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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Sep 17 @ 9:10 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Preseason Gameday: 9/17/13 vs. NYR PLUS Split-Squad Recap
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 17 @ 9:16 AM ET
Thanks for the updates Bill. I watched the Caps game off and on, saw none of the Toronto game.

Hope the Rangers dress a lot of regulars, would be a nice game to go to tonight.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 17 @ 9:16 AM ET
You could definitely see lots of good stuff in Morin's game. He definitely needs to go back to junior, etc, but most of the time when I noticed Morin, it was in a positive way.

tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Sep 17 @ 9:23 AM ET
The good news is the game is on the NHL Network tonight. Hope the blackout restrictions don't apply.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 17 @ 9:26 AM ET
The good news is the game is on the NHL Network tonight. Hope the blackout restrictions don't apply.
- tangent_man


I think the game is on CSN tonight too.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Sep 17 @ 9:28 AM ET
Bill,
How does raffl's game compare to a guy like nodl?

also, i've read that his name is actually pronounced more like rofle, so prepare for a lot of ROFL comments about him, i guess.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Sep 17 @ 9:29 AM ET
I think the game is on CSN tonight too.
- johndewar


Just checked - TCN. Nice.
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sep 17 @ 9:33 AM ET
Bill,
How does raffl's game compare to a guy like nodl?

also, i've read that his name is actually pronounced more like rofle, so prepare for a lot of ROFL comments about him, i guess.

- isaiah520


A little bit similar to Nödl in that he has decent size/good skating and two-way awareness. Hopefully he will convert more of his scoring chances than Nödl or Mika Pyörälä.

His last name pronunciation is closer to rhyming with "waffle" than being pronounced raffle (as in raffle ticket).
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 17 @ 9:37 AM ET
Just checked - TCN. Nice.
- tangent_man

aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Sep 17 @ 9:37 AM ET
You could definitely see lots of good stuff in Morin's game. He definitely needs to go back to junior, etc, but most of the time when I noticed Morin, it was in a positive way.
- johndewar


Morin played fairly well last night. I enjoyed how we wouldn't back down from anyone. I think that he needs to work on his release when shooting from the point. He takes a really long time to wind up and that is giving the other team time to get in front of the shot.
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Sep 17 @ 9:40 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Preseason Gameday: 9/17/13 vs. NYR PLUS Split-Squad Recap
- bmeltzer


Bill,
I couldn't help but notice when I was at the game last night that Simmonds has major issues turning the puck over in the neutral zone and with his passing. It seemed to be a big problem last year, and I realize it is only preseason, but do you see the same thing?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 17 @ 9:44 AM ET
Bill,
I couldn't help but notice when I was at the game last night that Simmonds has major issues turning the puck over in the neutral zone and with his passing. It seemed to be a big problem last year, and I realize it is only preseason, but do you see the same thing?

- aantny88


Wayne Simmonds had kind of a rough night all around, I thought.

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 17 @ 9:46 AM ET
Bill,
I couldn't help but notice when I was at the game last night that Simmonds has major issues turning the puck over in the neutral zone and with his passing. It seemed to be a big problem last year, and I realize it is only preseason, but do you see the same thing?

- aantny88


He also gets out of position in his own end quite a bit. He always seems to be running around making the effort. If he stayed disciplined, he wouldn't need to do so much skating.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Sep 17 @ 9:52 AM ET
aside from the goal, how did vinny look?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Sep 17 @ 9:52 AM ET
is there anyone else who would entertain the idea of moving Vinny to top line RW and Jake to the second line RW and Schenn to 2C?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 17 @ 9:54 AM ET
is there anyone else who would entertain the idea of moving Vinny to top line RW and Jake to the second line RW and Schenn to 2C?
- PhillySportsGuy


One of the team's problems last year was winning faceoffs. Vinny is expected to help in that regard, so I'd prefer him at C. I'd entertain the idea of moving Schenn up though.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Sep 17 @ 9:56 AM ET
A little bit similar to Nödl in that he has decent size/good skating and two-way awareness. Hopefully he will convert more of his scoring chances than Nödl or Mika Pyörälä.

His last name pronunciation is closer to rhyming with "waffle" than being pronounced raffle (as in raffle ticket).

- bmeltzer


Come on Bill. We all know that he will change how is name is pronounced about 4 times in his career.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 17 @ 9:57 AM ET
Come on Bill. We all know that he will change how is name is pronounced about 4 times in his career.
- youarewrong


Michael Raffle
Michael Raffel
Michel Rafl
Michael Roffle
Tony Amonte
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Sep 17 @ 9:58 AM ET
Wayne Simmonds had kind of a rough night all around, I thought.
- johndewar


Agreed. Not one of his better nights. He did have a near-goal on a nice feed by Raffl. Would have been a tap in if Simmonds were a left-handed shot.
Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Sep 17 @ 9:59 AM ET
aside from the goal, how did vinny look?
- hammarby31


Pretty good but mostly like a veteran just trying to get his game legs under him.

youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Sep 17 @ 10:00 AM ET
is there anyone else who would entertain the idea of moving Vinny to top line RW and Jake to the second line RW and Schenn to 2C?
- PhillySportsGuy


What I would consider is moving Akeson to top line LW. I know you guys are going to jump on this like stink on poop, but they played well together last season. Giroux has connections with Akeson, and Voracek just said how well he likes playing with him.

Akeson-Giroux-Voracek
Hartnell-Lecavalier-Read
Schenn-Couturier-Simmonds
Talbot-Hall-Rinaldo
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Sep 17 @ 10:02 AM ET
Come on Bill. We all know that he will change how is name is pronounced about 4 times in his career.
- youarewrong

Michael Raffln
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
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Sep 17 @ 10:03 AM ET
One of the team's problems last year was winning faceoffs. Vinny is expected to help in that regard, so I'd prefer him at C. I'd entertain the idea of moving Schenn up though.
- jmatchett383


Adam Hall will help with that too. The assumption is also that Couts and Schenn will get better. Faceoffs are something every young centerman struggles with. It usually takes a few years.

Giroux had his best season when playing with a veteran RW. I think Vinny playing the right side with a left handed sniping shot would score at least 30 goals playing with G.

Voracek would also provide great depth to the second line. He showed good chemistry with Schenn last season (before being bumped up to the top line).
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Sep 17 @ 10:05 AM ET
Michael Raffln
- BulliesPhan87


Yup, then 6 years later you find out there is a missing double "L" in his name.

Mikael Raffll.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
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Sep 17 @ 10:05 AM ET
What I would consider is moving Akeson to top line LW. I know you guys are going to jump on this like stink on poop, but they played well together last season. Giroux has connections with Akeson, and Voracek just said how well he likes playing with him.

Akeson-Giroux-Voracek
Hartnell-Lecavalier-Read
Schenn-Couturier-Simmonds
Talbot-Hall-Rinaldo

- youarewrong


I'd be a little nervous about playing Akeson that many minutes. Playing the top line means matching up against the best players on almost every shift.
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