He'll score more than he misses.
- buffalofan19

thanks. Same goes for Moulson

thanks. Same goes for Moulson
- mighty13duck

You all clearly got the best player in the deal, and a guy that will solidify your top-6 tremendously. I think Vanek will be under less pressure, physically and performance-wise in the Island which should be a boon to him.

I always liked Vanek, even if I was frustrated with him from time to time. I expect him to tear it up with JT and wish him all the best. I personally plan to give him a standing ovation next time he's in the building - I do hope they do more for Vanek than they did for Pomminville this year.

All that said, this was also a solid deal for the Sabres. We essentially got 2 good picks in next years' draft and a stopgap replacement for Vanek for the rest of this brutal season. There wasn't really anyone ready for that top-3 role on our team, so the Moulson pickup is important in that light. I don't think we will make any serious attempt to resign him, and may move him on for even more future come the deadline.

I don't however think you'll try and move Vanek unless you are well out of the playoff picture come late February, which would shock me. This move may make it more difficult to acquire defensive / goaltending help, but we will see.

I asked this on another thread but how is Vanek on shootouts?
- mighty13duck

He is very good in shootouts. The Isles will definitely pick up some extra points with Vanek in shootouts.

That's a terrible way of looking at it.
- ThePresident

i was answering the question "Did you ever worry about Vanek when your team played the Sabres."

I asked this on another thread but how is Vanek on shootouts?
- mighty13duck

Vanek is a career 20 for 54

They could have traded Moulson for a 1st rounder at the deadline. If they really wanted to improve the team, they could have traded the 1st and 2nd for Vanek while keeping Moulson....this just doesn't seem like that big an improvement, maybe make them win 5 more games....but that's not worth what they gave up.
- ThePresident

10 points!!!! thats not a big deal???

To say that the Isles got hosed is a bit silly...

Moulson is not a 30 goal scorer without Tavares, he might not even be a 20 goal scorer without him.

Think about how much less pressure there is on Vanek with Tavares passing to him.

Obviously though, this all hinges on Vanek resigning with the Isles, which I dont see why not.

However, though, this doesnt solve the gaping hole in the defense, if anything this trade made the hole bigger. Vanek does not play defense.
- aecliptic

agreed with everything but defensively its impossible to be worse than moulson. impossible!

You all clearly got the best player in the deal, and a guy that will solidify your top-6 tremendously. I think Vanek will be under less pressure, physically and performance-wise in the Island which should be a boon to him.

I always liked Vanek, even if I was frustrated with him from time to time. I expect him to tear it up with JT and wish him all the best. I personally plan to give him a standing ovation next time he's in the building - I do hope they do more for Vanek than they did for Pomminville this year.

All that said, this was also a solid deal for the Sabres. We essentially got 2 good picks in next years' draft and a stopgap replacement for Vanek for the rest of this brutal season. There wasn't really anyone ready for that top-3 role on our team, so the Moulson pickup is important in that light. I don't think we will make any serious attempt to resign him, and may move him on for even more future come the deadline.

I don't however think you'll try and move Vanek unless you are well out of the playoff picture come late February, which would shock me. This move may make it more difficult to acquire defensive / goaltending help, but we will see.
- nfph

the 2nd rounder is 2015

the 2nd rounder is 2015
- LetsGoIsles

Ah, missed that. Not earth shattering though.

Ah, missed that. Not earth shattering though.
- nfph

nope...just clarifying

EDIT: fair deal for both teams...isles want to win now or soon...sabres are about to go through a rebuild. the picks arent going to be seen on NHL ice for 3-4 years (or so)

nope...just clarifying

EDIT: fair deal for both teams...isles want to win now or soon...sabres are about to go through a rebuild. the picks arent going to be seen on NHL ice for 3-4 years (or so)
- LetsGoIsles

We're playing all 4 of our first rounders from the past two seasons, 3 look pretty good too.

Fml

Edit: that new barn is sick, by the way. I think it'll be a huge lift for the franchise.

We're playing all 4 of our first rounders from the past two seasons, 3 look pretty good too.

Fml

Edit: that new barn is sick, by the way. I think it'll be a huge lift for the franchise.
- nfph

3-4 years...

1st rounder (3 years): all of this year, next year (most 15-20 1st rounders dont play the year they are drafted), maybe the year after that "he" will hit the ice, most like 2016
2nd rounder (4 years), all of this year, next year, 2015 he gets drafted (most likely wont play for at least that year, prob 2)

either way...both teams got assets they needed. isles are better today and sabres are stockpiling picks...17 1st and 2nd round picks from now till 2015

I would personally rather have Moulson than Vanek straight up.
- MapleLeafsFTW

Moulson is only decent because he plays with JT...
It is scary to think what JT and Vanek do together...
Terrible, terrible trade for Isles if Vanek doesn't resign.

Moulson is only decent because he plays with JT...
It is scary to think what JT and Vanek do together...
Terrible, terrible trade for Isles if Vanek doesn't resign.
- BoBBeR56

Well we will get a chance to see. Clearly Hodgson isn't in the same class at JT, but if Moulson can make a living cleaning up garbage in front of the net there's no good reason to think he'll completely forget how to do it here. I'd be insane not to anticipate a drop in production given his new linemates, but he should still be able to put up some kind of production here.

Great move for both teams . Islanders get an elite winger to work with JT . The Sabres get the draft picks to continue the rebuild plus a good player to fill the roster spot left by Vanek . That is what good hockey trades are all about . I hope Vanek appreciates what the Islanders gave up for him . And if all goes well he resigns there . Then everyone wins

Great move for both teams . Islanders get an elite winger to work with JT . The Sabres get the draft picks to continue the rebuild plus a good player to fill the roster spot left by Vanek . That is what good hockey trades are all about . I hope Vanek appreciates what the Islanders gave up for him . And if all goes well he resigns there . Then everyone wins
- Maximum Signal

Great points! If Vanek gives it a chance, he is in a great spot! Things will only get better for the Islanders. The best prospects are not even on the team yet. The new building in Brooklyn should also be able to attract other top players.

Come deadline you will probably be without a 1st rounder for the next 2 years if you acquire a goalie, just think priority should have been defense or goaltending

Come deadline you will probably be without a 1st rounder for the next 2 years if you acquire a goalie, just think priority should have been defense or goaltending
- cranford93

Dont need a goalie right now.. need D... either way if its another 1st rounder that brings it here... so be it.

XxNYIxX

Come deadline you will probably be without a 1st rounder for the next 2 years if you acquire a goalie, just think priority should have been defense or goaltending
- cranford93

and??

they already have too many prospects in the system...2 more doesnt help that problem.

and??

they already have too many prospects in the system...2 more doesnt help that problem.
- LetsGoIsles

Yea but in that case draft picks are like cash to buy the assets you need. And you spend a good about of that "cash" on Vanek and are not left with much "cash" to trade for defense and goaltending. I think that's more his point. But I do like the point someone else mad. Worst case if you're out of it by the deadline, you can always trade him at the deadline and recoup some of that back.

Yea but in that case draft picks are like cash to buy the assets you need. And you spend a good about of that "cash" on Vanek and are not left with much "cash" to trade for defense and goaltending. I think that's more his point. But I do like the point someone else mad. Worst case if you're out of it by the deadline, you can always trade him at the deadline and recoup some of that back.
- mrhattrick27

that is true...it was a hefty price...a calculated risk. if he resigns it was well worth it.

You all clearly got the best player in the deal, and a guy that will solidify your top-6 tremendously. I think Vanek will be under less pressure, physically and performance-wise in the Island which should be a boon to him.

I always liked Vanek, even if I was frustrated with him from time to time. I expect him to tear it up with JT and wish him all the best. I personally plan to give him a standing ovation next time he's in the building - I do hope they do more for Vanek than they did for Pomminville this year.

All that said, this was also a solid deal for the Sabres. We essentially got 2 good picks in next years' draft and a stopgap replacement for Vanek for the rest of this brutal season. There wasn't really anyone ready for that top-3 role on our team, so the Moulson pickup is important in that light. I don't think we will make any serious attempt to resign him, and may move him on for even more future come the deadline.

I don't however think you'll try and move Vanek unless you are well out of the playoff picture come late February, which would shock me. This move may make it more difficult to acquire defensive / goaltending help, but we will see.
- nfph

I hope the Sabres try to resign Moulson, he is a great player for the right price.

I would personally rather have Moulson than Vanek straight up.
- MapleLeafsFTW

Well that just proves you're an absolute moron

Come deadline you will probably be without a 1st rounder for the next 2 years if you acquire a goalie, just think priority should have been defense or goaltending
- cranford93

Thanks bud.

Just wait until you get one taste of Vanek's slapper and you won't be complaining... that is, if the Isles make the playoffs.

Vanek was the best player in this deal. The picks might have indicated a high price, but if the Isles rebuild is truly over, Vanek could be a crucial player.
- BuffaJoe

Agreed. The price is high but if it works out it's a great deal for us. High risk high reward.