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AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 13 @ 1:35 PM ET
Why are you convinced they won't get value for them? I hope the Oilers are at least looking at what's available for those guys. And yes, it's stupid to look at deficiencies in goal and on defense (mostly in goal) and continue to draft skilled forwards. I'm not saying they have to draft a goalie, but all those high first round picks would have gone a long way in a trade for one. You can deny it all you want, but there's an obvious flaw in Edmonton's strategy.
- Jeffmt

Mact come in to late,he had to draft best player available and that was Nurse,MacT knew the goalie the Oil had was not a guarantee number one goalie and is why He try for Schneider etc.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Oct 13 @ 1:37 PM ET
Go Dubnyk Go!

Go (frank) yourself that is.
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Oct 13 @ 1:38 PM ET
Why are you convinced they won't get value for them? I hope the Oilers are at least looking at what's available for those guys. And yes, it's stupid to look at deficiencies in goal and on defense (mostly in goal) and continue to draft skilled forwards. I'm not saying they have to draft a goalie, but all those high first round picks would have gone a long way in a trade for one. You can deny it all you want, but there's an obvious flaw in Edmonton's strategy.
- Jeffmt


They have Kelfbom and now Nurse. That Belov guy looked good last night too. With J. Schultz and Ference in the fold I think they're fine on D.

But they made the same mistake we made for a while with our goalies. They were indecisive with Dubnyk. In the meantime some pretty good young goalies have changed hands the last couple years.

Previous management sat on their hands and ignored obvious opportunities to improve the team. I don't think Dubnyk is terrible, but he's certainly playing terrible.
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Oct 13 @ 1:38 PM ET
Go Dubnyk Go!

Go (frank) yourself that is.

- laughs2907


AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 13 @ 1:38 PM ET
I think it's fair to say that no one, not even you, expected Dubnyk to poop the bed as much as he has to this point.

Flawed?... No.

- OilDerek

I have never been sold on Dubnyk even from the numbers He had from last couple seasons,my believe is that those numbers got better because Dubnyk was playing with less pressure because the team was out from the playoff and played teams that were out as well and was not pressure,yes He did had his good games but to me his stats are a bit fake and so far is proving me correct.
JShack
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The Park
Joined: 08.29.2012

Oct 13 @ 1:39 PM ET
Does this guy reflect most Oilers fans?
- Zombie27


God no. Everything this one types is gibberish.
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 13 @ 1:41 PM ET
God no. Everything this one types is gibberish.
- JShack

Ye so lest trade one of the Hall/Eberle/Nuge or Yak for reimer
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Oct 13 @ 1:42 PM ET
I have never been sold on Dubnyk even from the numbers He had from last couple seasons,my believe is that those numbers got better because Dubnyk was playing with less pressure because the team was out from the playoff and played teams that were out as well and was not pressure,yes He did had his good games but to me his stats are a bit fake and so far is proving me correct.
- AlEx_OiL


Dubnyk blows.................................. Dead goats.

I have never been a fan either... In fact I remember being angry when they chose him over Deslaurier. I wonder what ECHL team he is on now?
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Oct 13 @ 1:42 PM ET
Why are you convinced they won't get value for them? I hope the Oilers are at least looking at what's available for those guys. And yes, it's stupid to look at deficiencies in goal and on defense (mostly in goal) and continue to draft skilled forwards. I'm not saying they have to draft a goalie, but all those high first round picks would have gone a long way in a trade for one. You can deny it all you want, but there's an obvious flaw in Edmonton's strategy.
- Jeffmt

Established NHL players will always have more value than unproven draft picks. At this point, all those picks have more value. Where is the flaw?
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Oct 13 @ 1:43 PM ET
They have Kelfbom and now Nurse. That Belov guy looked good last night too. With J. Schultz and Ference in the fold I think they're fine on D.

But they made the same mistake we made for a while with our goalies. They were indecisive with Dubnyk. In the meantime some pretty good young goalies have changed hands the last couple years.

Previous management sat on their hands and ignored obvious opportunities to improve the team. I don't think Dubnyk is terrible, but he's certainly playing terrible.

- djamon


A fair analysis...
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Oct 13 @ 1:43 PM ET
I said it before, and I'll say it again... This would make us a better team.

Yakupov + Marincin to Nashville for Seth Jones. We get a guy who is playing like he's been in the league for years, and we get another BBC to play with future top 2 D-man, Darnell Nurse. Nashville gets a a top line RW to help with offense (God knows they need it) and they get a very good defensive prospect. Win win for both teams. *Throw in a draft pick if need be (something like a 3rd)... I don't care about draft picks anymore*

Oilers offer their 2014 1st pick, plus a d-man not named Nurse, Schultz (and possibly Klefbom) to a team for a starting goaltender. Add a second too if you wish, I don't care... I'm sick of draft picks.

Boom! We get a starting goaltender, and Seth mutha (frank)ing Jones

Add in Gagner when he returns, and we're looking pretty (frank)ing good
jimi james
Location: Somewhere Between
Joined: 07.17.2010

Oct 13 @ 1:44 PM ET
Ye so lest trade one of the Hall/Eberle/Nuge or Yak for reimer
- AlEx_OiL

no one has proposed that trade straight up so dont get your girdle in a knot Nancy
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Oct 13 @ 1:45 PM ET
I said it before, and I'll say it again... This would make us a better team.

Yakupov + Marincin to Nashville for Seth Jones. We get a guy who is playing like he's been in the league for years, and we get another BBC to play with future top 2 D-man, Darnell Nurse. Nashville gets a a top line RW to help with offense (God knows they need it) and they get a very good defensive prospect. Win win for both teams.

Oilers offer their 2014 1st pick, plus a d-man not named Nurse, Schultz (and possibly Klefbom) to a team for a starting goaltender. Add a second too if you wish, I don't care... I'm sick of draft picks.

Boom! We get a starting goaltender, and Seth mutha (frank)ing Jones

Add in Gagner when he returns, and we're looking pretty (frank)ing good

- laughs2907

Which goaltender? which team?
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Oct 13 @ 1:45 PM ET
no one has proposed that trade straight up so dont get your girdle in a knot Nancy
- jimi james

OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Oct 13 @ 1:45 PM ET
I said it before, and I'll say it again... This would make us a better team.

Yakupov + Marincin to Nashville for Seth Jones. We get a guy who is playing like he's been in the league for years, and we get another BBC to play with future top 2 D-man, Darnell Nurse. Nashville gets a a top line RW to help with offense (God knows they need it) and they get a very good defensive prospect. Win win for both teams.

Oilers offer their 2014 1st pick, plus a d-man not named Nurse, Schultz (and possibly Klefbom) to a team for a starting goaltender. Add a second too if you wish, I don't care... I'm sick of draft picks.

Boom! We get a starting goaltender, and Seth mutha (frank)ing Jones

Add in Gagner when he returns, and we're looking pretty (frank)ing good

- laughs2907


Mac T??? Is that you???
cdjaakkola
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.08.2013

Oct 13 @ 1:47 PM ET

Soooo....who`s going 1st in the draft anyway???
JShack
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The Park
Joined: 08.29.2012

Oct 13 @ 1:47 PM ET
Ye so lest trade one of the Hall/Eberle/Nuge or Yak for reimer
- AlEx_OiL


No, but apparently lehner is our savior. It's been 5 games and were out chancing every single team. Give Dubnyk 5 more starts to shape up. We have a solid team here and it's slowly getting healthy. I said this in the other thread. 3-1-1 and were back on track. Before the season started we were down our top two centers and we were praying for a .500 start. Ebs finally scored, hemmer is playing well, nuge is AWESOME, joensuu is a wonderful surprise and our d core is deeper than it has been since pronger and spacek. Have some patience and give Eakins system a chance.
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 13 @ 1:48 PM ET
no one has proposed that trade straight up so dont get your girdle in a knot Nancy
- jimi james



easy the Oil will send Dubnyk the other way
- AlEx_OiL

Zombie27
Maple leaf

Reimer and 1st for Eberle and Dubnyk then

laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Oct 13 @ 1:48 PM ET
Which goaltender? which team?
- TheTaoOfSemenko


I don't know, but if we offer up our 2014 1st pick, our 2014 2nd round pick, a d-man not named Nurse, Schultz (and possibly Klefbom) I'm thinking we'll get a response.
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

Oct 13 @ 1:48 PM ET
Eberle isn't going anywhere. If any of the fab 5 are traded (which I don't think is happening anytime soon) it'll be Yak City.
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Oct 13 @ 1:49 PM ET
I said it before, and I'll say it again... This would make us a better team.

Yakupov + Marincin to Nashville for Seth Jones. We get a guy who is playing like he's been in the league for years, and we get another BBC to play with future top 2 D-man, Darnell Nurse. Nashville gets a a top line RW to help with offense (God knows they need it) and they get a very good defensive prospect. Win win for both teams.

Oilers offer their 2014 1st pick, plus a d-man not named Nurse, Schultz (and possibly Klefbom) to a team for a starting goaltender. Add a second too if you wish, I don't care... I'm sick of draft picks.

Boom! We get a starting goaltender, and Seth mutha (frank)ing Jones

Add in Gagner when he returns, and we're looking pretty (frank)ing good

- laughs2907


You're offering way too much in both deals, IMO. You want to offer a 1st overall, plus another decent prospect for a 4th overall? Then you think you have to give up a 1st (which might be top 8) plus another prospect for a starting goalie? Which starting goalie would that be? NJ gave up the 10th overall for an established young goalie. The Leafs gave up 2 fringe NHL'ers and a 2nd for Bernier (who everyone thought was ready).
OilDerek
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 08.26.2007

Oct 13 @ 1:49 PM ET
No, but apparently lehner is our savior. It's been 5 games and were out chancing every single team. Give Dubnyk 5 more starts to shape up. We have a solid team here and it's slowly getting healthy. I said this in the other thread. 3-1-1 and were back on track. Before the season started we were down our top two centers and we were praying for a .500 start. Ebs finally scored, hemmer is playing well, nuge is AWESOME, joensuu is a wonderful surprise and our d core is deeper than it has been since pronger and spacek. Have some patience and give Eakins system a chance.
- JShack


Their record is really not a surprise... It's the reasons behind it that we're unexpected.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Oct 13 @ 1:50 PM ET
Mac T??? Is that you???

- OilDerek


I wish I were Tambs... We'd have another cup by now.

That's not arrogance talking, that's confidence.
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Oct 13 @ 1:50 PM ET
No, but apparently lehner is our savior. It's been 5 games and were out chancing every single team. Give Dubnyk 5 more starts to shape up. We have a solid team here and it's slowly getting healthy. I said this in the other thread. 3-1-1 and were back on track. Before the season started we were down our top two centers and we were praying for a .500 start. Ebs finally scored, hemmer is playing well, nuge is AWESOME, joensuu is a wonderful surprise and our d core is deeper than it has been since pronger and spacek. Have some patience and give Eakins system a chance.
- JShack


Good advice. The Oilers looked pretty damn good last night...except for your goalie.
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Oct 13 @ 1:50 PM ET
No, but apparently lehner is our savior. It's been 5 games and were out chancing every single team. Give Dubnyk 5 more starts to shape up. We have a solid team here and it's slowly getting healthy. I said this in the other thread. 3-1-1 and were back on track. Before the season started we were down our top two centers and we were praying for a .500 start. Ebs finally scored, hemmer is playing well, nuge is AWESOME, joensuu is a wonderful surprise and our d core is deeper than it has been since pronger and spacek. Have some patience and give Eakins system a chance.
- JShack

hey i have said before give Dubnyk max 10 to 15 games,just hope not one dies here of a heart attack
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