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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 27 @ 1:38 PM ET
Juice rarely disappoints when he chooses to throw down and he usually beats the opponents ass. He's not a big guy but pound for pound he's one tough SOB and really throws quick, effective punches.
- CanUSA17

He's a better fighter than he is a defenseman
rune_74
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.14.2007

Sep 27 @ 1:40 PM ET
Starting to wonder if Kassian is ready for the NHL.
- hillbillydeluxe


why exactly?
CanUSA17
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Schaumburg, IL
Joined: 10.11.2010

Sep 27 @ 1:42 PM ET
Starting to wonder if Kassian is ready for the NHL.
- hillbillydeluxe




I'm starting to wonder if he'll EVER be ready for the NHL. He seems like a meathead and a player who will never reach his full potential.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 27 @ 1:52 PM ET
You could offer hunter and edler and jets still say no .... Might think about it but no is the end
- Redmile247


Right. Good thing we have you here to clarify what teams will listen and/or accept.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 27 @ 1:53 PM ET
I'm starting to wonder if he'll EVER be ready for the NHL. He seems like a meathead and a player who will never reach his full potential.
- CanUSA17


Agreed, been saying this for some time. His IQ seems buried somewhere in his show laces.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 27 @ 1:56 PM ET
I'm starting to wonder if he'll EVER be ready for the NHL. He seems like a meathead and a player who will never reach his full potential.
- CanUSA17

He should be in the AHL gaining confidence. Came into the NHL too early; expectations shouldn't be that high yet. I still maintain it took a big man like Todd Bertuzzi six years from his draft year to really establish himself as a big power forward. It would be foolish to give up on Kassian at this stage of his career.
sdoney
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 11.03.2009

Sep 27 @ 2:02 PM ET
He should be in the AHL gaining confidence. Came into the NHL too early; expectations shouldn't be that high yet. I still maintain it took a big man like Todd Bertuzzi six years from his draft year to really establish himself as a big power forward. It would be foolish to give up on Kassian at this stage of his career.
- LeftCoaster


This everyone is so quick to call him a bust. Give him time to grow into his body.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Sep 27 @ 2:04 PM ET
Right. Good thing we have you here to clarify what teams will listen and/or accept.
- AlexF


Hey man with no Fosco on here you need someone to keep things level headed
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:05 PM ET
Mmmmmm, with a Phillips Crooked Tooth, or How Sound Pumpkin Ale
- 1970vintage

Might be a bit redundant but worth a try.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Sep 27 @ 2:15 PM ET
blog is a go.

if you haven't read it here it is

http://ianesplencanucks.w...look-ready-by-ian-esplen/
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:21 PM ET
blog is a go.

if you haven't read it here it is

http://ianesplencanucks.w...look-ready-by-ian-esplen/

- IanEsplen

Thanks Ian.


Ready, set, go-Canucks look ready-By Ian Esplen
by ianesplencanucks

Follow me on twitter @Ianesplen to keep up to date as to when I blog.

The panic on the streets of Vancouver is noticeably absent this morning after the city’s beloved Canucks laid a 5-0 beat down on the New York Rangers.

My highlights from the game:

Kevin Bieksa- He likely put a sock in all the trolls’ mouths that claim he doesn’t fight tough guys. Not only did he fight Derek Dorsett, he also beat the crap out of him. Along with that incident, I felt he played very good in all three zones and he was the No. 1 reason for Ryan Kesler’s goal. If he’s playing this hard in the preseason, I can’t wait to see how Juice plays when it matters.

Hunter Shinkaruk- He played another solid game and it’s really going to be a tough decision for Vancouver as to what they do with him. He scored another goal last night and from the looks of his entire preseason, he could rack up 40-50 points this year if he makes the team. Personally, I slot him in with Booth and Kesler while Kassian is out and see what happens.

Mike Santorelli- He played another real good game and is starting to look like he’ll be the steal of the UFA period. Five-hundred-and-fifty-thousand, for a guy who kills penalties, scores a bit and leaves everything on the ice? Yes please.

Frankie Corrado- If there is one player on this roster that has wowed me with his development over the past few seasons it’s Frankie Corrado. Another game, and another outing where he played like a 10-year veteran. If he keeps developing like this he may very well be Vancouver’s best defenceman next season. But all that said, he’s on his way to Utica to play 25-30 minutes a night.

The Sedins- Not much of a surprise, but the power-play looked pretty good last night with them on it. I’ll spare you the details because you likely know they’re pretty good.

Alian Vigneault- That’s the ‘ole coach we all know and love. The Rangers lose five-zip and he’s all smiles and talking about his team playing a great game. If losing by five is a great game, I feel for you Rangers fans. It’s going to be a long year in Manhattan.

Roberto Luongo- lastly, the big fella looks ready to go. I thought this could have been 5-2 or 5-3 games, but Luongo was great. Like I’ve said in the past, this is going to be a statement season for Roberto Luongo. And over his last two starts, that statement has been load and clear. In my opinion, the Vezina Trophy is not out of the question given his play will be better and the team defence will be as well.

Well that’s my thoughts on last night’s game.

Have a great day and buckle up…puckrant.com is coming December 1st! It will be the site that is above all sites!

Ian
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Sep 27 @ 2:21 PM ET
He should be in the AHL gaining confidence. Came into the NHL too early; expectations shouldn't be that high yet. I still maintain it took a big man like Todd Bertuzzi six years from his draft year to really establish himself as a big power forward. It would be foolish to give up on Kassian at this stage of his career.
- LeftCoaster


I don't disagree with sending him down to mature and develop. I don't think he has stood out any more than Shinkaruk and hasn't been standing out or putting forward effort and hustle that indicates it is only a matter of time before we see the results.

We have been pretty lucky with Corrado and Tanev showing poise beyond their years. I want to say defensemen take longer to contribute than forwards at the nhl level, but there seems to be exceptions all around. I want to see Booth get back to producing along the lines of his Florida best years. Getting tired of hearing "former" 31 goal scorer or whatever it is. Almost as bad a Raymond, former 25 goal scorer, feel like saying, where did that guy go? We want the former player, not the guy that looks like him and doesn't have the same impact anymore.

A trade was needed last year, and I guess we are waiting on one this year. It has to be difficult finding a trading partner. Gotta give up something to get something, and what we want to give up, guessing nobody really wants.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 27 @ 2:37 PM ET
blog is a go.

if you haven't read it here it is

http://ianesplencanucks.w...look-ready-by-ian-esplen/

- IanEsplen


If Shinkaruk gets 50 points this year he's going to make many GMs and team scouts look foolish. Saying that, Shinkaruk ain't going to get 50 points.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Sep 27 @ 2:42 PM ET
If Shinkaruk gets 50 points this year he's going to make many GMs and team scouts look foolish. Saying that, Shinkaruk ain't going to get 50 points.
- bloatedmosquito


even if he gets more than monahan, he's going to leave feaster and burke furious
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 27 @ 2:44 PM ET
If Shinkaruk gets 50 points this year he's going to make many GMs and team scouts look foolish. Saying that, Shinkaruk ain't going to get 50 points.
- bloatedmosquito

Not in the NHL he's not
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 27 @ 2:47 PM ET
He should be in the AHL gaining confidence. Came into the NHL too early; expectations shouldn't be that high yet. I still maintain it took a big man like Todd Bertuzzi six years from his draft year to really establish himself as a big power forward. It would be foolish to give up on Kassian at this stage of his career.
- LeftCoaster


Bertuzzi had something else about him (from what I recall). He was aloof but didn't strike me as intellectually challenged, which Kassian does. Also not every power forward develops the same. Big Bert was a particular player and not every forward who is built like him and has soft hands should be automatically compared to his development timeline.

I'm not calling Kassian a bust, but I certainly don't think he's ready for a top 6 role this season which many of us have him penned in for.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:48 PM ET
Bertuzzi had something else about him (from what I recall). He was aloof but didn't strike me as intellectually challenged, which Kassian does. Also not every power forward develops the same. Big Bert was a particular player and not every forward who is build like him and has soft hands should be automatically compared to his development timeline.

I'm not calling Kassian a bust, but I certainly don't think he's ready for a top 6 role this season which many of us have him penned in for.

- AlexF


Clearly you have never heard him speak. Just go back and watch the video message he sent Naslund on his jersey retirement night.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 27 @ 2:50 PM ET
Bertuzzi had something else about him (from what I recall). He was aloof but didn't strike me as intellectually challenged, which Kassian does. Also not every power forward develops the same. Big Bert was a particular player and not every forward who is built like him and has soft hands should be automatically compared to his development timeline.

I'm not calling Kassian a bust, but I certainly don't think he's ready for a top 6 role this season which many of us have him penned in for.

- AlexF

I used to be Jovo's gardener. One day Bertuzzi & Brashear came by to pick him up and I can tell you that the 3 of them have the collective IQ of a rock.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Sep 27 @ 2:50 PM ET
If Shinkaruk gets 50 points this year he's going to make many GMs and team scouts look foolish. Saying that, Shinkaruk ain't going to get 50 points.
- bloatedmosquito


Ian thinks hunter can get 50 points .... Based on what exactly ? I think he will be a good little player in a few years but his man crush on hunter is getting out of control
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 27 @ 2:51 PM ET
Clearly you have never heard him speak. Just go back and watch the video message he sent Naslund on his jersey retirement night.
- 1970vintage


His on on-ice IQ was what I meant. He's a smart player on the ice, clearly not a Rhodes Scholar off of it. I should have clarified
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Sep 27 @ 2:51 PM ET
Bertuzzi had something else about him (from what I recall). He was aloof but didn't strike me as intellectually challenged, which Kassian does. Also not every power forward develops the same. Big Bert was a particular player and not every forward who is built like him and has soft hands should be automatically compared to his development timeline.

I'm not calling Kassian a bust, but I certainly don't think he's ready for a top 6 role this season which many of us have him penned in for.

- AlexF


Actually thats the coaching staff that has done that for "us"...its a foregone conclusion hes slated as a top 6 player, whether he's actually ready for the role or not...seems like he's playing like an insane person under torts...this could definitely turn out badly for a lot of teams if that guy starts head hunting...hopefully he'll learn his lesson but it wasn't even his first time suspended...he's now got a rep for doing it...i like guys playing with edge but theres edge, and then theres matt cooke stupid, and he's getting dangerously close to doing that...so even if he's a top 6 who knows how many times he'll continue to get suspended
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Sep 27 @ 2:53 PM ET
Ian thinks hunter can get 50 points .... Based on what exactly ? I think he will be a good little player in a few years but his man crush on hunter is getting out of control
- Redmile247


if hunter was a calgary flame, his man crush would be justified though
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 27 @ 2:56 PM ET
Ian thinks hunter can get 50 points .... Based on what exactly ? I think he will be a good little player in a few years but his man crush on hunter is getting out of control
- Redmile247


So is your obsession with trolling this blog.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 27 @ 3:02 PM ET
Just a reminder from Fosco that the draft for the Canucks HB pool is this Sunday, for all those that can't make the draft please pre-rank your players.


Edit: Should be able to finish the blog I was writing after class today.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Sep 27 @ 3:02 PM ET
if hunter was a calgary flame, his man crush would be justified though
- annoyance_101


No ... I've watched some of the Canucks preseason games ... Hunter has skill but should not be in the nhl yet ... And 50 points lol .... Once he plays against nhl lineups and nhl calibre goaltending .... His size and strength will become evident . Let him develop properly and you should have a good player on your hands .... Don't let him become the next Gilbert Brule
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