mikel33
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Location: United States, NJ Joined: 08.09.2007
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I was looking up Eberle to get a feel for what kind of player he was, the first thing I came to was:
The Front Line: It's time to cut ties with Giroux, Eberle
Tuesday, 11.05.2013 / 12:00 PM / Fantasy Hockey Draft Rankings, Advice and Analysis
By Matt Cubeta - NHL.com Fantasy Insider
Edit: Correction... this is good news I think.. If he's not playing well it only lowers his price. I think he can be a good fit here. |
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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I guess I disagree because you need stay at home defensemen and those are our best 2 right now. Besides who could live life without Coburn's nose? Or Grossmann's looming shadow blocking shots! - FlyersGrace
Schenn can learn |
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mcefalu
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Location: I never back-read, IL Joined: 07.11.2008
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No, you're fine -- first of all, I'm glad you didn't interpret what I said as an attack, because it wasn't. I'm honestly trying to find the right way to express it.
My concern with this roster as it currently stands is that of the young players we have who have notched 20-goal seasons -- particularly Simmonds, Read and Voracek -- it might be fair to ask if that is the anomaly in their careers and that they are not naturally gifted scorers at this level.
That does NOT mean that I am saying that they are not NHL players. They clearly are.
But what the Flyers are counting on them to be is consistent NHL point producers, with the key word in that being "consistent."
Consistent is the hardest thing in the world to be, especially in professional sports when other people are defending you. I think we have too many complementary scorers, not primary scorers, and we're asking them to do things they simply cannot do, whether it be due to youth, advancing age, or overrated ability.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that maybe we're asking too much of Wayne Simmonds to score 25 goals in a predictable pattern that helps the team win 38-45 games in a single season. Maybe Wayne Simmonds is a guy who will score goals in bunches because he tries hard, but doesn't have the instincts and natural finishing ability to do it when other teams are defending him closely.
Does that make more sense, for how I'm trying to explain it? - AllInForFlyers
Yes, that actually does. I definitely agree that it could be possible that a few of those younger players might not actually be able to consistently put up their prior goal totals. I would just find it really surprising if a few of those players who all had similar success one year, just lost it for good shortly after. But hey, stranger things have happened. But certainly, what we are seeing is probably a combination of what you mentioned as well as other factors.
To be clear, I'm all for making moves to try and make the team better. I am not the type to throw a fit when a trade is made because like many others have also mentioned, I want to see how it pans out before making a strong opinion.
And I'd also like to point out that I by no means think this team has the offensive skill to make a playoff run, if even make the playoffs at all. But the Flyers current struggling offense at the moment is more than alarming. I just think it has more to do with forward players and their inconsistencies, but like I said, I agree that could be a significant part of it
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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do NOT trade picks....esp the first or second rounder. I repeat do NOT trade picks - nastyflyergirl
it'd be a disgrace to trade our 1st/2nd this year |
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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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do NOT trade picks....esp the first or second rounder. I repeat do NOT trade picks - nastyflyergirl
Why not?
Whats to say they don't win another 5 meaningless games at the end of this season and drop their position.
If you can package that for a young player like Eberle, Yakupov, insert someone else then Im all for it.
What you can't move draft picks for is someone over 30...no thanks..
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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ignoreland, GA Joined: 11.04.2005
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meant to hit this one - PhillaBully
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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ignoreland, GA Joined: 11.04.2005
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- BulliesPhan87
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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ignoreland, GA Joined: 11.04.2005
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Yes I know what a thac0 is i was just jumping on since a card carrying AD&D player also...
Hell we used a 20 sided dice to determine tie breakers in a miniature golf tournament this summer.
Lots of manly things in this post - opeth_pa
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A pall's been cast over Flyer Nation!
That rotten stench of desperation!
Trade the Schenns, strip the C!
We'd be far better off with Zarley Zalapski!
No goals, no hustle, no heart on their sleeve!
This soulless display will never reprieve!
Suggestions abound to get them on track!
Firesales, Byfuglien, call-ups, THE YAK!
But now the news is Jordan Eberle!
(I'm far too speechless to respond cleverly!)
Once again we knee-jerk react!
This team's never hired a sensible didact!
For once, my wish, is to let it ride,
Their struggle is more than a typical snide,
Hush the vehemence that's constantly shrilled,
And consider the wisdom: You never go full rebuild. |
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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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do NOT trade picks....esp the first or second rounder. I repeat do NOT trade picks - nastyflyergirl
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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I would start by offering Simmonds and Grossmann for Eberle and see how close that gets you. Edmonton need a defensman and some toughness up front. |
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jak521
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Location: Buckle Up. Joined: 02.19.2008
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A pall's been cast over Flyer Nation!
That rotten stench of desperation!
Trade the Schenns, strip the C!
We'd be far better off with Zarley Zalapski!
No goals, no hustle, no heart on their sleeve!
This soulless display will never reprieve!
Suggestions abound to get them on track!
Firesales, Byfuglien, call-ups, THE YAK!
But now the news is Jordon Eberle!
(I'm far too speechless to respond cleverly!)
Once again we knee-jerk react!
This team's never hired a sensible didact!
For once, my wish, is to let it ride,
Their struggle is more than a typical snide,
Hush the vehemence that's constantly shrilled,
And consider the wisdom: You never go full rebuild. - countreeman28
Yea.. needed this. Havent had one in a long time!
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flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: niagara falls, ON Joined: 02.05.2007
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Wouldn't kill me to see Simmonds go. Still like him but i wouldn't lose sleep - funmaster18
i would rather see hartnell go he has been in a slump since the lock out and he doesn't seem to be coming out of it soon |
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PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.20.2010
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Ah, ok. - Flyskippy
video game/ fantasy role playing chicks? (frank) yeah sign me up |
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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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I would start by offering Simmonds and Grossmann for Eberle and see how close that gets you. Edmonton need a defensman and some toughness up front. - Feanor
put hartnell in first he needs to go too |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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put hartnell in first he needs to go too - 2Real
I like Simmonds, but Hartnell is untradeable and we don't really need two top 6 wingers who can't skate or pass or stickhandle. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Hockey central is talking about the Flyers and say they are going to have someone on the show to give us insight coming straight from the top... Snider or Homer going on the show? - Hextall271
Maybe Ek? |
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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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I was looking up Eberle to get a feel for what kind of player he was, the first thing I came to was:
The Front Line: It's time to cut ties with Giroux, Eberle
Tuesday, 11.05.2013 / 12:00 PM / Fantasy Hockey Draft Rankings, Advice and Analysis
By Matt Cubeta - NHL.com Fantasy Insider
Edit: Correction... this is good news I think.. If he's not playing well it only lowers his price. I think he can be a good fit here. - mikel33
The report is he has a minor injury as his play has slumped a little and he's sat out several practices... Eberle. |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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A pall's been cast over Flyer Nation!
That rotten stench of desperation!
Trade the Schenns, strip the C!
We'd be far better off with Zarley Zalapski!
No goals, no hustle, no heart on their sleeve!
This soulless display will never reprieve!
Suggestions abound to get them on track!
Firesales, Byfuglien, call-ups, THE YAK!
But now the news is Jordan Eberle!
(I'm far too speechless to respond cleverly!)
Once again we knee-jerk react!
This team's never hired a sensible didact!
For once, my wish, is to let it ride,
Their struggle is more than a typical snide,
Hush the vehemence that's constantly shrilled,
And consider the wisdom: You never go full rebuild. - countreeman28
In my mind, I totally added a beat box over this rhyme.
Well done!
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PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.20.2010
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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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When we hang out with all our friends I stay with the guys. I talk hockey, gaming, sci-fi/fantasy books, horror films, comics, anime, etc.. I once got caught being polite while some of their girlfriends talked about their most recent purse party. My fiancee lost it. He said I looked miserable. He had no idea... - FlyersGrace
When you say fiancee above you mean me right and if not how can I make that happen ¿ |
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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ignoreland, GA Joined: 11.04.2005
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video game/ fantasy role playing chicks? (frank) yeah sign me up - PhillaBully
My wife and I have been playing Borderlands (1). I got her into the Fallout series (3, New Vegas) when we started dating and now she wants to try something else. I just walk nearby with my level 49 soldier and pick off anyone that gets too close (she's 21st level).
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KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: United States, PA Joined: 10.28.2007
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I'd be willing to give up B Schenn, Hartnell, and Grossmann. |
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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Downingtown, PA Joined: 08.16.2006
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i would rather see hartnell go he has been in a slump since the lock out and he doesn't seem to be coming out of it soon - flyer186
It's fine to pick and choose who you want to go but it's far from realistic. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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A pall's been cast over Flyer Nation!
That rotten stench of desperation!
Trade the Schenns, strip the C!
We'd be far better off with Zarley Zalapski!
No goals, no hustle, no heart on their sleeve!
This soulless display will never reprieve!
Suggestions abound to get them on track!
Firesales, Byfuglien, call-ups, THE YAK!
But now the news is Jordan Eberle!
(I'm far too speechless to respond cleverly!)
Once again we knee-jerk react!
This team's never hired a sensible didact!
For once, my wish, is to let it ride,
Their struggle is more than a typical snide,
Hush the vehemence that's constantly shrilled,
And consider the wisdom: You never go full rebuild. - countreeman28
That is damned good.
Buy yourself a beer. |
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