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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
As far as I can find, there is no rule that prevents an active or injured player from serving as an assistant or even head coach.
- Jsaquella

i don't think pronger can handle the rigors of travel
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
yeah, i think sometime between 79-82. forget who/when though. might have been why clarke gave up the C to bridgeman?
- hammarby31


That's it. Bridgman was captain while Clarkie was asst coach
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
Man, you don't have to convince me -- I wouldn't dress a guy who couldn't skate a regular shift for 10 minutes a night and score 6-10 goals.

If he can fight, fine. But if all you can do is hit and fight and agitate, the AHL's a good place for you until you can actually put the puck in the net.

- AllInForFlyers



Yeah, people marvel at how Rinaldo can rack up the hits numbers that he does... it's because that fourth line is a possession black hole... they almost never have the puck... especially on the road when MTL is sneaking the Plekanec line out against them and CAR is sneaking the Staal lines out there... what are you going to do but hit?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
Hits can separate a player from the puck tho. and blocked shots have value. Winning hockey is not just about those things. they are just aspects of the game.
- nastyflyergirl


Yeah, but what good does it do to separate a guy from the puck when if you shoot it, it's going to catch glass, and if you pass it, it's either behind the guy, in his skates, or two feet in front of him -- everywhere but on the tape?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
i don't think pronger can handle the rigors of travel
- isaiah520


That's my biggest concern over it.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
Hits can separate a player from the puck tho. and blocked shots have value. Winning hockey is not just about those things. they are just aspects of the game.
- nastyflyergirl


Not saying that hitting and blocked shots are bad, just saying that being good at those things does not correlate to winning as well as puck possession.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
Atta boy Homer
- Giroux_Is_God


I hope the announcement is replacing Homer too.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 7 @ 10:26 AM ET
Fake Tim Panaccio @faketpanotch
Press conf scuttlebutt: I'm told Kimmo will be in charge of ceremoniously ripping the gum from Lavvy's mouth one last time.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:27 AM ET
Two of the top teams in the League last year, Boston and LA were in the top 10 in the League in total hits. Need to come to grips with the fact that being a good physical and shot blocking team, contributes to winning.
- MJL


They were also the best at puck possession. Not top-10. The best.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:27 AM ET
Whelp, Flyers can't be blamed for failing to take action, that's for sure.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Oct 7 @ 10:27 AM ET
Fake Tim Panaccio @faketpanotch
Press conf scuttlebutt: I'm told Kimmo will be in charge of ceremoniously ripping the gum from Lavvy's mouth one last time.

- BulliesPhan87


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:27 AM ET
Yeah, people marvel at how Rinaldo can rack up the hits numbers that he does... it's because that fourth line is a possession black hole... they almost never have the puck... especially on the road when MTL is sneaking the Plekanec line out against them and CAR is sneaking the Staal lines out there... what are you going to do but hit?
- Tomahawk



That dismisses Rinaldo's obvious physical ability, and seems to state that his hitting game is simply because he's on the 4th line.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 7 @ 10:27 AM ET
Yeah, people marvel at how Rinaldo can rack up the hits numbers that he does... it's because that fourth line is a possession black hole... they almost never have the puck... especially on the road when MTL is sneaking the Plekanec line out against them and CAR is sneaking the Staal lines out there... what are you going to do but hit?
- Tomahawk


DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 7 @ 10:27 AM ET
Fake Tim Panaccio @faketpanotch
Press conf scuttlebutt: I'm told Kimmo will be in charge of ceremoniously ripping the gum from Lavvy's mouth one last time.

- BulliesPhan87

youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Oct 7 @ 10:27 AM ET
So what does everyone think about Rinaldo playing on the 3rd line. I really like the kid. He might not be the most skilled offensively, but I think if you keep him off the 4th line, he could pot 15 goals and a bunch of assists. His skating is pheonomal. Right now when he has the puck he is dropping it into scoring areas, but no-one is there. Give him time to get chemistry and I think they will start going in.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
Anyone here have a clue as to what philosphy Berube has from a systems point of view?

I seriously hope its not the "we have to work harder" nonsense while still trying to fit the same squares into round holes.

I am not encouraged. I would rather have seen the entire staff gone and everything change.

Hockey systems are not rocket science.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
Laviolette changed a number of things system wise from last year to this year.
- MJL

I'll defer to you on this...it just looked exactly the same and that would be on the plyrs.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
Yeah, people marvel at how Rinaldo can rack up the hits numbers that he does... it's because that fourth line is a possession black hole... they almost never have the puck... especially on the road when MTL is sneaking the Plekanec line out against them and CAR is sneaking the Staal lines out there... what are you going to do but hit?
- Tomahawk


The 4th line should be more of a possession, cycle it down low type of line IMO. Hits are fine but get the puck down low keep it simple.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
That's my biggest concern over it.
- Jsaquella



Like the scouting thing, I'm sure any coaching he's tasked with will be limited in nature and 'unofficial' for legal reasons.
mcefalu
Location: I never back-read, IL
Joined: 07.11.2008

Oct 7 @ 10:28 AM ET
That's my biggest concern over it.
- Jsaquella


He would have to stay in the press box, I would imagine. And even then I don't think he could handle a full season
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 7 @ 10:29 AM ET
Laughton has more points in 3 games than the entire Flyers team.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:29 AM ET
Anyone here have a clue as to what philosphy Berube has from a systems point of view?

I seriously hope its not the "we have to work harder" nonsense while still trying to fit the same squares into round holes.

I am not encouraged. I would rather have seen the entire staff gone and everything change.

Hockey systems are not rocket science.

- MBFlyerfan


I'll be happy if Berube can spell "system", to be honest.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 7 @ 10:29 AM ET
So what does everyone think about Rinaldo playing on the 3rd line. I really like the kid. He might not be the most skilled offensively, but I think if you keep him off the 4th line, he could pot 15 goals and a bunch of assists. His skating is pheonomal. Right now when he has the puck he is dropping it into scoring areas, but no-one is there. Give him time to get chemistry and I think they will start going in.
- youarewrong

He generated a few good chances as well.. I liked that line a lot.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 7 @ 10:29 AM ET
I'll be happy if Berube can spell "system", to be honest.
- bradleyc4

His PP squad has been pretty darn good.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Oct 7 @ 10:30 AM ET
Like the scouting thing, I'm sure any coaching he's tasked with will be limited in nature and 'unofficial' for legal reasons.
- Tomahawk


That'd be fine. I'd be in favor of anything that has him around the team.
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