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Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Oct 7 @ 8:20 PM ET
No. Just saying he's been here through out it all. 3 different coaches? 2? Something like that.

Just pointing it out. I love Timonen. Just bought myself a autographed 16x20 for my man cave.

- Flyersgod


So has Berube. Maybe he's to blame?
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Oct 7 @ 8:21 PM ET
Playing better defensively, which means shortening gaps and have all 5 skaters commit to defense will lead to crisper breakouts. Crisp breakouts and smarter decisions with puck when entering the offensive zone will lead to more even strength scoring. Can they use another sniper? Sure, but there is enough firepower on this roster to score goals and be a good team. In my opinion, a greater team commitment to D will lead to more scoring.
- BiggE


Its not a system thing. Its a player thing. No matter what system the flyers use, they will look exactly the same because the players aren't executing. Systems have no meaning on a hockey game. Actually, the Devils are famous for not having a system at all. They just go out and skate around like its a practice.

/sarcasim
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Oct 7 @ 8:21 PM ET
So has Berube. Maybe he's to blame?
- Dkos


I wonder who else... Homer?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Oct 7 @ 8:22 PM ET
I think that's plain to see. I have no worries he will be gone if they miss it again.
- Just5

I think that's a conservative estimate, it could be a lot sooner if this team is on pace to miss the dance after a couple months. I'm not detecting any patience at the top, especially when the replacement is already on hand.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 7 @ 8:22 PM ET
Needless to say I cant wait for the game tommorow
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Oct 7 @ 8:22 PM ET
I wonder who else... Homer?
- Flyersgod

Hmmm. You might be onto something there
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Oct 7 @ 8:26 PM ET
Needless to say I cant wait for the game tommorow
- Just5


it's certainly a spark that I've been waiting for. Haven't felt all that excited and now I am. Of course, it has the very real possibility of being another disappointment. But for now, I'll choose to look on the bright side.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 7 @ 8:27 PM ET
He's still here because he's made some good moves as well. He took over a roster that was in complete shambles, and made it competitive very quickly. That gives him some currency.

That said, two straight years out of the playoffs in this market, and that's about it.

- PLindbergh31


Do you think Coach Coughlin is going to meet the same fate? He got beat by a college coach with a mutant dog killing Napolean dynamite monster at the helm
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Oct 7 @ 8:34 PM ET
not sure how this will work out, but I love Berube's "5 guys to a zone" statement.

eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Oct 7 @ 8:35 PM ET
Coaches continually get this label as 'offensive' or 'defensive' coaches. I just want one labeled as 'puts his players in the best possible position to succeed'. No preconceived notions
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Oct 7 @ 8:36 PM ET
not sure how this will work out, but I love Berube's "5 guys to a zone" statement.


- FlyerGuy


I missed that, 5 guys in the D zone?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 7 @ 8:40 PM ET
I missed that, 5 guys in the D zone?
- puckhead17


With this D that may be the slowest transition ever
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 7 @ 8:40 PM ET
Do you think Coach Coughlin is going to meet the same fate? He got beat by a college coach with a mutant dog killing Napolean dynamite monster at the helm
- Just5


Coughlin has won two Super Bowls, so it's apples and oranges. He's also been the coach of the Giants for 10 years, and is 67 years of age. He has run his course. He won't be back next year.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Oct 7 @ 8:42 PM ET
With this D that may be the slowest transition ever
- flyer_nutter


and that is without Hal Gill
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 7 @ 8:46 PM ET
Coughlin has won two Super Bowls, so it's apples and oranges. He's also been the coach of the Giants for 10 years, and is 67 years of age. He has run his course. He won't be back next year.
- PLindbergh31


You know it's bad when your beaten by a college coach with a gimmicky offense and no defense
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Oct 7 @ 8:47 PM ET
You know it's bad when your beaten by a college coach with a gimmicky offense and no defense
- Just5


don't forget the dog killa
walshy66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @walshy66 www.hockeyhurts.com
Joined: 03.21.2008

Oct 7 @ 8:47 PM ET
Im 22 and have noticed (even if its very slight), some minor signs of future hair loss
- flyer_nutter



Hell I have epilepsy, if I was a flyers fan, I'd be having seizures all the time!
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Oct 7 @ 8:48 PM ET
Hell I have epilepsy, if I was a flyers fan, I'd be having seizures all the time!
- walshy66



jesus, a Pens fan appears

what next?
walshy66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @walshy66 www.hockeyhurts.com
Joined: 03.21.2008

Oct 7 @ 8:52 PM ET
Should a coach be able to craft a system to suit the players he's given or should a GM give a coach players that fit into the system they are most comfortable teaching/employing?
- eayost



Depends on what order those two tasks are done. When you clean house the GM has the option to set a coach and build to the coach's strengths. Or you fire a coach, keep the roster and find the right coach for that roster, or you put a square peg in a round hole and watch it fall apart.

What do you think will happen now?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 7 @ 8:52 PM ET
Hell I have epilepsy, if I was a flyers fan, I'd be having seizures all the time!
- walshy66



MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 7 @ 8:54 PM ET
Depends on what order those two tasks are done. When you clean house the GM has the option to set a coach and build to the coach's strengths. Or you fire a coach, keep the roster and find the right coach for that roster, or you put a square peg in a round hole and watch it fall apart.

What do you think will happen now?

- walshy66


Berube's "chief" goal should be to implement a system or systems that play to the teams strengths, something I don't think Lavi has done over the past two seasons.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Oct 7 @ 8:56 PM ET
Depends on what order those two tasks are done. When you clean house the GM has the option to set a coach and build to the coach's strengths. Or you fire a coach, keep the roster and find the right coach for that roster, or you put a square peg in a round hole and watch it fall apart.

What do you think will happen now?

- walshy66

You find a good coach who's able to adjust his system to the players he's given.
walshy66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @walshy66 www.hockeyhurts.com
Joined: 03.21.2008

Oct 7 @ 8:56 PM ET
Berube's "chief" goal should be to implement a system or systems that play to the teams strengths, something I don't think Lavi has done over the past two seasons.
- MBFlyerfan



So what are those strengths that were under utilised?

How would they be used better? Didn't watch a lot of preseason Flyers games and have missed the 3 so far.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Oct 7 @ 8:57 PM ET
so what's new guys?
walshy66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @walshy66 www.hockeyhurts.com
Joined: 03.21.2008

Oct 7 @ 8:57 PM ET
You find a good coach who's able to adjust his system to the players he's given.
- JAKEw1234



Is Berube capable?

That's probably the important q right now isn't it?
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