They hate their "fans."
- Flyskippy

Nope just that Flyskippy goon.

G for Jones, Forsberg, 1st and second flame on
- PhillaBully

I don't mind trading anyone under the right circumstances, but can't we hold off on trading Giroux until we do a couple of things first:

1. Go through this season of potential horror and maybe draft an elite winger for him to play with?

2. Go through this season of potential horror and maybe draft a defenseman who can help next season, considering we'll have at least three slots open with Timonen, Meszaros and Gill leaving?

I am not saying that they should never, ever trade Claude Giroux. I just think that now isn't the best time to do that.

G for Jones, Forsberg, 1st and second flame on
- PhillaBully

Not sure why we are even considering trading G as his NTC has already kicked in.

Just for the fact that if you're going to use a line to try to shut down the opposition's top line, I'd rather not have a weak link.
- bradleyc4

gotcha.

Well at least this week will knock out another excuse for them. They can't possibly use conditioning as an excuse after this week of practice. So I wonder what's next.
- Just5

they aren't game sharp...too long of a layoff...

Not sure why we are even considering trading G as his NTC has already kicked in.
- FlyersGrace

G is still playing on his last contract. I don;t think the NMC kicks in until next year

G is still playing on his last contract. I don;t think the NMC kicks in until next year
- nastyflyergirl

There's something in the new CBA which states that the NMC takes effect as soon as an extension is agreed upon.

There's something in the new CBA which states that the NMC takes effect as soon as an extension is agreed upon.
- MJL

really? interesting

He's (Coots) already better defensively than both players (Hanzel/Staal).

- bradleyc4

Not buying that one...what I have seen and the stats don't really bear that out.

good news on Kimmo if he's still practicing on top pairing I guess.

"Voracek, who had a car accident in Europe but didn’t suffer any major injuries, came back in less-than-ideal shape after spending most of the offseason in Montreal.

His conditioning level drew some ire from the coaching staff and management.

To compound matters, he then suffered a back injury in preseason, which further set his conditioning behind schedule."

From Pinotch

Is it too much to ask for these guys to come to camp in some kind of shape?? WTF....maybe the Flyers should put in offseason workout bonuses in contracts.
- Just5

Body fat wise, he reported in MUCH better shape than he did in January after the lockout (when both he and Hartnell reported a few pounds overweight). But he apparently hadn't done enough skating/on ice work to have his skating conditioning to the point where the team wanted it.

I am a frequent visitor of HFboards.com. Here is a snip, with ''sources'' at the top:

http://hfboards.hockeysfu...read.php?t=1520899&page=2

My best friend and I are sitting in section 243 and my friend gets a text from his uncle that he’s sitting next to Claude Giroux and Hartsy. We call ******** and he swears up and down that Hartnel is sitting right next to him and G next to Hartnel and that pretty much the whole Flyers team is in his section. Section 236 Row 3, end zone right above the Lincoln Finnacial Field sign. At halftime we decide to go scope out it. As we make our way towards their section the first Flyer we see is Tye McGinn who is standing in line with a buddy waiting to buy beer. We decide to get in line behind him because we needed a beer anyway. No one what so ever recognizes that it is McGinn standing in line but us. He orders 5 beers and Eagles fans begin to gripe and yell at him because its taking so long to serve him and we just chuckle at the fact that its McGinn. As he leaves we compliment him on his solid play on the first line this year and he turns around and smirks and acknowledges us. Just as that takes place Brayden Schenn comes stumbling through the beer line following a smoke bomb of a blonde girl like a little puppy dog. Again NOONE recognizes who he is and we yell “YEAH SCHENNER GET IT” he turns around and starts laughing up and walks back up to his seat. As he’s walking up to his section Max Talbot comes stumbling down the stairs clearly bombed and in a stooper and makes his way to the bathroom. We are in disbelief of what we are seeing. My buddy decides to take a piss while I’m still in line waiting for our beers. Rinaldo then comes down the steps and finally people recognize him and are taking pictures with him. I see him make his way to the bathroom. My buddy comes out cracking up and begins to tell me how Rinaldo took a piss in the stall and was talking to one of his buddies in the next stall about how he loves when girls recognize him because he’s a hockey player and how he was going to slay some blonde after the game. After the game we meet up with my buddies uncle and he told us that G, Hartsy, both Schenns, Read, Simmer, Coots, McGinn, Jakob, Talbot, and Rhino were all in their section and all drinking and carrying on ALOT. He said Hartnel ordered at least 60 beers for all the Flyers and finally bought him 2 for passing them down all night from the server. Read joked to G every time the Eagles got booed by the fans that it sounded like the Flyers power play. Read told a story about being ****ed up in a cab in center city and puking on the cab driver. They all subliminally joked to one another about how bad upper management is. G made a comment that they might win a game soon if they actually manage to play in the 3rd period and Read and Hartnel chime in and said yeah if we don’t get lit up before that or blow it with 4 minutes left. Basically the Flyers locker room is a complete mess and disaster and the players are all treating it as a joke. I have pictures of McGinn, Talbot and Rinaldo to verify.

http://www.crossingbroad....the-eagles-yesterday.html

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good news on Kimmo if he's still practicing on top pairing I guess.
- wilsonecho91

You have to remove a limb to keep that guy out for more then a game.

I am a frequent visitor of HFboards.com. Here is a snip, with ''sources'' at the top:

http://hfboards.hockeysfu...read.php?t=1520899&page=2



http://www.crossingbroad....the-eagles-yesterday.html

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- Bearintheforest

This is how it all starts!

Not buying that one...what I have seen and the stats don't really bear that out.
- exlund

You're certainly entitled to your own opinion.

They all subliminally joked to one another about how bad upper management is.
- Bearintheforest

This line intrigues me... so, is it like if you play back what they were saying in reverse, all you hear is "Homer sucks! Homer sucks!"... ?

You have to remove a limb to keep that guy out for more then a game.
- MJL

he skates like he has 1 limb

in a stooper!!

I am a frequent visitor of HFboards.com. Here is a snip, with ''sources'' at the top:

http://hfboards.hockeysfu...read.php?t=1520899&page=2



http://www.crossingbroad....the-eagles-yesterday.html

Comments? Is it all rubbish?
- Bearintheforest

Truthfully?

It doesn't bother me or excite me, either way. These are young men, who play a physical sport, who people -- especially younger women -- tend to gravitate toward.

They will never care as much about the outcomes as fans will. They've been playing their whole lives, on different teams, with different players, for different coaches.

That doesn't mean they don't care. Far from it. It just means that their perspective on games, bad stretches, slumps...it's just different.

I have a job that people think is difficult. It really isn't that tough. Some days I care a lot. Some days, it's harder to get motivated.

Players are human, too. As long as they stay in shape, I honestly don't care what they do on their own time.

This is how it all starts!
- MJL

Sorry

If the team isn't doing a solid job on the ice, stuff like this will be the medias wet dream. Sadly.

Lecavalier - Giroux - Raffl
McGinn - B. Schenn - Voracek
Read - Couturier - Simmonds
Hall - Talbot - Rinaldo


Oh, my gosh.

Craig Berube, you're making a believer out of me, one day at a time.

Finally, someone has done it:

1. Reunited the McGinn-Schenn-Voracek line which was ABSOLUTELY MONSTROUS in the games they played last season.

2. GIVEN SEAN COUTURIER TWO WINGERS. I could shed tears of joy right now.

3. Moved Maxime Talbot to the fourth line with Adam Hall -- which now means you can actually PLAY the fourth line, limit Talbot's minutes in offensive situations AND still get use from him on the penalty kill. More tears of joy.

Thank you, whoever made the call on these. Because these are right moves.
- AllInForFlyers

Hopefully when Hartnell comes back and gets up to speed, he replaces Raffl on the top line, while Raffl replaces Hall on the 4th line and we will actually have a 4th line thats a threat to score once in a while!

I am a frequent visitor of HFboards.com. Here is a snip, with ''sources'' at the top:

http://hfboards.hockeysfu...read.php?t=1520899&page=2



http://www.crossingbroad....the-eagles-yesterday.html

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- Bearintheforest

Can't confirm all, but B. Schenn and Rinaldo are on point. They are young and love the tail that comes with the fame. I don't see B. Schenn with Luke much, but he is always following the blondes. Zac's personality is exactly that, doesn't care what press he gets (good or bad), but if his name and face is out there he uses it.

Truthfully?

It doesn't bother me or excite me, either way. These are young men, who play a physical sport, who people -- especially younger women -- tend to gravitate toward.

They will never care as much about the outcomes as fans will. They've been playing their whole lives, on different teams, with different players, for different coaches.

That doesn't mean they don't care. Far from it. It just means that their perspective on games, bad stretches, slumps...it's just different.

I have a job that people think is difficult. It really isn't that tough. Some days I care a lot. Some days, it's harder to get motivated.

Players are human, too. As long as they stay in shape, I honestly don't care what they do on their own time.
- AllInForFlyers

This shall be quoted for truth.


No need for moralism, and it was not my intention when posting this. I just think that if there is some truth to this, the media will be all over very soon, especially if the losing continues.

Definitely an area where he needs to improve. But he is not alone there.
- MJL

cough, cough, Simmonds, cough, cough

I am a frequent visitor of HFboards.com. Here is a snip, with ''sources'' at the top:

http://hfboards.hockeysfu...read.php?t=1520899&page=2



http://www.crossingbroad....the-eagles-yesterday.html

Comments? Is it all rubbish?
- Bearintheforest

Even if this is all absolutely true, none of it seems problematic.