I hit it after the preseason. This team just flat out sucks. Sorry to be so negative, but they just aren't a team, aren't fun to watch and are an embarrassment. Otherwise things are great.

They can fire the coach, but there are so many more problems.
- LJF

There are, but changing the coach is only a first step. Bring in a guy who demands disciplined play, better attention to defense and hard work, and shed the players that fail to get motivated by him.

again, Mason had a .941 tonight
- JAKEw1234

Goaltending has been really good so far. Defense has been okay. The offense is sleep skating.

Giroux is playing the part and being a good soldier with those answers.
- johndewar

Lava needs to go, but there is something happening or not happening in that locker room.

I'm so pissed off right now. We have been waiting for how many months for some hockey and this is what we get, really. I liked the off season better at least there was hope at that point.

Far from panic. Pretty much non competitive against average to below average teams, on the heels of an awful pre-season.
- PLindbergh31

The offense has been invisible.

Cleary would of fixed all of this.

trade Mike Richards and Jeff Carter
- Winning

They did that already so they could fit Bryz in. Worked well. The dominoes from those moves have resulted in Cups for Carter and Richards, a Vezina for Bobrovsky, and Bryz tending goal in a casino parking lot, while he banks millions from Uncle Edzo.

? what did i say,troll.
- wingz4life

that, the leino comment. you're clearly just trying to stir up trouble man

that, the leino comment. you're clearly just trying to stir up trouble man
- FlyerMike18

whata r u talking about? the other flyers fan agreed with me.... about holmgren

Well, here's the thing.

You can't succeed doing the same thing, over and over again, and have it not succeed.

If the Flyers think they have good players, they can't think whatever Lavvy is doing is working with this collection of players. And, as well all know, it's easier to fire 1 man than it is to trade 20 some guys.
- johndewar

i'm not using that as an argument against firing him. i'm just saying i don't think that's gonna be enough

i'm not using that as an argument against firing him. i'm just saying i don't think that's gonna be enough
- FlyerMike18

You are probably right with that.

They may not have enough talent, but I'm pretty sure they are better than 1 goal per game.

whata r u talking about? the other flyers fan agreed with me.... about holmgren
- wingz4life

whatever man, i ain't gonna argue with you. have a blast

Lavi has cost is Richards and jvr can him

Lavi has cost is Richards and jvr can him
- 2Real

The GM is the one who traded them. Should he stay?

They did that already so they could fit Bryz in. Worked well. The dominoes from those moves have resulted in Cups for Carter and Richards, a Vezina for Bobrovsky, and Bryz tending goal in a casino parking lot, while he banks millions from Uncle Edzo.
- PLindbergh31

ty ed snider

Despite that first softie, I think Mason looked pretty solid tonight. Apart from him and Rinaldo I can't think of one positive thing to say about any part of this game. And you know you are bad when your only positives are a washed up goalie and Zac Rinaldo... No disrespect though, I like them both alot! :D

Really. I mean.. What.. Really!

whata r u talking about? the other flyers fan agreed with me.... about holmgren
- wingz4life

Shut the (frank) up you bumhole. You always try to stir the pot and then act like a wussy. Get the (frank) out of here and get a hobby you bumhole.

EDIT: Actually forget it. If I lived in that burnt out piece of poop state like Michigan, I'd be a douche too.

is ed snider the de facto GM and Holmgren is just a face? like does Snider have final say on all trades/signings or is Holmgren free to do what he wishes?

How is it that a message board full of half naked men can have more passion than an NHL team.

There are, but changing the coach is only a first step. Bring in a guy who demands disciplined play, better attention to defense and hard work, and shed the players that fail to get motivated by him.
- Jsaquella

rip the heavy C off of Giroux

He got canned from Carolina for lack of adjustment:

"It's about changing to get the chemistry back on our team, to get the confidence back on our team and make what I would say minor adjustments in a system that really worked in the Stanley Cup year. But teams have adjusted to it, and our team hasn't adjusted over the last couple of years." - Jim Rutherford
- Winning

We all knew Lava's system has a shelf life. I had hoped he learned from the past and adapted to making changes.

I was wrong. Don't get me wrong, lava's one of my favorites over the last 15 years.

is ed snider the de facto GM and Holmgren is just a face? like does Snider have final say on all trades/signings or is Holmgren free to do what he wishes?
- wingz4life

ed snider is jerry jones 2.0

Shut the (frank) up you bumhole. You always try to stir the pot and then act like a wussy. Get the (frank) out of here and get a hobby you bumhole.

EDIT: Actually forget it. If I lived in that burnt out piece of poop state like Michigan, I'd be a douche too.
- Flyers1218

woah buddy take a deep breath...

And it will. The coach will probably be gone in the next 10 days. I will find it amusing when the next coach comes in and the results don't change much. Then everyone will be calling for the GM to be fired.
- PLindbergh31

I won't find it amusing. I will be happy to see a new coach and GM.

I'm not ready to hit the panic button already. Lets see where they are at the end of the month.
- stveshdy

Eliminated from playoffs?

There is nothing more we need to see. This is the most blatant case of needing a change.

woah buddy take a deep breath...
- JAKEw1234

and he probably wont get TO for that.