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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 16 @ 2:14 PM ET
Based on his excellent starts and being the best player on the Flyers so far this season?
- wolfhounds


Low hurdle
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 16 @ 2:14 PM ET
I think we'll find that McGinn is going to come crashing down to Earth. Hartnell when he comes back fits the same mold, and has the pedigree of a goal scorer. I think playing McGinn in that spot long term is setting him up for failure.
- MJL


You are probably right. But I say let him fail or succeed. If he fails you knew it would happen and he either goes down or plays on the 3rd or 4th line. But for now, leave him where he is and see what happens. We got nothing to lose. He may surprise.

At least we can say he has about three more weeks to do what he has to do, until Hartnell comes back.


wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Oct 16 @ 2:15 PM ET
It's his own fault for not playing below expectations
- funmaster18


Mason's an inconsiderate bastard, and clearly not a team player by playing well when everybody else is playing like crap.

Trade Him!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 16 @ 2:15 PM ET
Let's not ignore his career pattern of looking fantastic for awhile, getting everybody's hopes up, then subsequently turning into a pile of doggy poo.

I'm pulling for the guy, but a dozen or so games as a Flyer is hardly enough evidence to declare a turned page, much less a complete career turnaround.

- Tomahawk


Don't be negative now.

Mason's hot start = The answer
Players dramatically poopting their drawers = small sample size


Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 16 @ 2:16 PM ET
Let's not ignore his career pattern of looking fantastic for awhile, getting everybody's hopes up, then subsequently turning into a pile of doggy poo.

I'm pulling for the guy, but a dozen or so games as a Flyer is hardly enough evidence to declare a turned page, much less a complete career turnaround.

- Tomahawk

he will be stellar until a long term extension is done

then dog poo city
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Oct 16 @ 2:16 PM ET
Low hurdle
- Scoob


It's true.

But with the rest of the team playing poorly, especially in their own end, Mason't job gets significantly harder...and he's still been solid.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 16 @ 2:17 PM ET
I blame ESPN and TSN, plus the instigator rule.
- jmatchett383


i still blame stevens.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 16 @ 2:18 PM ET
he will be stellar until a long term extension is done

then dog poo city

- Marc D



So depressing, but true.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Oct 16 @ 2:18 PM ET
Don't be negative now.

Mason's hot start = The answer
Players dramatically poopting their drawers = small sample size

- PLindbergh31


Are you saying Mason hasn't played well?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 16 @ 2:19 PM ET
Are you saying Mason hasn't played well?
- wolfhounds


Of course not. He's played great. But as Tomahawk mentioned, the history can't be ignored.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 16 @ 2:20 PM ET
Don't be negative now.

Mason's hot start = The answer
Players dramatically poopting their drawers = small sample size



- PLindbergh31

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 16 @ 2:20 PM ET
Don't be negative now.

Mason's hot start = The answer
Players dramatically poopting their drawers = small sample size

- PLindbergh31


Mason has been great in Philly either side of a five month break. If he falls apart later this season then they don't resign him and get a new goalie in free agency. So I can't be too worried about the goalie situation when we have forwards signed for 6 and 9 more years in the worst form of their careers.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 16 @ 2:22 PM ET
In reality McGinn's play will fall off but I think he is playing for a full time bottom six role on the team. Raffl too.

But this is not a problem, really.

Raffl Hall Talbot would be a heck of a 4th line. A lot more skill and responsible play then the current 4th line getting benched in the third in tight games.

Couts between Read and McGinn has possibilities as a third line.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Oct 16 @ 2:24 PM ET
So depressing, but true.
- Tomahawk

I was joking, I surely hope not.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 16 @ 2:25 PM ET
In reality McGinn's play will fall off but I think he is playing for a full time bottom six role on the team. Raffl too.

But this is not a problem, really.

Raffl Hall Talbot would be a heck of a 4th line. A lot more skill and responsible play then the current 4th line getting benched in the third in tight games.

Couts between Read and McGinn has possibilities as a third line.

- Marc D


And if they get healthy enough to do that it would be welcomed. A 4th line of Hall, Talbot, and Raffl could be decent as well. The Zac Rinaldo show of running around hitting everyone for the 30-40 seconds he's on the ice was cute for a while, but it's getting old. A 4th line that could play 8-10 minutes that can have some puck possession would be cool.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 16 @ 2:27 PM ET
That's why I said the #2 pick plus. You'd hope that the plus evens the trade out.

Take a look at last year's draft. If you talked to 5 people, you would have gotten 3 different answers as to who the #1 pick would be. And one of the "sure" top-3 bets ended up going #4. So if you thought Jones was #1 overall, you could have traded back to 4th and gotten him plus other assets.

That was a special case with no clear-cut #1, but still, you hope and attractive enough package comes along with another high pick if you value a player more than the "consensus" top pick.

- jmatchett383

You didn't know Jones was going to go 4th.
I would have expected Jones 1/2
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 16 @ 2:30 PM ET
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/flyers/US-Canada-womens-hockey-game-ends-in-brawl.html
- nastyflyergirl


hey, that looks like gutterson field house! go, cats, go!

wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Oct 16 @ 2:33 PM ET
hey, that looks like gutterson field house! go, cats, go!
- hammarby31


it is.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 16 @ 2:33 PM ET
And if they get healthy enough to do that it would be welcomed. A 4th line of Hall, Talbot, and Raffl could be decent as well. The Zac Rinaldo show of running around hitting everyone for the 30-40 seconds he's on the ice was cute for a while, but it's getting old. A 4th line that could play 8-10 minutes that can have some puck possession would be cool.
- PLindbergh31


YES! YES! A breakthrough!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 16 @ 2:34 PM ET
YES! YES! A breakthrough!

- AllInForFlyers


Everyone loves Rinaldo, and I get it, he's an energy guy, but they fail to realize he's out there hitting players because the Flyers never have the puck when he's on the ice.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 16 @ 2:35 PM ET
You are probably right. But I say let him fail or succeed. If he fails you knew it would happen and he either goes down or plays on the 3rd or 4th line. But for now, leave him where he is and see what happens. We got nothing to lose. He may surprise.

At least we can say he has about three more weeks to do what he has to do, until Hartnell comes back.

- MBFlyerfan



I have no issues with leaving him there with Hartnell out. And maybe he'll prove me to be wrong and he's a diamond in the rough.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Oct 16 @ 2:36 PM ET
Of course not. He's played great. But as Tomahawk mentioned, the history can't be ignored.
- PLindbergh31


Yup, we'll see what happens over the course of this season.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Oct 16 @ 2:37 PM ET
Everyone loves Rinaldo, and I get it, he's an energy guy, but they fail to realize he's out there hitting players because the Flyers never have the puck when he's on the ice.
- PLindbergh31


One observer at a time, everyone who watches this sport without rose-colored glasses comes to this inevitable conclusion.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 16 @ 2:37 PM ET
http://www.cbssports.com/...odies-athlete-commercials
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 16 @ 2:38 PM ET
it is.
- wilsonecho91


of course it is! it's like those miserable psalms, they're sooooooooooooo depressing.
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