But the figures that you're looking at that makes you beleive that the Flyers are over the Cap, has Cap hits for 10 defenseman in the calculation. Not to mention 25 players, when the roster limit is 23.
- MJL

Are you inferring that Bill and I are stupid?

I now look forward to everyone killing Homer yesterday for a nonexistent deal to rescind their comments.
- Flyskippy

as Hexy snickers in the background

I'm sure the casual fan's traveling companion will up their enjoyment level thru instruction. I guess the question is how to up yours?
- Flyskippy

Way to bring the forum to a new level of discussion Skip! "How to best up yours"?

Are you inferring that Bill and I are stupid?
- mayorofangrytown

*enjoying every bit of this*

I would prefer a bigger player who could create space for Read and Couturier. Someone like Stalberg.
- Feanor

Or Weber. I'm sure he could play 3rd line Wing, right?

Way to bring the forum to a new level of discussion Skip! "How to best up yours"?
- FlyersGrace

Would you like a tutorial?

Why do you keep setting yourself up like this?

*enjoying every bit of this*
- youarewrong

Dangit stop poking the bear with the stick. And go make some popcorn!

Bruce Van Horn ‏@BruceVH 5m

Don't let yesterday take up too much of today. @MorningCoach

Would you like a tutorial?

Why do you keep setting yourself up like this?
- youarewrong

There is an art to laying a pit trap. It's inelegant but alas sometimes so is the prey.

Dangit stop poking the bear with the stick. And go make some popcorn!
- FlyersGrace

Which one is the bear and which one is the stick?

He still made the deal so your argument is invalid. The complainers will complain and now they can complain about how he couldn't get the deal signed even though they didn't want Cleary.

By the way, where's MIII playing this year? Same place? Is he a peewee?
- mayorofangrytown

M3 (me) is retired. M4 is a PeeWee this year. He's playing at the same place. We thought about moving but didnt have time to look with the arrival of his brother. We're hoping he blooms into a top pair d-man or we'll have to ask for a demotion.

There is an art to laying a pit trap. It's inelegant but alas sometimes so is the prey.
- FlyersGrace

Really? Come on. It's just right there......

Or Weber. I'm sure he could play 3rd line Wing, right?

- FlyersGrace

Zubrus would have been good on the third line, too. But I wouldn't have wanted to give him a 3 year deal at his age like NJ did.

1 year 1.75mm, wtf????
- flyerscup2011

Flyers offered 8.25 over 3 years. So Cleary took 6.5 million less to stay in Detroit.

WTF is right.

Would like to see other examples of this. Can't recall off the top of my head. Seems kind of unprecedented.

Using this premise, Gagne should agree for the Flyers to place a time clock in the building, where he punches in and out for 10 bucks an hour.

Flyers offered 8.25 over 3 years. So Cleary took 6.5 million less to stay in Detroit.

WTF is right.

Would like to see other examples of this. Can't recall off the top of my head. Seems kind of unprecedented.
- PLindbergh31

Maybe he's closer to retirement than was initially reported?
Yeah that's a lot of money to leave on the table to be "comfortable". Particularly cuz it's not like they are hands down favorites to win a cup.

Flyers offered 8.25 over 3 years. So Cleary took 6.5 million less to stay in Detroit.

WTF is right.

Would like to see other examples of this. Can't recall off the top of my head. Seems kind of unprecedented.

Using this premise, Gagne should agree for the Flyers to place a time clock in the building, where he punches in and out for 10 bucks an hour.
- PLindbergh31

Cliff Lee?

M3 (me) is retired. M4 is a PeeWee this year. He's playing at the same place. We thought about moving but didnt have time to look with the arrival of his brother. We're hoping he blooms into a top pair d-man or we'll have to ask for a demotion.
- Flyskippy

HAHAHA! Good for him. Get me a schedule and we'll try to get out again if that's okay.

Flyers offered 8.25 over 3 years. So Cleary took 6.5 million less to stay in Detroit.

WTF is right.

Would like to see other examples of this. Can't recall off the top of my head. Seems kind of unprecedented.

Using this premise, Gagne should agree for the Flyers to place a time clock in the building, where he punches in and out for 10 bucks an hour.
- PLindbergh31

I will repost what I put on Ek's latest info. on Cleary:

Flyer fans: be very glad the deal fell through for you. Cleary is not worth anything close to what he was asking.

Some Wings fans are still loyal to him and keep harping that Cleary put some points up in last year's playoff run. Yeah.. he did. But he has been crap the last three regular seasons. He is not a finisher. He's a 3rd / 4th liner at best. He has two bad knees.. (operations on both last year) and is almost 35 years old. Also, he is not nearly as effective as he was a few years ago... now days he tends to cough up the puck a lot more. I hope it's only a 1-year deal. The Wings need that roster spot for the talented young guys like Nyquist, Tatar, Anderssoon, etc.... This is yet another example of Holland letting his loyalty to older vets clouding his judgement.

I will repost what I put on Ek's latest info. on Cleary:

Flyer fans: be very glad the deal fell through for you. Cleary is not worth anything close to what he was asking.

Some Wings fans are still loyal to him and keep harping that Cleary put some points up in last year's playoff run. Yeah.. he did. But he has been crap the last three regular seasons. He is not a finisher. He's a 3rd / 4th liner at best. He has two bad knees.. (operations on both last year) and is almost 35 years old. I hope it's only a 1-year deal. The Wings need that roster spot for the talented young guys like Nyquist, Tatar, Anderssoon, etc.... This is yet another example of Holland letting his loyalty to older vets clouding his judgement.
- Vladdie_Kon1

I hear what you are saying. I'm not unhappy he didn't sign with the Flyers at the reported terms. 1 yr for 1.75 is a great deal for Detroit. Holland is nothing short of amazing.

Flyers offered 8.25 over 3 years. So Cleary took 6.5 million less to stay in Detroit.

WTF is right.

Would like to see other examples of this. Can't recall off the top of my head. Seems kind of unprecedented.

Using this premise, Gagne should agree for the Flyers to place a time clock in the building, where he punches in and out for 10 bucks an hour.
- PLindbergh31

I thought I read that the Wings offered 3 and 6mil before. He even took a cut off of their initial offer.

I thought I read that the Wings offered 3 and 6mil before. He even took a cut off of their initial offer.
- mayorofangrytown

The writing is on the wall.... Flyers/Wings playoff series, Cleary scores the series clinching goal. Lock.it.up

Or Weber. I'm sure he could play 3rd line Wing, right?

- FlyersGrace

I'd prefer him paired with Timonen.

I hear what you are saying. I'm not unhappy he didn't sign with the Flyers at the reported terms. 1 yr for 1.75 is a great deal for Detroit. Holland is nothing short of amazing.
- PLindbergh31

I don't know what the actual terms are for the deal... if it's only a 1-year deal then I won't be as upset. He may have one good playoff run left in him. I don't want ANY deal that is more than this season. Wings can waive Tootoo and even trade Emmerton to make space. But they cannot let somebody like Eaves leave. This signing may frustrate some of the Wings' young guns. The Wings have too much young talent that need ice time

The writing is on the wall.... Flyers/Wings playoff series, Cleary scores the series clinching goal. Lock.it.up
- PLindbergh31

Well, at least that means the Flyers made the playoffs. That'll make me happy.

The writing is on the wall.... Flyers/Wings playoff series, Cleary scores the series clinching goal. Lock.it.up
- PLindbergh31

More like Cleary's knees explode mid-stride in 7th OT of game 7, coughs puck up to Laughton who scores first-ever playoff goal, sending the Flyers to the Cup Finals where they face off against the Shea Weberified Nashville Predators.