mill he can take care of Kovalchuk's spot...
- Garnie

We filled the Hole Clarkson left with Clowe
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 9 @ 10:50 AM ET
Cordell he has written like 3 Nucks blogs since his last Devils one We are feeling forgotten
- blizzzard

Meh. Another blogger from outside Vancouver.
dshiddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canucks blogger in disguise., BC
Joined: 06.23.2008

Sep 9 @ 10:51 AM ET
so career highs in goals, assists, points, +/-, hits, TOI and SH TOI....LOL

This guy is a 40 point 3rd liner at best, basically a slower Raymond who is more physical

- GardinerExpress



Now start the Raymond is so good posts.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 9 @ 10:51 AM ET
We filled the Hole Clarkson left with Clowe
- blizzzard


yes great signing..I'm sure he will score 30 FOREVER
dshiddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canucks blogger in disguise., BC
Joined: 06.23.2008

Sep 9 @ 10:52 AM ET
Darren Dreger just said Raymond helps the leafs up the middle.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 9 @ 10:53 AM ET
We filled my Hole with Clowe
- blizzzard


I hope that works out for ya
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Sep 9 @ 10:57 AM ET
I hope that works out for ya
- Garnie

I think it should if healthy he has proven to be the better player over his career. Both contracts are risks the reason the Clarkson one is worse for me is because you now have 2 really good young players sitting out waiting to be signed because you spent all you're cap on resigning Bozak and signing Clarkson. To me it is one thing to over pay for a player when you can but totally different when you now of two guys in Franson and Kadri waiting for anything to happen. Neither player is likely to live up to the contract given I think everyone knows that but the argument here is which contract is worse.
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