AngryWhiteMale
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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Beef, Chicken, Steak, Shrimp, Pink, all an absolute treat. - Bigzby
Wash 'em all down with a coke. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Bozak is out for 10 games?? - faceto27
sry at least 7-10 days...I am just being hopeful its more |
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Bigzby
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Location: Inside Candymouth, NV Joined: 07.06.2011
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Wash 'em all down with a coke. - AngryWhiteMale
And a tasty empanada. Yummmmmm |
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faceto27
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Location: Burke: Best part of today is I Joined: 01.21.2010
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my one concern is that maybe he is looking better because he finally have forward team mates capable of playing strong defense.
Bolland shadowing the oppositions best for example.. it may make Dion look better since he is being properly supported when it comes to team D - Dozzer
That applies to all defensemen Dozzer........ I don't care how good one may be defensively, but if the forwards don't come back, then the reincarnation of Scott Stevens won't help.
The defensemen are only as good as the forwards who come back to help them out. |
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ThePresident
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Location: NY Joined: 12.08.2010
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Yes because 30 is wall for all players. Once the hit 30 all skill and endurance are completely gone. There are way too many fans on here that think all players careers are done once they hit 30. - vermie22
Nah, but I see him declining after 33....which means we'd be stuck with a contract of 7.1 per after that for 4 years. I'd be ok with the contract if it was 4-5 years in duration. |
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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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sry at least 7-10 days...I am just being hopeful its more  - senstroll
oh right he is just IR, not LTIR |
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clark_griswold
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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um... no, 4 points in 1 game. PPG in each of the last 4.
And yes, look at that, capable of 4 pts in a single game. Something Bozak is not!
and not saying he's awesome, just better than Bozak at every single facet of the game, now including faceoffs. - Big_Lightnin
he's a dumb hockey player, who is awful defensively. Hence, -10 in the playoffs. There's a reason bozak CONSISTENTLY leads the forwards in ice time on this team, unless you think carlyle is an idiot?
Bozak does so much more for the leafs (not saying another team, but with our roster) than grabo does it's not funny. And let's see how the face off #s look at year end. The last thing the leafs need is offense, which is all grabo can do. |
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Leaffan8113
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Location: "Quit listening to Dreger. He', ON Joined: 01.10.2012
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um... no, 4 points in 1 game. PPG in each of the last 4.
And yes, look at that, capable of 4 pts in a single game. Something Bozak is not!
and not saying he's awesome, just better than Bozak at every single facet of the game, now including faceoffs. - Big_Lightnin
to be fair bozak goes against the other teams 1st line centers who are usually their best faceoff centers while grabo doesn't, pretty sure he's playing on the third line for the caps. |
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faceto27
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Location: Burke: Best part of today is I Joined: 01.21.2010
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oh right he is just IR, not LTIR - Big_Lightnin
poop.......... you had me all excited
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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That applies to all defensemen Dozzer........ I don't care how good one may be defensively, but if the forwards don't come back, then the reincarnation of Scott Stevens won't help.
The defensemen are only as good as the forwards who come back to help them out. - faceto27
Stevens had a great system to play in Jersey. Helps big time. |
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clark_griswold
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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Nah, but I see him declining after 33....which means we'd be stuck with a contract of 7.1 per after that for 4 years. I'd be ok with the contract if it was 4-5 years in duration. - ThePresident
actually offensively players tail off after 27, but as for defensive dmen they actually get better around 27-28 and play well into their 30s. Dion will regress offensively for sure, but his D will only get more sound as he tries to do less. |
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Leaffan8113
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Location: "Quit listening to Dreger. He', ON Joined: 01.10.2012
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he's a dumb hockey player, who is awful defensively. Hence, -10 in the playoffs. There's a reason bozak CONSISTENTLY leads the forwards in ice time on this team, unless you think carlyle is an idiot?
Bozak does so much more for the leafs (not saying another team, but with our roster) than grabo does it's not funny. And let's see how the face off #s look at year end. The last thing the leafs need is offense, which is all grabo can do. - clark_griswold
agreed. my only complain with bozie is he forces passes to much when he should just drive the net hard or just throw a low shot on net. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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That applies to all defensemen Dozzer........ I don't care how good one may be defensively, but if the forwards don't come back, then the reincarnation of Scott Stevens won't help.
The defensemen are only as good as the forwards who come back to help them out. - faceto27
lol.... I am aware of that.. really i am not that stupid.
now where did I put that rattlesnake?
*snaps fingers*
right! in the dryer! |
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Big_Lightnin
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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he's a dumb hockey player, who is awful defensively. Hence, -10 in the playoffs. There's a reason bozak CONSISTENTLY leads the forwards in ice time on this team, unless you think carlyle is an idiot?
Bozak does so much more for the leafs (not saying another team, but with our roster) than grabo does it's not funny. And let's see how the face off #s look at year end. The last thing the leafs need is offense, which is all grabo can do. - clark_griswold
ya... cause he used to win faceoffs. that's it.
Grabo was -10 in the playoffs cause he was put out with checkers to try and shutdown he Krecji line, and he's not a checking center. Kulemin was -9 and he's the best defensive forward on the team after McClement.
Grabo is better defensively than Bozak. Carlyle thinks so too, that's why Grabo got all the defensive starts. (obviously Bozak being on KEssel's line has to do with this as well).
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Woderwick
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Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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It becomes a massive overpayment in a few years. That is the problem. - ThePresident
How do you know that? He's 28. If they got 6 great years on an 8 year deal out of him we'd be elated. |
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clark_griswold
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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agreed. my only complain with bozie is he forces passes to much when he should just drive the net hard or just throw a low shot on net. - Leaffan8113
but that's where his limitations lie. He is a shrimp, that much i'll admit |
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Bigzby
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Location: Inside Candymouth, NV Joined: 07.06.2011
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to be fair bozak goes against the other teams 1st line centers who are usually their best faceoff centers while grabo doesn't, pretty sure he's playing on the third line for the caps. - Leaffan8113
It cant be the third line. RC was an idiot for playing him on the 3rd. Mr Oates would never be that stupid. |
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clark_griswold
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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ya... cause he used to win faceoffs. that's it.
Grabo was -10 in the playoffs cause he was put out with checkers to try and shutdown he Krecji line, and he's not a checking center. Kulemin was -9 and he's the best defensive forward on the team after McClement.
Grabo is better defensively than Bozak. Carlyle thinks so too, that's why Grabo got all the defensive starts. - Big_Lightnin
you mean, because bozak was hurt for game 6 and 7? |
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peddy-93
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Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON Joined: 06.08.2012
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he's a dumb hockey player, who is awful defensively. Hence, -10 in the playoffs. There's a reason bozak CONSISTENTLY leads the forwards in ice time on this team, unless you think carlyle is an idiot?
Bozak does so much more for the leafs (not saying another team, but with our roster) than grabo does it's not funny. And let's see how the face off #s look at year end. The last thing the leafs need is offense, which is all grabo can do. - clark_griswold
Kadri has a better FO % than Bozak, and is better defensively too.
And if offense is all Grabo can do, why did he have practically 80% defensive zone starts? |
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peddy-93
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Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON Joined: 06.08.2012
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ya... cause he used to win faceoffs. that's it.
Grabo was -10 in the playoffs cause he was put out with checkers to try and shutdown he Krecji line, and he's not a checking center. Kulemin was -9 and he's the best defensive forward on the team after McClement.
Grabo is better defensively than Bozak. Carlyle thinks so too, that's why Grabo got all the defensive starts. (obviously Bozak being on KEssel's line has to do with this as well). - Big_Lightnin
I got you, bro. |
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Big_Lightnin
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Location: Pain is coming Joined: 08.12.2010
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you mean, because bozak was hurt for game 6 and 7? - clark_griswold
no I mean the entire season, when Carlyle used him as a checking center against other teams top lines for defensive zone starts every chance he got.
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peddy-93
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Location: Bernier is better than Reimer, Reimer is better than Bernier - #TOproblems, ON Joined: 06.08.2012
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you mean, because bozak was hurt for game 6 and 7? - clark_griswold
What about games 1-5? |
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clark_griswold
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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ya... cause he used to win faceoffs. that's it.
Grabo was -10 in the playoffs cause he was put out with checkers to try and shutdown he Krecji line, and he's not a checking center. Kulemin was -9 and he's the best defensive forward on the team after McClement.
Grabo is better defensively than Bozak. Carlyle thinks so too, that's why Grabo got all the defensive starts. (obviously Bozak being on KEssel's line has to do with this as well). - Big_Lightnin
pretty sure carlyle had ALOT of influence in keeping bozak over grabo. Nonis all but alluded to that fact. Or you can just check their ice time from last year. |
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MTL1
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Location: Brampton, ON Joined: 06.30.2006
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Dion may very well be worth the $7M - but only for the next 2 maybe 3 seasons - perhaps 4 pushing it - it will be a giant albatross of a contract in years 5 through 8
and this is where Leafs Management will have to make a big decision over the next few months |
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Bigzby
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Location: Inside Candymouth, NV Joined: 07.06.2011
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Dion may very well be worth the $7M - but only for the next 2 maybe 3 seasons - perhaps 4 pushing it - it will be a giant albatross of a contract in years 5 through 8 - MTL1
We'll trade him to Vancouver for Luongo lol |
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