Edmonton was about to throw stupid money at Clarkson, so if Phaneuf goes to FA i see Edmonton backing up the truck.

Sorry, but don't you think Regier phoned 29 other GM's and offered Vanek to everyone??? That's their job. Doesn't seem news worthy.

If Phaneuf gets that much that GM should be immediately fired.
- Iggysbff

You're right. An Oiler's rebuild is the only way to rebuild properly.

Not a (frank)ing chance!
- Iggysbff

Wouldnt be surprised. Edmonton gave 6 million to a 12 year old center

at least, some say upwards to 76
- Barx

That's encouraging. Though, we have some UFAs/RFAs to re-sign (or not): Bolland, McClemment, Raymond, Kulemin, Franson, Gardiner, Fraser, Ranger.

Unless Kulemin takes a pay cut, and Ranger vastly improves his game, both will be gone. And Bolland, Fraser, McClemment and Raymond will all want raises...

But if we can get Phaneuf at around 6.5, I think that leaves us with quite a bit of room to maneuver.

im not knocking you, but corsi=gayyyyyy. Franson plays against much weaker competition.

PS, i stopped reading at 'corsi'
- clark_griswold

Have you ever heard of Corsi Relative to Quality of Competition?? The fact that you stopped reading at Corsi makes me think no.

Another one.
- peddy-93

Same team as the other guy.

That awkward moment when Edmonton offered more money to Clarkson than the Leafs did..
- jbold

With less term....

Your GM would love to sign him for 7 too.
- TonkaPhaneuf

Their GM doesn't turn his phone on. Happy poopting the bed intentionally for a few more years to solidify that top 6 come draft time. You actually think their GM turns up to work????

Have you ever heard of Corsi Relative to Quality of Competition?? The fact that you stopped reading at Corsi makes me think no.
- mfreedman

Did you see the interview where JVR said he didnt even know what corsi was? Its irrrelevant to the players that actually play the game. It seems to be used by fans so they can argue over dumb things.

That's encouraging. Though, we have some UFAs/RFAs to re-sign (or not): Bolland, McClemment, Raymond, Kulemin, Franson, Gardiner, Fraser, Ranger.

Unless Kulemin takes a pay cut, and Ranger vastly improves his game, both will be gone. And Bolland, Fraser, McClemment and Raymond will all want raises...

But if we can get Phaneuf at around 6.5, I think that leaves us with quite a bit of room to maneuver.
- jnwood2517

I'm gonna bet Bolland and McClemment are resigned.

Same team as the other guy.
- burn

And a team that has like no defencemen

Their GM doesn't turn his phone on. Happy poopting the bed intentionally for a few more years to solidify that top 6 come draft time. You actually think their GM turns up to work????
- walshyleafsfan

Shhhhh he's napping

Edmonton was about to throw stupid money at Clarkson, so if Phaneuf goes to FA i see Edmonton backing up the truck.
- 13LEAFS01

If he doesnt resign with the Leafs, I dont see him landing back in Alberta. His wife was born there, not sure how much of her family is there, considering her family moved to Quebec when she was young, but stuff like this is always a factor...... but a happy wife is a happy life. I think he resigns. Dion and his wife spend the off season in PEI so thats probably not a factor

You're right. An Oiler's rebuild is the only way to rebuild properly.
- walshyleafsfan

Leaf fans are (frank)ing hilarious. No where did I mention anything about the Oilers. No where did I slag Nonis for not picking up Vanek. No where did I say anything bad about the Leafs.

And yet a bunch of you jump in and start dumping poop about the Oilers and blah blah blah...

(frank)ing typical....

Go back and read my post again. Vanek being offered to anyone else is hardly newsworthy.... It happens with every trade.

Have you ever heard of Corsi Relative to Quality of Competition?? The fact that you stopped reading at Corsi makes me think no.
- mfreedman

corsi stats are useless. I have heard of them and let me tell you, if you think you can justify a roster decision based on some numbers that a nerd came up with in his parent's basement instead of real tangibles, you'd be mistaken. Dion is consistently in the top of the league in minutes, hits and since he came into the league, he is top or top 3 in D scoring (huge debate over that in this thread the other day).

Dion is a rock who obviously makes mistakes as he plays so often against top end players. He is also a high risk/reward player so again he will make mistakes.

He is physical, provides offense and plays half the game. He may not put up as much offense as he did when he was younger, but he was a nightmare defensively when he was younger; i'll take that trade off any day. As he gets older he will continue to get better defensively (probably regress offensively but again, i'll take that).

Our d corps without him would be horrendous defensively, and there are no UFAs available and no top D available, I don't care what you offer. So to your point, i'll take tangibles over Corsi anyday.

I'm gonna bet Bolland and McClemment are resigned.
- Barx

For sure. Carlyle loves them. Need Franson too. All depends on how much the cap goes up. Do we have any one coming off the books this summer?

Did you see the interview where JVR said he didnt even know what corsi was? Its irrrelevant to the players that actually play the game. It seems to be used by fans so they can argue over dumb things.
- TonkaPhaneuf

Thank you! i've often said corsi is for nerds who never played. I wasn't a superstar but played Junior and let me tell you, intagibles trump stats any day.

Max is 7 years going to a different team. Or 8 years if you resign with the team you currently play for.
- TonkaPhaneuf

Ah ok. Weird rule but ok

Leaf fans are (frank)ing hilarious. No where did I mention anything about the Oilers. No where did I slag Nonis for not picking up Vanek. No where did I say anything bad about the Leafs.

And yet a bunch of you jump in and start dumping poop about the Oilers and blah blah blah...

(frank)ing typical....

Go back and read my post again. Vanek being offered to anyone else is hardly newsworthy.... It happens with every trade.
- Iggysbff

Calm down. Don't get all pissy. Don't walk into the LEafs thread and be suprised we are all '(frank)ing hilarious'. And please watch your language. There is no need.

Leaf fans are (frank)ing hilarious. No where did I mention anything about the Oilers. No where did I slag Nonis for not picking up Vanek. No where did I say anything bad about the Leafs.

And yet a bunch of you jump in and start dumping poop about the Oilers and blah blah blah...

(frank)ing typical....

Go back and read my post again. Vanek being offered to anyone else is hardly newsworthy.... It happens with every trade.
- Iggysbff

It's useless to tell them to go back and read they don't know how. They turn a blind eye and see what they want to see

For sure. Carlyle loves them. Need Franson too. All depends on how much the cap goes up. Do we have any one coming off the books this summer?
- peddy-93

Tucker and Armstrong

Leaf fans are (frank)ing hilarious. No where did I mention anything about the Oilers. No where did I slag Nonis for not picking up Vanek. No where did I say anything bad about the Leafs.

And yet a bunch of you jump in and start dumping poop about the Oilers and blah blah blah...

(frank)ing typical....

Go back and read my post again. Vanek being offered to anyone else is hardly newsworthy.... It happens with every trade.
- Iggysbff

I'm sure he was referring to your Phaneuf comment. People judge Phaneufs play without even watching the guy. I'm sure most of you just think he sucks cuz he was voted most over-rated?

Tucker and Armstrong
- 10baci

final-(frank)ing-ly

With less term....
- Iggysbff

If a report says he turned down more money, they are definitely not talking about cap hit.

Smarten up.

Actually scratch that, even says 7 years http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...utbid-leafs-for-clarkson/

It's useless to tell them to go back and read they don't know how. They turn a blind eye and see what they want to see
- Killbot460

I have a great idea. Go to your own thread and talk about how little Leaf fans know. You're just being a useless troll here.

I don't make a habit of pooping on people, but you guys are really a joke.