wasn't Berube in the mix for the Caps job?

The goaltending hasn't been any better than the rest of the team either.
- mayorofangrytown

The fan 590 guys chided the tenders as being just backups, but to be fair, they have not been the issue so far. Yes, Mason should have had the first goal, but dear God, we still would not have scored enough to win. Scoring was supposed to be the strong suit for this team.

I bashed my head into a shelf last week when Dreger said it.
- mayorofangrytown

Just watched the Flyers press conference.

Question: does the Flyers management put any thought into anything they do? Is every move just based on a "gut feeling"?
- Dkos

meh, I didn't expect him to say more. I honestly feel as tho there is more involved here. I know some of the players greatly dislike Lavy, not that disliking the coach should result in a coach losing his job (see Tocchett/Billy Barber). They aren't going to be honest with stuff that is going on internally

Berube saying on 590 that the Flyers are not currently playing like team on the ice. He said they need to play better team defense and that's the first thing to change in his mind.

He also they need to skate harder, move the puck quicker. (obvious stuff)

He said they haven't shown a lot of passion since training camp.

He defended his goalies when the guys on the Fan said that goaltending was at fault..
- mikel33

and how is that even possible


giroux's postgame last night certainly left me wanting.

Just watched the Flyers press conference.

Question: does the Flyers management put any thought into anything they do? Is every move just based on a "gut feeling"?
- Dkos

Forethought and the Flyers do not seem to work together

That's valid, but teams have done much better with far less than what this Flyers team has. I think they have the personnel to make the playoffs. The effort hasn't been there.
- mcefalu

Again, where does the effort come from though? From within each individual player...for christ's sake these are professional athletes, not high school kids. A Herb Brooks pre game against the Soviets speech shouldn't be necessary for them to put their big boy pants on and play like they give a damn!

Should have named Dave Brown and Dave Schultz assistant coaches. Replace Holmgren with Brashear.

Clone Rosehill 11 times! Boom!
- PLindbergh31

i'd watch that.

Berube on hockey central. Kypreos asks if the team is tough enough.. Berube says what do you mean? This isn't the 80's anymore and the team is tough enough. Saying they have not been passionate enough and that they didn't have a good camp. Team needs to play with more speed and intensity with a better breakout. Says the players all care a lot but are incredibly frustrated right now. Says he has a good relationship with Lappy and Paddock. Berube was well spoken overall. Frank about stuff. Kypreos sai the thing going against him now is that most people think it's the same old culture of promoting from within which the press mentioned at the conference.
- Hextall271

Then what the hell were they doing, like, you know.. IN TRAINING CAMP?!?!?

I am baffled by that -- they haven't given up much defensively, even with the limitations in speed. If someone wants to take me behind the woodshed and say that Montreal sliced them to pieces, fine, but there were multiple PPs in that game.

It's the offense! They can't score! How many games does he think they're going to win if they continue to score a goal a night!
- AllInForFlyers

you've been very right, and if you could somehow lift this curse i'd be appreciative ty

I bashed my head into a shelf last week when Dreger said it.
- mayorofangrytown

Why? Even after you were told by a poster that there was nothing to the Berube scuttlebutt?

wasn't Berube in the mix for the Caps job?
- wilsonecho91

Yup, he sure was

Then what the hell were they doing, like, you know.. IN TRAINING CAMP?!?!?
- AllInForFlyers

I was worried about that too. Not a good camp? WTF? Seems to me everyone was going through the motions. Players prob knew he was a lame duck coach, so just coasted or something... facking idiots.

i'd watch that.
- hammarby31

imagine 11 steve downies

The fan 590 guys chided the tenders as being just backups, but to be fair, they have not been the issue so far. Yes, Mason should have had the first goal, but dear God, we still would not have scored enough to win. Scoring was supposed to be the strong suit for this team.
- Hextall271

And that 1st goal was 1 of 17 shots in the 1st...did the Flyers even get 17 shots the whole game?

Then what the hell were they doing, like, you know.. IN TRAINING CAMP?!?!?
- AllInForFlyers

Playing with a bunch of players they knew they were never going to play with. Having over 60 players was the most idiotic decision I have ever seen by management.

you've been very right, and if you could somehow lift this curse i'd be appreciative ty
- -davies-

Man, I could if I would, but I think we need at least two players who are not currently on this roster and might just not be in the organization.

meh, I didn't expect him to say more. I honestly feel as tho there is more involved here. I know some of the players greatly dislike Lavy, not that disliking the coach should result in a coach losing his job (see Tocchett/Billy Barber). They aren't going to be honest with stuff that is going on internally
- nastyflyergirl

Lavy gave Homer bad investment advice?

I suggested it days before Dreger... do I get my cookie now?
- Tomahawk

I only give out cookies to good suggesters.

Then what the hell were they doing, like, you know.. IN TRAINING CAMP?!?!?
- AllInForFlyers

I wouldn't take the delivery of cliches too literally... yeah, it's true, but I feel like those things are said in place of divulging specific X&O's and/or which players in the room need a kick in the pants/change of address.

Again, where does the effort come from though? From within each individual player...for christ's sake these are professional athletes, not high school kids. A Herb Brooks pre game against the Soviets speech shouldn't be necessary for them to put their big boy pants on and play like they give a damn!
- aantny88

i don't get it how is that every other team in the league doesn't have effort issues like the flyers

Yes, Mason should have had the first goal,
- Hextall271[/QUOTE]

I could've stopped that one.

but dear God, we still would not have scored enough to win. Scoring was supposed to be the strong suit for this team.

What, an 82 goal pace isn't good?

wasn't Berube in the mix for the Caps job?
- wilsonecho91

Yes, it ultimately went to Oates.

And that 1st goal was 1 of 17 shots in the 1st...did the Flyers even get 17 shots the whole game?
- wolfhounds

That's what I am saying. The tending has been good enough to win if there are some goals.

Again, where does the effort come from though? From within each individual player...for christ's sake these are professional athletes, not high school kids. A Herb Brooks pre game against the Soviets speech shouldn't be necessary for them to put their big boy pants on and play like they give a damn!
- aantny88

I hear ya. It shouldn't look like a chore for these guys to get a little passionate on the ice. I guess the hits have been there, but there's also a lack of focus. Guys who usually handle the puck well making glaringly poor passing attempts to no one. Would be great if Berube can snap them out of it.