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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 7 @ 9:58 AM ET
I am not really encouraged by the Berube hiring. I won't trash it immediately, because he may well turn out to be a very capable head coach.

The lack of head coaching experience worries me. He was head coach of the Phantoms for about three weeks, when he got brought up to the Flyers after the Hitchcock firing.

- Jsaquella


let me put your mind at ease. FS says the players love the chief and will go through a wall for him.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 7 @ 9:58 AM ET
What a poop show. Go through an entire off-season and training camp and poop can the coach 3 games into the season. So instead of having an assortment of qualified coaches to hire, Craig (frank)ing Berube is now the head coach of the Flyers.

Absolute (frank)ing mess. Ineptitude at an all time high.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 7 @ 9:58 AM ET
I agree, What does he know about systems and in game adjustments etc? Especially if he has been learning under Lavy? What will he really change on this team? A little more Rah Rah? Team needs more then that at this moment
- Buzzo


Man, you're about to make a grown man cry.
goirish
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.08.2010

Oct 7 @ 9:58 AM ET
Flyers fire Laviolette
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Oct 7 @ 9:59 AM ET
Now the team has to learn a new system on the Fly... spectacular
- Pyzik



i really think they should have given the reigns over to murray. I think berube might be a filler for a couple of games till they make a decision....This rash move has sniders fingerprints all over it.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 7 @ 9:59 AM ET
Now the team has to learn a new system on the Fly... spectacular
- Pyzik


Its not like there are all these complicated systems flying around the hockey world.


Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Oct 7 @ 10:00 AM ET
Hockey Buzz Eklund @Eklund
Told decision came from way up.

- BulliesPhan87


the Lord has that much power I tell ya
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:00 AM ET
let me put your mind at ease. FS says the players love the chief and will go through a wall for him.
- hammarby31


Problem solved. *phew*
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 7 @ 10:00 AM ET
i really think they should have given the reigns over to murray. I think berube might be a filler for a couple of games till they make a decision....This rash move has sniders fingerprints all over it.
- PhillaBully


That's my hope. I'm not going to write off Berube without seeing him coach one game, but if he's going to keep Lavi's system the results won't be any better. I'd prefer Berube and Murray to swap roles for the season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:00 AM ET
Can only blame execution for so long. Teams adapted to the system. We didn't adapt to their changes.
- Flyersgod



None of the systems that are used by any team is anything new. The Flyers didn't execute well. And made a lot of individual mistakes. Those things can be cleaned up. My point was simply this. I feel that Laviolette made adjustments needed in systems play coming into the Season. He deserves credit for that. They obviously weren't sharp yet in executing new breakout schemes, as evidenced by the Schenn turnover leading to a goal last night.

In my opinion, what got Laviolette fired, was the team's lack of heart, work ethic, and competitiveness, that is evident in the last 2 games. To a disturbing level. Why that is, I can't explain. Espeically 3 games into a new Season. No excuse for it from the players. Maybe they tuned him out, I don't know. I can't explain it.
matman31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: In Cognito
Joined: 12.14.2005

Oct 7 @ 10:00 AM ET
This isn't really happening to us, right? I mean, this poop happens to poorly run teams that never win and have no fan base. What has happened to my hockey team????
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 7 @ 10:00 AM ET
Now the team has to learn a new system on the Fly... spectacular
- Pyzik

I prefer that to playing within the same old system.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 7 @ 10:01 AM ET
Problem solved. *phew*
- tangent_man


I'm sure Mike Babcock is going to cry himself to sleep tonight!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:01 AM ET
That's my hope. I'm not going to write off Berube without seeing him coach one game, but if he's going to keep Lavi's system the results won't be any better.
- Feanor



The results could certainly be better if this team comes out and matches the work ethic and compete level of the opposition.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 7 @ 10:01 AM ET
That's my hope. I'm not going to write off Berube without seeing him coach one game, but if he's going to keep Lavi's system the results won't be any better.
- Feanor


I'm not going to just write him off either, but unless they have an amazing turn around, I would expect a new coach in the offseason.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 7 @ 10:01 AM ET
Its not like there are all these complicated systems flying around the hockey world.
- MBFlyerfan


This isn't football where players are required to learn a playbook as thick as a phone book.

The players will be fine. Berube, if he's smart, will simplify things enough to keep them competitive.

At least, I hope that's what Berube does in order to keep Holmgren from making a panic trade where he dumps Brayden Schenn for Matt Ellison 2.0.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Oct 7 @ 10:02 AM ET
None of the systems that are used by any team is anything new. The Flyers didn't execute well. And made a lot of individual mistakes. Those things can be cleaned up. My point was simply this. I feel that Laviolette made adjustments needed in systems play coming into the Season. He deserves credit for that. They obviously weren't sharp yet in executing new breakout schemes, as evidenced by the Schenn turnover leading to a goal last night.

In my opinion, what got Laviolette fired, was the team's lack of heart, work ethic, and competitiveness, that is evident in the last 2 games. To a disturbing level. Why that is, I can't explain. Espeically 3 games into a new Season. No excuse for it from the players. Maybe they tuned him out, I don't know. I can't explain it.

- MJL

The only thing I can think of is that they had quit on him. I hate to think that happened, but what I saw to start this season was equally disturbing.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 7 @ 10:02 AM ET
Maybe they're hoping that if the lackadaisical play continues, Berube will grab one of the culprits and beat some heart into him?!?!
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 7 @ 10:03 AM ET
If only I had waited two minutes I could have saved some typing. Wow! Three games! That's it! Maybe Berube is a great coach but it just seems more of the same from this team. Maybe the next coach could be Dave Poulin or Tim Kerr or Rob Zettler or Jiri Dopita or Kevin Haller or Brent Fedyk or Pelle Eklund or Andy Delmore or insert random former Flyer's name
- mickel25


Or Paul Coffey or Robert Esche or Valeri Zelepukin or Donald Brashear or Radovan Somik or Tommy Soderstrom or Kjell Samuelsson or Derian Hatcher or Eric Desjardins or Billy Tibbetts
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:03 AM ET
Maybe they're hoping that if the lackadaisical play continues, Berube will grab one of the culprits and beat some heart into him?!?!
- BiggE


Now that's accountability.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 7 @ 10:03 AM ET
let me put your mind at ease. FS says the players love the chief and will go through a wall for him.
- hammarby31


I'm just glad that we got a head coach who will match up well with Patrick Roy in the rage department.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 7 @ 10:03 AM ET
This isn't football where players are required to learn a playbook as thick as a phone book.

The players will be fine. Berube, if he's smart, will simplify things enough to keep them competitive.

At least, I hope that's what Berube does in order to keep Holmgren from making a panic trade where he dumps Brayden Schenn for Matt Ellison 2.0.

- johndewar


I don't think the Flyers will be an a position to trade young players for veterans if they continue to struggle.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 10:03 AM ET
What a poop show. Go through an entire off-season and training camp and poop can the coach 3 games into the season. So instead of having an assortment of qualified coaches to hire, Craig (frank)ing Berube is now the head coach of the Flyers.

Absolute (frank)ing mess. Ineptitude at an all time high.

- PLindbergh31



And you state this, without having any clue of how good of a head coach Berube is going to be.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 7 @ 10:03 AM ET
Waiting until now to fire Laviolette was a big waste of time. Anyways, even after all of this I'm sad to see him go, I really enjoyed his intensity.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Oct 7 @ 10:03 AM ET
Maybe they're hoping that if the lackadaisical play continues, Berube will grab one of the culprits and beat some heart into him?!?!
- BiggE


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