Not exactly -- the teams only move guys with "red flags" -- questionable character, long-term losing, heading to free agency after years of carrying a franchise with no real success.

Right now, the Flyers should be able to call the Edmonton Oilers and say, "Edmonton? You are small down the middle, but have skill on the wings. We have Sean Couturier. Let's talk about Jordan Eberle or Nail Yakupov, come up with some type of package that helps us both."
- AllInForFlyers

Well, look...Flyers traded away two red flags and without them, LA wouldn't have won the cup let alone make the playoffs. They only took off after the Carter trade. A bad fit/bad situation on one team might be another team's tipping point. I don't discount the red flags, they're still elite players. I'd only discount them if they have a history of being traded because of their reputation.

Well, look...Flyers traded away two red flags and without them, LA wouldn't have won the cup let alone make the playoffs. They only took off after the Carter trade. A bad fit/bad situation on one team might be another team's tipping point. I don't discount the red flags, they're still elite players. I'd only discount them if they have a history of being traded because of their reputation.
- feelingkettle

And we absolutely agree on that -- that's where the risk tolerance comes in.

You can't be scared to take on Marian Gaborik or Rick Nash or Ilya Kovalchuk or Thomas Vanek, even if sometimes, it doesn't work the way you'd like.

Because that kind of elite talent...it just isn't easy to come by. In fact, it's really, really difficult.

We are absolutely in agreement on that.

yes
- feelingkettle

agree

The Flyers look more like a team thinking about playing hockey instead of just playing hockey.

Go Flyers... I have Vinny, Simmons and Voracek on my fantasy team

Go Flyers... I have Vinny, Simmons and Voracek on my fantasy team
- HabsRUs

well at least vinny has done something for you

Go Flyers... I have Vinny, Simmons and Voracek on my fantasy team
- HabsRUs

well at least vinny has done something for you

Lava does seem to be a problem, but what if G isn't that good of a C? There seems to be multiple problems.

Go Flyers... I have Vinny, Simmons and Voracek on my fantasy team
- HabsRUs

I have Hartnell and Read.

At least I took them late.

Go Flyers... I have Vinny, Simmons and Voracek on my fantasy team
- HabsRUs

ouch the only flyer i took this year was schenn on defense only cause he gets a lot of hits and blocks (secondary stats are very important in this league)

Lava does seem to be a problem, but what if G isn't that good of a C? There seems to be multiple problems.
- LJF

yea well i wasnt all that thrilled with the contract much to the dismay of others here...

Lava does seem to be a problem, but what if G isn't that good of a C? There seems to be multiple problems.
- LJF

same coach different players same issues richards got the same criticism

eagles sucking too

same coach different players same issues richards got the same criticism
- 2Real

Lava has to go, but is the locker room united?

If we keep playing like this we're not gonna have a 1st at our own draft.

If we keep playing like this we're not gonna have a 1st at our own draft.

Oh poop.

Lava has to go, but is the locker room unity?
- LJF

i'd say before any major player changes are made bring in a new coach then evaluate where we're at after the season unless someone really wants to overpay

If we keep playing like this we're not gonna have a 1st at our own draft.

Oh poop.
- hereticpride

you think homer will trade it? that'd be dumb

you think homer will trade it? that'd be dumb
- 2Real

They're not going to have the patience to groom anyone if this how the Flyers are currently playing.

They're not going to have the patience to groom anyone if this how the Flyers are currently playing.
- hereticpride

coach first though!

i'd say before any major player changes are made bring in a new coach then evaluate where we're at after the season unless someone really wants to overpay
- 2Real

Not saying trade G or anything, just throwing out there that Lava might not be the only problem.

you think homer will trade it? that'd be dumb
- 2Real

If they get the first pick, Homer won't be GM anymore.

I think flyersbuzz has finally jumped the shark.

Trade Giroux?

I think flyersbuzz has finally jumped the shark.

Trade Giroux?
- KGBflyers10

Don't see anyone saying trade G

Not saying trade G or anything, just throwing out there that Lava might not be the only problem.
- LJF

Even as one of the most ardent Fire Laviolette guys, I don't feel the coach is the only issue.

There are other issues, but I don't think they can be properly evaluated without a change in coach or strategy