And it will. The coach will probably be gone in the next 10 days. I will find it amusing when the next coach comes in and the results don't change much. Then everyone will be calling for the GM to be fired.
- PLindbergh31

I figured the decision would be made by Christmas, but if they start 0 - 5, I can't see them NOT firing the coach.

True story: NHL franchises make a lot money on gate receipts during the playoffs. Not making the playoffs is not an option, business plan wise, for this franchise.

i hear ya man. they're not nearly as "recklessly aggressive" as they've been in the past, and now they can't score. might just be that the way they choose to play only determines how they fall short, not whether they do

hopefully it's just adjustment issues, but consider me officially skeptical
- FlyerMike18

I want them to win.

If they have to fire the coach, fine. If they have to trade players, fine.

And if a new coach is brought in and a system change gets this group of players scoring goals, mark it down: I will be more than happy -- again, more than happy -- to come on this board and say that it was the coach and that the players have tuned him out.

But I don't think it's that. I think the players have played hard. They basically held Toronto to two goals (thought I acknowledge the late PPG, obviously) and Montreal added a late one as well. They only conceded two tonight, as well.

In other words, the defense hasn't been sexy, but it hasn't been the reason the team has lost.

I believe this team can't score because it simply isn't talented enough to do so. I think the NHL has subtly changed to even more speed and skill and hockey sense since 2010, and the Flyers haven't got the players for it.

Again, if I'm wrong, I'll say so. But I don't think I am.

fire Holmgren

THEY HAD THREE MOTHER(frank)ING SHOTS IN THE THIRD MOTHER(frank)ING PERIOD

He got canned from Carolina for lack of adjustment:

"It's about changing to get the chemistry back on our team, to get the confidence back on our team and make what I would say minor adjustments in a system that really worked in the Stanley Cup year. But teams have adjusted to it, and our team hasn't adjusted over the last couple of years." - Jim Rutherford
- Winning

Well, they don't fire coaches for making good adjustments

fire Holmgren
- wingz4life

I'm not ready to hit the panic button already. Lets see where they are at the end of the month.
- stveshdy

Far from panic. Pretty much non competitive against average to below average teams, on the heels of an awful pre-season.

THEY HAD THREE MOTHER(frank)ING SHOTS IN THE THIRD MOTHER(frank)ING PERIOD
- Jsaquella

Yep. *Nods sadly*

THEY HAD THREE MOTHER(frank)ING SHOTS IN THE THIRD MOTHER(frank)ING PERIOD
- Jsaquella

Hide the children!

THEY HAD THREE MOTHER(frank)ING SHOTS IN THE THIRD MOTHER(frank)ING PERIOD
- Jsaquella

So where is Claude Giroux greatest player in the world?

a coaching change is required, its the only way before the teams gets a bad attitude, this is an extension of last year. there is too much talent on this team to be scoring only 1 goal a game. no recommendations at this time of who i want as the replacement but i think it needs to be done asap.

Giroux was saying during the post game interview that they just have to stick to the plan. Hopefully the plan isn't playing uninspired lifeless 0-3 hockey.
I was hoping someone would ask him what the plan was.

He got canned from Carolina for lack of adjustment:

"It's about changing to get the chemistry back on our team, to get the confidence back on our team and make what I would say minor adjustments in a system that really worked in the Stanley Cup year. But teams have adjusted to it, and our team hasn't adjusted over the last couple of years." - Jim Rutherford
- Winning

There you go, Lava has a shelf expiry date and it read June/2012

I'm not ready to hit the panic button already. Lets see where they are at the end of the month.
- stveshdy

I hit it after the preseason. This team just flat out sucks. Sorry to be so negative, but they just aren't a team, aren't fun to watch and are an embarrassment. Otherwise things are great.

They can fire the coach, but there are so many more problems.

And it will. The coach will probably be gone in the next 10 days. I will find it amusing when the next coach comes in and the results don't change much. Then everyone will be calling for the GM to be fired.
- PLindbergh31

i seriously hope a coaching change will have a big impact. i also have serious doubts

That Rutherford quote is so damning.

The GM should be fired if they miss the playoffs. He had all summer to bring in a new coach that would have a full training camp to install a system, but he let Laviolette stay with entirely predictable results. 0-3, two years in a row.

fire Holmgren
- wingz4life

beat it, troll

beat it, troll
- FlyerMike18

? what did i say,troll.

i seriously hope a coaching change will have a big impact. i also have serious doubts
- FlyerMike18

I have my doubts but its a start.

At the end of the day the players play the game.

Giroux was saying during the post game interview that they just have to stick to the plan. Hopefully the plan isn't playing uninspired lifeless 0-3 hockey.
I was hoping someone would ask him what the plan was.
- bird_dog

Giroux is playing the part and being a good soldier with those answers.

trade Mike Richards and Jeff Carter

i seriously hope a coaching change will have a big impact. i also have serious doubts
- FlyerMike18

Not sure how the new coach is going to stop brain dead, stupid, undisciplined penalties. I guess he can start benching guys, that sounds great. They can have a bunch of minor leaguers in the lineup.

THEY HAD THREE MOTHER(frank)ING SHOTS IN THE THIRD MOTHER(frank)ING PERIOD
- Jsaquella

Exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying.

Anybody can backcheck. Not everybody can create offense and score goals.

i seriously hope a coaching change will have a big impact. i also have serious doubts
- FlyerMike18

Well, here's the thing.

You can't succeed doing the same thing, over and over again, and have it not succeed.

If the Flyers think they have good players, they can't think whatever Lavvy is doing is working with this collection of players. And, as well all know, it's easier to fire 1 man than it is to trade 20 some guys.