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rapperray
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 11 @ 11:29 AM ET
As a fan who paid money for this crap I have the right to boo the team. Booing/Empty Arena will send a message to Pegula.

BTW I can't believe how pathetic this organization has become since Pegula purchased them. He has got to be the softest owner in the NHL. Darcy has been robing the Sabres blind for over a decade and it doesn't look like its gonna end anytime soon.

- Smittyx36



Amen Smitty... Yes you do have the right to boo and if they want that to stop then they better damn well start putting in a full effort on a nightly basis...
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Oct 11 @ 11:29 AM ET
OK, so I'm done with this year already so here's a conversation starter.

2014-2015 roster assuming the following:

- We get the #1 overall pick
- Leino is bought out He'll be injured
- Stafford is traded for picks at the draft We'll get nothing and like it
- Vanek is traded for picks at the deadline
- We lose Miller for nothing (great work Darcy)
- Sign Callahan as a UFA won't happen
- Sign Thornton as a UFA won't happen
- Sign Steen as a UFA Maybe?

Steen - Hodgson - Callahan
Foligno - Reinhart - Ennis
Grigorenko - Girgensons - Armia
Larsson - Kaleta - Thornton

Ehrhoff - Pysyk
Myers - Weber I (frank)ing hate those two together
Ristolainen - Zadarov

Enroth
Hackett

I don't love Steen as 1LW but I didn't want to just throw in a superstar (Heatley etc) there because I don't think that will solve anything. We need to start putting together a true 1st line and maybe that doesn't involve Callahan either but he works there for now.

Reinhart is also probably premature at 2C but whatever.

I also doubt Thornton would ever sign in Buffalo but again, whatever.

- sambarugh
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 11 @ 11:30 AM ET
He's still a semi fan favourite so they'll keep him around until he becomes expendable in that regard. Like when Justin Bailey is called up or when we're finally a consistent playoff team.
- Sabresfan-365



Now... What century will that be in?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Oct 11 @ 11:36 AM ET
Can someone explain to me why in the hell you would trade Vanek for picks? we don't need anymore picks and we don't need anymore players that are 3-5 years away. How much longer do we need to wait? I wouldn't trade Vanek.
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Oct 11 @ 11:36 AM ET

- Stafford is traded for picks at the draft We'll get nothing and like it
I don't care if we get nothing. At this point, a 3rd rounder will be fine.
- Sign Callahan as a UFA won't happen
Probably not but we can try throwing money at him and see what happens
- Sign Thornton as a UFA won't happen
I said it probably wouldn't, they probably resign him.
Myers - Weber I (frank)ing hate those two together
Me too. I hate Myers with anyone right now but I didn't know who else to pair him with.

- jochfr
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 11 @ 11:38 AM ET
I'd assume that a lot of people booing understand that it is the organization and not the players, although some players do deserve it (Stafford).

That being said, people are dumb.

- jochfr



Wait those arent Drews? I was Drewing no not really
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Oct 11 @ 11:39 AM ET
Can someone explain to me why in the hell you would trade Vanek for picks? we don't need anymore picks and we don't need anymore players that are 3-5 years away. How much longer do we need to wait? I wouldn't trade Vanek.
- SABRES 89


It's still not a bad thing to stock more high picks.

And for the record I wouldn't trade him either, but he's essentially 99.9% gone.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 11 @ 11:39 AM ET
Now... What century will that be in?
- rapperray


SHould I have my grandkids take over this account in say 25 years
jaumiller
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ask not what Matt Ellis can do for you, ask what can you do for Matt Ellis. , NY
Joined: 12.06.2012

Oct 11 @ 11:39 AM ET
Can someone explain to me why in the hell you would trade Vanek for picks? we don't need anymore picks and we don't need anymore players that are 3-5 years away. How much longer do we need to wait? I wouldn't trade Vanek.
- SABRES 89

You trade him for what you can get. No way in hell he will resign here.
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 11 @ 11:39 AM ET
Can someone explain to me why in the hell you would trade Vanek for picks? we don't need anymore picks and we don't need anymore players that are 3-5 years away. How much longer do we need to wait? I wouldn't trade Vanek.
- SABRES 89

Agreed. Unfortunitely he will walk or be traded... Because why the frank would he wanna stay here in Buffalo on a team that has gotten worse each year since his rookie season!?!? We could offer him 1m more than everyone else and I'm sure he would still say no.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 11 @ 11:40 AM ET
Can someone explain to me why in the hell you would trade Vanek for picks? we don't need anymore picks and we don't need anymore players that are 3-5 years away. How much longer do we need to wait? I wouldn't trade Vanek.
- SABRES 89


If we dont trade him will you promise not to complain when he walks for nothing?
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Oct 11 @ 11:41 AM ET
OK, so I'm done with this year already so here's a conversation starter.

2014-2015 roster assuming the following:

- We get the #1 overall pick
- Leino is bought out
- Stafford is traded for picks at the draft
- Vanek is traded for picks at the deadline
- We lose Miller for nothing (great work Darcy)
- Sign Callahan as a UFA
- Sign Thornton as a UFA
- Sign Steen as a UFA

Steen - Hodgson - Callahan
Foligno - Reinhart - Ennis
Grigorenko - Girgensons - Armia
Larsson - Kaleta - Thornton

Ehrhoff - Pysyk
Myers - Weber
Ristolainen - Zadarov

Enroth
Hackett

I don't love Steen as 1LW but I didn't want to just throw in a superstar (Heatley etc) there because I don't think that will solve anything. We need to start putting together a true 1st line and maybe that doesn't involve Callahan either but he works there for now.

Reinhart is also probably premature at 2C but whatever.

I also doubt Thornton would ever sign in Buffalo but again, whatever.

- sambarugh


Your forgot Steve Ott who will resign here. Team will look like this:


Ott - Hodgson - Stafford
Foligno - Grigorenko - Ennis
Girgensons - Reinhart - Armia
Larsson - Porter - Tropp

Ehrhoff - Pysyk
Myers - Zadarov
Weber - Ristolainen
McBain

Enroth
Hackett


Ott will resign. Stafford is crap so he will stay. Vanek gone for picks and prospect. Miller for nothing.

You have to be positive and hope Grigs finds his game and maybe he will if he played with some guys for a longer period of time.

Armia is decent so far but obviously injury didnt help. Tropp will push Kaleta out of here. McBain will stay as he isnt terrible and you can always use defense and if we do draft Reinhart he will be able to play right away.

Leino is bought out
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 11 @ 11:43 AM ET
I'd assume that a lot of people booing understand that it is the organization and not the players, although some players do deserve it (Stafford).

That being said, people are dumb.

- jochfr


IMO, If Darcy were to be fired, you would see a drastic change of scenery in and around the arena.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Oct 11 @ 11:44 AM ET
You trade him for what you can get. No way in hell he will resign here.
- jaumiller

You don't trade him for picks
t_leafs21
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Nylander - Matthews - Marner, forever, ON
Joined: 07.26.2010

Oct 11 @ 11:44 AM ET
Your forgot Steve Ott who will resign here. Team will look like this:


Ott - Hodgson - Stafford
Foligno - Grigorenko - Ennis
Girgensons - Reinhart - Armia
Larsson - Porter - Tropp

Ehrhoff - Pysyk
Myers - Zadarov
Weber - Ristolainen
McBain

Any team that has Ott and Stafford on their 1st line might as well just give up.

The rest of the team looks alright after that though. In terms of potential anyway

Enroth
Hackett


Ott will resign. Stafford is crap so he will stay. Vanek gone for picks and prospect. Miller for nothing.

You have to be positive and hope Grigs finds his game and maybe he will if he played with some guys for a longer period of time.

Armia is decent so far but obviously injury didnt help. Tropp will push Kaleta out of here. McBain will stay as he isnt terrible and you can always use defense and if we do draft Reinhart he will be able to play right away.

Leino is bought out

- Beezer33



Any team that has Ott and Stafford on their 1st line might as well give up.

The rest of them looks alright though. In terms of potential anyway
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 11 @ 11:44 AM ET
If we dont trade him will you promise not to complain when he walks for nothing?
- hubie



But Hubie... Isn't that Darcy's MO... Let them walk for nothing?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Oct 11 @ 11:45 AM ET
If we dont trade him will you promise not to complain when he walks for nothing?
- hubie

Wake up, i'm not the only one that complains or haven't you read all these blogs lately.
sambarugh
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY
Joined: 01.14.2008

Oct 11 @ 11:45 AM ET
Your forgot Steve Ott who will resign here. Team will look like this:

Ott - Hodgson - Stafford
Foligno - Grigorenko - Ennis
Girgensons - Reinhart - Armia
Larsson - Porter - Tropp

Ehrhoff - Pysyk
Myers - Zadarov
Weber - Ristolainen
McBain

Enroth
Hackett


Ott will resign. Stafford is crap so he will stay. Vanek gone for picks and prospect. Miller for nothing.

You have to be positive and hope Grigs finds his game and maybe he will if he played with some guys for a longer period of time.

Armia is decent so far but obviously injury didnt help. Tropp will push Kaleta out of here. McBain will stay as he isnt terrible and you can always use defense and if we do draft Reinhart he will be able to play right away.

Leino is bought out

- Beezer33


Ott may stay, although I wouldn't if I were him.

That first line makes me want to throw up. As does the 4th line. Porter, Tropp, Flynn are and Co are not NHL calibur players and they should be call ups only.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 11 @ 11:45 AM ET
But Hubie... Isn't that Darcy's MO... Let them walk for nothing?
- rapperray


well first he would need to put a contract out there... then say we dont talk contracts during the season
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 11 @ 11:47 AM ET
Wake up, i'm not the only one that complains or haven't you read all these blogs lately.
- SABRES 89


Reid all the blogs from roughly 9-5 every day and we react the same way to the why trade vanek people.
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Oct 11 @ 11:48 AM ET
Zadarov will play next game in place of Risto or McBain apparently is a nice rumor
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 11 @ 11:49 AM ET
Zadarov will play next game in place of Risto or McBain apparently is a nice rumor
- Beezer33


of the six those are the two they would take out?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 11 @ 11:50 AM ET
of the six those are the two they would take out?
- hubie


Mine would be Tallinder, but thats just me.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Oct 11 @ 11:51 AM ET
Zadarov will play next game in place of Risto or McBain apparently is a nice rumor
- Beezer33

Any other Sabres playing next game . None have showed up for any of the other games.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 11 @ 11:51 AM ET
Mine would be Tallinder, but thats just me.
- ImThatGuy


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