Just an FYI Downie has 14 goals in his last 77 games.
- PLindbergh31

how many assists?

EDIT: Because Im pretty sure Joe Thornton is probably close to that in goals as well..not comparing the two though.. just saying goals dont paint a whole picture..

14 goals and 32 assists.. 12 assists...

ja, back during the Carle Era
- BulliesPhan87

Mind letting Carchidi and the inquirer know that?

http://mobile.philly.com/...lyersreport/&id=230074101

Edit: I know it's not a big deal, but it's not that hard, is it?

just trying to stir it around
- wilsonecho91

and around. and aroooooound. and when you've run out of fingers, move on to vegetables.

how many assists?

EDIT: Because Im pretty sure Joe Thornton is probably close to that in goals as well..
- jak521

28. While the Flyers are in desperate need for offense, they should have tried to acquire someone with a little more discipline. Flyers are the most penalized team in the NHL, and business is about to pick up.

So being they will be shorthanded more often now, they just traded one of their top PK guys. So this trade kind of defeats the purpose.

So maybe thats why they moved Talbot.. because they dont wanna pay Talbot next year for a role that they have younger guys ready to step into.
- jak521

This. ^

Mind letting Carchidi and the inquirer know that?

http://mobile.philly.com/...lyersreport/&id=230074101

Edit: I know it's not a big deal, but it's not that hard, is it?
- funmaster18

Wait.. he said the Flyers have reacquired former players in recent years... and listed Therien and Mark Greig

Him no score him useless?
- jmatchett383

Him no score, him no win face-offs, him no drive play, him no shutdown opposing forwards. Him no worth 1.75 mil.

downie back on the flyers oh this will be great
hartnell gone?

Wait.. he said the Flyers have reacquired former players in recent years... and listed Therien and Mark Greig
- jak521

Are you serious?? I stopped reading after "Sam Carchdi"

Edit: they recently reacquired Bernie parent

28. While the Flyers are in desperate need for offense, they should have tried to acquire someone with a little more discipline. Flyers are the most penalized team in the NHL, and business is about to pick up.

So being they will be shorthanded more often now, they just traded one of their top PK guys. So this trade kind of defeats the purpose.
- PLindbergh31

He is a the least a bonefide top 9 player.. who seems to get a lot of top line time. Hoepfully he does well with G and VL...

Are you serious?? I stopped reading after "Sam Carchdi"
- funmaster18

i couldnt look away.. train wreck

what if this is just a red herring and they are going to package Downie in another deal?

Alright, I have to go to a meeting and try to be serious.

Him no score, him no win face-offs, him no drive play, him no shutdown opposing forwards. Him no worth 1.75 mil.
- psuhockey

Steve Downie isn't worth 1.75 mil?

I like the trade ... though Downie seems too much of a Rinaldo for me. Is there really a need for 2 of these kind of players?

trade Rinaldo and bring back McGinn.

Him no score him useless?
- jmatchett383

Have to get used to that mindset. For most fans it's all about offense and goals. It's how players are looked at. It's how prospective line combos are put together. And if players are worth their salaries. All based on goals and offense, for forwards. The other side of the game doesn't exist for some.

what if this is just a red herring and they are going to package Downie in another deal?

Alright, I have to go to a meeting and try to be serious.
- wilsonecho91

Maybe its not Downie they are going to move, but another guy..

I wouldnt be totally blown away if one of the other younger forwards were moved... seems like a total Homer move.

He is a the least a bonefide top 9 player.. who seems to get a lot of top line time. Hoepfully he does well with G and VL...
- jak521

He's an upgrade to Talbot offensively, not questioning that. Calling a guy with one 40+ point season a bonafide top 9 player is somewhat of a stretch.

I like the trade ... though Downie seems too much of a Rinaldo for me. Is there really a need for 2 of these kind of players?

trade Rinaldo and bring back McGinn.

- FlyerGuy

There really isnt any similarity between Downie and Rinaldo. The only thing you can even get close to is that they both tend to get out of control at times.

Maybe its not Downie they are going to move, but another guy..

I wouldnt be totally blown away if one of the other younger forwards were moved... seems like a total Homer move.
- jak521

I'm absolutely expecting that, which worries me

downie back on the flyers oh this will be great
hartnell gone?
- 2Real

We can only dream

Maybe its not Downie they are going to move, but another guy..

I wouldnt be totally blown away if one of the other younger forwards were moved... seems like a total Homer move.
- jak521

Honestly, I'm kinda shocked it wasn't more of a blockbuster panic move, a la B. Schenn for some guy.

There really isnt any similarity between Downie and Rinaldo. The only thing you can even get close to is that they both tend to get out of control at times.
- jak521

well, yeah ... that was what I was referring to.

Maybe its not Downie they are going to move, but another guy..

I wouldnt be totally blown away if one of the other younger forwards were moved... seems like a total Homer move.
- jak521

I wouldn't be surprised either. An aspect of the trade that hasn't been mentioned is it could give them the ability to trade a forward for a defenseman. Also adds to tagging space. Although that's not a big issue right now.

Honestly, I'm kinda shocked it wasn't more of a blockbuster panic move, a la B. Schenn for some guy.
- jmatchett383

theres plenty of time for that

Have to get used to that mindset. For most fans it's all about offense and goals. It's how players are looked at. It's how prospective line combos are put together. And if players are worth their salaries. All based on goals and offense, for forwards. The other side of the game doesn't exist for some.
- MJL

Hypothetically speaking, say Downie doesn't play particularly well and he's not re-signed, Flyers miss the playoffs. Basically they just gave a cost controlled solid role player away for nothing. Right?