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JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Nov 3 @ 8:17 PM ET
i'm still willing to give schenn and coots time to develop but it's a matter of how much
- 2Real

Who... who are you? Where's 2Real?
KlausFlouride
Joined: 11.03.2013

Nov 3 @ 8:18 PM ET
im sorry this comment has nothing to do with your recent blog.

PAUL HOLMGREN should write a book,entitled,


How To DisMantle a Stanley Cup Finalist In Three Years

PLEASE Mr. Meltzer write something exposing this robot ex-goon turned general manager, handpick by Big Ed, to join his all boys club of ex-flyers.
You Don't need hindsight to see the GRIEVOUS errors Holmgren's made with this team.
How much deeper must this team fall, before Holmgren's cut loose back into the wild.
I mean, what's his next move, trade Giroux for Mark Fraser, who knows maybe Mark has a younger brother Paul can find that sucks too. Philly deserves better...HEXTALL.............
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 3 @ 8:21 PM ET
im sorry this comment has nothing to do with your recent blog.

PAUL HOLMGREN should write a book,entitled,


How To DisMantle a Stanley Cup Finalist In Three Years

PLEASE Mr. Meltzer write something exposing this robot ex-goon turned general manager, handpick by Big Ed, to join his all boys club of ex-flyers.
You Don't need hindsight to see the GRIEVOUS errors Holmgren's made with this team.
How much deeper must this team fall, before Holmgren's cut loose back into the wild.
I mean, what's his next move, trade Giroux for Mark Fraser, who knows maybe Mark has a younger brother Paul can find that sucks too. Philly deserves better...HEXTALL.............

- KlausFlouride


Yeah, because there's no way that Ron Hextall would do whatever Snider tells him to do.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Nov 3 @ 8:22 PM ET
im sorry this comment has nothing to do with your recent blog.

PAUL HOLMGREN should write a book,entitled,


How To DisMantle a Stanley Cup Finalist In Three Years

PLEASE Mr. Meltzer write something exposing this robot ex-goon turned general manager, handpick by Big Ed, to join his all boys club of ex-flyers.
You Don't need hindsight to see the GRIEVOUS errors Holmgren's made with this team.
How much deeper must this team fall, before Holmgren's cut loose back into the wild.
I mean, what's his next move, trade Giroux for Mark Fraser, who knows maybe Mark has a younger brother Paul can find that sucks too. Philly deserves better...HEXTALL.............

- KlausFlouride


I wonder who's alt this is
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 3 @ 8:22 PM ET
im sorry this comment has nothing to do with your recent blog.

PAUL HOLMGREN should write a book,entitled,


How To DisMantle a Stanley Cup Finalist In Three Years

PLEASE Mr. Meltzer write something exposing this robot ex-goon turned general manager, handpick by Big Ed, to join his all boys club of ex-flyers.
You Don't need hindsight to see the GRIEVOUS errors Holmgren's made with this team.
How much deeper must this team fall, before Holmgren's cut loose back into the wild.
I mean, what's his next move, trade Giroux for Mark Fraser, who knows maybe Mark has a younger brother Paul can find that sucks too. Philly deserves better...HEXTALL.............

- KlausFlouride


RAHN HECKSDOLL 4 GEE EM

HE'LL SOLVE ERTHANG
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Nov 3 @ 8:23 PM ET
Philly deserves better...HEXTALL.............
- KlausFlouride


Yes lets promote yet another Flyers Culture guy..
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:25 PM ET
Final

Peterborough - 3
Oshawa - 5

Laughton with 2 goals & 3 assists
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 3 @ 8:26 PM ET
Final

Peterborough - 3
Oshawa - 5

Laughton with 2 goals & 3 assists

- ob18


That young man is going to make somebody on the NHL roster expendable who maybe thought they weren't.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:27 PM ET
That young man is going to make somebody on the NHL roster expendable who maybe thought they weren't.
- AllInForFlyers


his 1st goal and his 1st assist were of the highlight variety
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:29 PM ET
Who... who are you? Where's 2Real?
- JAKEw1234

hating on fraude giroux
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:29 PM ET
Final

Peterborough - 3
Oshawa - 5

Laughton with 2 goals & 3 assists

- ob18

one good think about him in the OHL is that he'll build confidence if he was on the flyers this year i think he'd get destroyed
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:30 PM ET
one good think about him in the OHL is that he'll build confidence if he was on the flyers this year i think he'd get destroyed
- 2Real


Another way to look at it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 3 @ 8:32 PM ET
one good think about him in the OHL is that he'll build confidence if he was on the flyers this year i think he'd get destroyed
- 2Real


Wait...did Nick Foles' 7 TD's do something to you? You're like...rational sounding.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Nov 3 @ 8:34 PM ET
his 1st goal and his 1st assist were of the highlight variety
- ob18


I know he's older than a decent amount of the players he's playing against and that he's too advanced for the league, but I do believe that he's tapping into potential that maybe, just maybe, he didn't even know he had.

It's one thing to go back to the OHL and be the best player. But he's pretty much terrorizing that league, and I do think that matters.

Please, Hockey Gods. Let it matter.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:35 PM ET
I know he's older than a decent amount of the players he's playing against and that he's too advanced for the league, but I do believe that he's tapping into potential that maybe, just maybe, he didn't even know he had.

It's one thing to go back to the OHL and be the best player. But he's pretty much terrorizing that league, and I do think that matters.

Please, Hockey Gods. Let it matter.

- AllInForFlyers


His line is money.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:39 PM ET
L Schenn is a bust at this point in his career. I would take any first round pick for him.
- Just5

He's 24. A lot of young defensemen are just beginning to play regularly in the NHL at that point. Why are you so sure he's done developing and that last year's progress was the mirage and this is the genuine top you can expect?
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:41 PM ET
Yes lets promote yet another Flyers Culture guy..
- opeth_pa

Funny. That's the first time I've heard that here. And not that I don't love Hexy, but…

Also, being asst GM to Lombardi doesn't mean he's guaranteed to become Lombardi when he becomes a GM.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:44 PM ET
Funny. That's the first time I've heard that here. And not that I don't love Hexy, but…

Also, being asst GM to Lombardi doesn't mean he's guaranteed to become Lombardi when he becomes a GM.

- bodiva88


He has a good shot at becoming it here, I'd likely go with Paul Fenton (Nashville)
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:46 PM ET
He has a good shot at becoming it here, I'd likely go with Paul Fenton (Nashville)
- ob18

I'm sure he'll be next GM. I'm not sure he'll be able to overcome the Snider influence. Like him. Like his attitude about front office work (which I'm sorry I never wrote up, seems late to do now, though). Just worn down by Ed.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:47 PM ET
I'm sure he'll be next GM. I'm not sure he'll be able to overcome the Snider influence. Like him. Like his attitude about front office work (which I'm sorry I never wrote up, seems late to do now, though). Just worn down by Ed.
- bodiva88


I'd imagine much of the fan base is worn down by Ed.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 3 @ 8:52 PM ET
Wait...did Nick Foles' 7 TD's do something to you? You're like...rational sounding.
- Jsaquella

i'm getting (frank)ing old
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 3 @ 9:04 PM ET
I do kinda wonder if he's a little gun-shy on those particular players...I mean, the guy is human. Yeah, we all want to believe that it shouldn't matter, but holy hell, you know it burns a little that Carter was able to mope his way out of Columbus, get to LA...and those bastards win the Cup as a freaking 8-seed.

He wouldn't be human if that didn't burn a little, even though those circumstances were bizarre.

- AllInForFlyers

I don't think he's gunshy at all. But I don't think he wants to make cents on the dollar moves for good players because other GMs see him as desperate. This is not a time the Flyers can deal from a position of strength.

I've said before if they don't think the move will be a reasonable return, they should wait for the trade deadline to get more value for the older guys they don't want back, then make strategic moves after the draft (both trades and signings).
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Nov 3 @ 9:09 PM ET
I don't think he's gunshy at all. But I don't think he wants to make cents on the dollar moves for good players because other GMs see him as desperate. This is not a time the Flyers can deal from a position of strength.

I've said before if they don't think the move will be a reasonable return, they should wait for the trade deadline to get more value for the older guys they don't want back, then make strategic moves after the draft (both trades and signings).

- bodiva88


My worry, as somebody said on the Twitter, is that bad value trades are starting to become the norm for the Flyers...
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Nov 3 @ 9:10 PM ET
He's 24. A lot of young defensemen are just beginning to play regularly in the NHL at that point. Why are you so sure he's done developing and that last year's progress was the mirage and this is the genuine top you can expect?
- bodiva88


What are we waiting for him to develop into? Adam McQuaid? Sean O'Donnell?

His game is out there on the free agent market every summer, go sign that guy, give me a good pick(s) for him its at all possible.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Nov 3 @ 9:19 PM ET
I think with all the player movement that has happened in the past three seasons, I would implore Holmgren/Hextall not to do anything drastic. Let these guys get out of this hole themselves, not dig it deeper by giving up on them.

I mean seriously, 2012 was an aberration it seems. What did people honestly expect to happen once you give up two leading scorers who in their prime for younger players, including a nineteen-year-old that came out of a draft right away?

Of course this team was going downhill, but they should be climbing back up the mountain pretty soon.
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