That's because I didn't.

On a micro level, Lou technically was without fault, but his misstep was on the macro level, breaking the spirit of the CBA, and he had the book thrown at him.

Homer's had a history of getting the micro stuff wrong, and so far he hasn't suffered any severe consequences as a result... but from what we saw w/ Feaster, even a small technical oversight can lead to huge consequences.

My point is, I hope is that the Flyers learn to tread more carefully, paying greater attention to the details, so as to fully mitigate the possibility of a ROR type of scare. Somehow, that's been construed as a thorough damning of Homer's entire tenure as GM.
- Tomahawk

I agree. These are the things we know. How many decisions are being made due to bad information that we don't know about? It's a bit troubling.

They are off for a week.

Is there anything preventing him from going down to play this week with his jr club and then coming back to finish the preseason with the Flyers?

I honestly don't know, maybe that is what they are going to do.
- Marc D

Yeah, I don't know for sure either but I doubt once he's assigned to his junior club he can be recalled except for an emergency.

That's because I didn't.

On a micro level, Lou technically was without fault, but his misstep was on the macro level, breaking the spirit of the CBA, and he had the book thrown at him.
- Tomahawk

On the micro level, Lou made a huge mistake by not forfeiting the 1st round pick in 2012 when it was #29 overall. Now the Devils are facing the prospect of losing a lottery pick in the 2014 draft.

I don't think they got screwed. The last six years of the original Kovalchuk deal deserved to be punished.

2021-22: $750,000
2022-23: $550,000
2023-24: $550,000
2024-25: $550,000
2025-26: $550,000
2026-27: $550,000

Kovalchuk will be 44 years old on April 15, 2027 when the original contract would have ended.
- Feanor

They got screwed by having to forfeit picks.

On the micro level, Lou made a huge mistake by not forfeiting the 1st round pick in 2012 when it was #29 overall. Now the Devils are facing the prospect of losing a lottery pick in the 2014 draft.
- Feanor

That really was the dumb move. It reminds of Ohio State football not taking the bowl ban when their team went 6-6. Then, the following year they went 12-0 and would have played Notre Dame for a National Title but were banned from postseason play.

Any word on Rinaldo?
I haven't heard any injury updates.

They are off for a week.

Is there anything preventing him from going down to play this week with his jr club and then coming back to finish the preseason with the Flyers?
- Marc D

There's no room for him with Meszaros and Gustafsson fighting it out for the 6th spot.

Any word on Rinaldo?
I haven't heard any injury updates.
- FlyersGrace

It's the NHL, for gods sake they only think the body has two parts, why would they update you on an injury that doesn't require surgery.

They got screwed by having to forfeit picks.
- jmatchett383

I know, but I thought the NHL could have just told them to rework the deal and that those types of deals would not be allowed. That would have sufficed IMO.

Prongers contract hurts them.
- youarewrong

Yes it does, but only because of an unforeseeable injury. If Pronger were still healthy I have no doubt he would still be performing at a level worthy of the cap hit...which would be actually quite reasonable.

I know, but I thought the NHL could have just told them to rework the deal and that those types of deals would not be allowed. That would have sufficed IMO.
- PhillySportsGuy

I agree. Like I said, they got screwed. As a Flyers fan, I'm happy. But still, they got screwed.

So anyone else actually excited to see Vinny play? After watching him last night I'd be ok with him stepping onto G's wing occaisonally.

So anyone else actually excited to see Vinny play? After watching him last night I'd be ok with him stepping onto G's wing occaisonally.
- FlyersGrace

I haven't seen him yet so I'm in a bit of a holding pattern.

So anyone else actually excited to see Vinny play? After watching him last night I'd be ok with him stepping onto G's wing occaisonally.
- FlyersGrace

You best check your enthusiasm and positivity at the door, miss.

They got screwed by having to forfeit picks.
- jmatchett383

I believe it was a 1st rounder, a 3rd rounder, and a 3 Million dollar fine.

That 3 Million dollars is a ton to a franchise that doesn't have a lot of cash laying about.

Yes it does, but only because of an unforeseeable injury. If Pronger were still healthy I have no doubt he would still be performing at a level worthy of the cap hit...which would be actually quite reasonable.
- MBFlyerfan

The unforeseeable injury was actually probably the more graceful out under the terms of the contract... imagine a 'healthy' 40-43 year old Pronger, a shadow of his former self on the ice, a $4.9M pilon until the year 2017 with no way to 'replace' his salary... LTIR doesn't seem so bad compared to that.

Here's a philosophical question.... sure, once they had already parted with all those assets to trade for him, the Flyers were locked into having to extend him regardless of 35+ or not... but do they still make the trade if they know it's going to be a 35+ extension ahead of time? I'm not so sure that they do.

You best check your enthusiasm and positivity at the door, miss.
- jmatchett383

October 2nd cannot get here fast enough!

That's because I didn't.

On a micro level, Lou technically was without fault, but his misstep was on the macro level, breaking the spirit of the CBA, and he had the book thrown at him.

Homer's had a history of getting the micro stuff wrong, and so far he hasn't suffered any severe consequences as a result... but from what we saw w/ Feaster, even a small technical oversight can lead to huge consequences.

My point is, I hope is that the Flyers learn to tread more carefully, paying greater attention to the details, so as to fully mitigate the possibility of a ROR type of scare. Somehow, that's been construed as a thorough damning of Homer's entire tenure as GM.
- Tomahawk

I didn't think you were damning Homer's tenure as GM.

I was just trying to point out the CBA is not as cut and dried as you seem to think it is and you could probably point out a "Hyka Fiasco" with just about any GM if you looked hard enough.

I think we do agree that the team needs to be better at the mastery of those details.

The unforeseeable injury was actually probably the more graceful out under the terms of the contract... imagine a 'healthy' 40-43 year old Pronger, a shadow of his former self on the ice, a $4.9M pilon until the year 2017 with no way to 'replace' his salary... LTIR doesn't seem so bad compared to that.

Here's a philosophical question.... sure, once they had already parted with all those assets to trade for him, the Flyers were locked into having to extend him regardless of 35+ or not... but do they still make the trade if they know it's going to be a 35+ extension ahead of time? I'm not so sure that they do.
- Tomahawk

Do the Flyers get to the 2010 Finals without him?

Probably not.

I believe it was a 1st rounder, a 3rd rounder, and a 3 Million dollar fine.

That 3 Million dollars is a ton to a franchise that doesn't have a lot of cash laying about.
- johndewar

They should have thought about that before signing a player to a 17-year, $102 million contract where $95 million was due to be paid in the first 10 years.

The unforeseeable injury was actually probably the more graceful out under the terms of the contract... imagine a 'healthy' 40-43 year old Pronger, a shadow of his former self on the ice, a $4.9M pilon until the year 2017 with no way to 'replace' his salary... LTIR doesn't seem so bad compared to that.

Here's a philosophical question.... sure, once they had already parted with all those assets to trade for him, the Flyers were locked into having to extend him regardless of 35+ or not... but do they still make the trade if they know it's going to be a 35+ extension ahead of time? I'm not so sure that they do.
- Tomahawk

It was a "win now and deal with it later" move that came within 1 OT goal of paying off.

Morin sent back to juniors.
- wilsonecho91

timonen might as well request a trade to a team going for the Cup this year

I haven't seen him yet so I'm in a bit of a holding pattern.
- mayorofangrytown

Your avatar is creepy as (frank).

It was a "win now and deal with it later" move that came within 1 OT goal of paying off.
- jmatchett383

How do you figure that? Game 7 in Chicago would have been a walk in the park?

How do you figure that? Game 7 in Chicago would have been a walk in the park?
- PLindbergh31

Okay. 1 OT goal and 1 win. The closest they've come since 1987.