bradleyc4
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Location: the jewelry is still out Joined: 01.16.2007
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Calgary keeping Monahan all year. Tough call, but I would have played it safe and sent him back. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Out of curiosity, does anyone collect hockey cards? Or did anyone collect in the post-2005 lockout era? |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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Calgary keeping Monahan all year. Tough call, but I would have played it safe and sent him back. - bradleyc4
Isn't he their leading goal scorer? |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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Calgary keeping Monahan all year. Tough call, but I would have played it safe and sent him back. - bradleyc4
Keeping him probably makes the GM's job more safe. |
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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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Out of curiosity, does anyone collect hockey cards? Or did anyone collect in the post-2005 lockout era? - jmatchett383
I did.
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Trainfellow
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.23.2012
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Out of curiosity, does anyone collect hockey cards? Or did anyone collect in the post-2005 lockout era? - jmatchett383
I used to collect, but mostly 90s era nothing post lockout |
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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the jewelry is still out Joined: 01.16.2007
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Isn't he their leading goal scorer? - johndewar
Tied for second.
But he's shooting an unsustainable 29%, heavily sheltered vs. weak competition and seeing mostly offensive zone starts.
None of those are criticisms of how you should handle a 19-year-old in the NHL, just facts pointing towards regression, as well as the inevitable rookie wall. |
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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the jewelry is still out Joined: 01.16.2007
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Keeping him probably makes the GM's job more safe. - Feanor
That's the kind of short-term thinking that someone above the GM should be monitoring. |
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Only if JvR gets to play with Evgeni Malkin on the reg. - johndewar
He seems to be doing ok with Kessel. |
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Did you see the JvR Kessel show last night?
If not, watch the highlights.
- Marc D
I watch a bunch of Leafs games. I'm a masochist. |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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That's the kind of short-term thinking that someone above the GM should be monitoring. - bradleyc4
So should Seth Jones and MacKinnon be sent back to Junior to be "safe"? |
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That's the kind of short-term thinking that someone above the GM should be monitoring. - bradleyc4
It's a tough call. His play has basically forced their hand. Flames are playing some solid hockey right now. Would be a tough sell to their fans sending him back. |
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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the jewelry is still out Joined: 01.16.2007
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So should Seth Jones, Barkov and MacKinnon be sent back to Junior to be "safe"? - Feanor
Every case is different. But if you're not getting top-6 ES minutes (as a forward) plus some special teams play, I would send the player back.
There's a host of reasons why, but the biggest is that I personally feel that playing top dog on your junior team (in all situations) is better for a young player's development than toiling around with 12-15 minutes of sheltered ice time in the NHL.
I also look at an organization like the Red Wings -- who are often regarded as one of the best at developing its players -- and see how they do it. Notoriously slow development of their youngsters. |
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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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Tied for second.
But he's shooting an unsustainable 29%, heavily sheltered vs. weak competition and seeing mostly offensive zone starts.
None of those are criticisms of how you should handle a 19-year-old in the NHL, just facts pointing towards regression, as well as the inevitable rookie wall. - bradleyc4
When did you become the stats guy? The kid's playing great. There's no reason to send him back. |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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Tied for second.
But he's shooting an unsustainable 29%, heavily sheltered vs. weak competition and seeing mostly offensive zone starts.
None of those are criticisms of how you should handle a 19-year-old in the NHL, just facts pointing towards regression, as well as the inevitable rookie wall. - bradleyc4
Sounds about right. |
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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Let's make a trade. Just for poops and giggles.
Let me get Bergevin on the line.
BRB. |
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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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Let's make a trade. Just for poops and giggles.
Let me get Bergevin on the line.
BRB. - Pecafan Fan
Nice Avatar. Very stylish. I like it.
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Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme Joined: 01.20.2009
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Nice Avatar. Very stylish. I like it.
- mayorofangrytown
ty, Sir. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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That's the kind of short-term thinking that someone above the GM should be monitoring. - bradleyc4
If the kid is showing that he belongs in the NHL, then they're making the right choice to keep him. growing pains are inevitable regardless, so let him go through them now if they happen. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Every case is different. But if you're not getting top-6 ES minutes (as a forward) plus some special teams play, I would send the player back.
There's a host of reasons why, but the biggest is that I personally feel that playing top dog on your junior team (in all situations) is better for a young player's development than toiling around with 12-15 minutes of sheltered ice time in the NHL.
I also look at an organization like the Red Wings -- who are often regarded as one of the best at developing its players -- and see how they do it. Notoriously slow development of their youngsters. - bradleyc4
It really depends. I don't think that Scott Laughton currently playing top dog for his Junior team is better then if they had kept him in the NHL. A young player that is capable of playing in the NHL, should be in the NHL. You get better by playing against tough competition. And against players that are better then you are. Not by beating up on younger and less mature players as a whole. |
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mrhattrick27
New York Rangers |
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Location: NJ Joined: 02.01.2008
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No Hank tomorrow.... I'm hoping this isn't a poop show |
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bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the jewelry is still out Joined: 01.16.2007
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It really depends. I don't think that Scott Laughton currently playing top dog for his Junior team is better then if they had kept him in the NHL. A young player that is capable of playing in the NHL, should be in the NHL. You get better by playing against tough competition. And against players that are better then you are. Not by beating up on younger and less mature players as a whole. - MJL
There's no hard evidence that either philosophy works better.
To me, it boils down to what the NHL game can do to an 18 or 19-year-old body. It's a rough sport and most teenagers aren't at the physical compete level of guys in their 20's and 30's.
So, to me, it's riskier to keep them in the NHL. And that's what it's all about for me and what I believe -- risk management. |
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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB Joined: 01.18.2007
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No Hank tomorrow.... I'm hoping this isn't a poop show - mrhattrick27 )
It will be .. 7-0 Rangers.. we don't do well against other team's backup tenders. |
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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ignoreland, GA Joined: 11.04.2005
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No Hank tomorrow.... I'm hoping this isn't a poop show - mrhattrick27
Have no fear, due to a translation error in the Flyers' organization, they spell "opposing backup goalie" this way: "Reigning Vezina winner." |
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No Hank tomorrow.... I'm hoping this isn't a poop show - mrhattrick27
No worries, Flyers usually make back up goalies look like Vezina finalists |
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