Leafs have been sold out for 40 years yet they've been mostly terrible. How does that saying go, something about stones and glass houses
- LeftCoaster

yeah no kidding.. the leafs sucked for year.. but in t he past 5 yearsor so they have been much more accountable... brought in players to help the future and ship out any players who wasn;t part of the future... they built a team.. not a collection of talented players.

Del Zotto, Miller, Kristo, 1st
- Ranger71

it's generous of you to offer four bodies, but it's the quality that doesn't appeal vs just have two bodies of high end talent to help edm.

ok ok ok.


SV + Matt Frattin + mid pick
- Deadmau55

no.

it's not a terrible offer.

just not enough to make us move yaks if u follow.

slava and Clifford

yks and nultz

and before we go any further. how is slava's defensive game most nights?

we need a true two way guy

Del Zotto, Miller, Kristo, 1st
- Ranger71

ok.

ill give u 5 ten dollar bills and you give me back 1 hundred dollar bill.

deal?


ay package includes at least one of mcd, staal, kreider or girardi.

no.

it's not a terrible offer.

just not enough to make us move yaks if u follow.

slava and Clifford

yks and nultz

and before we go any further. how is slava's defensive game most nights?

we need a true two way guy
- hugefemale dog77

i would not do that deal.

and I agreed.

lundqvist is hands down their best player.

as far as forwards go, nash and him are debateable.

some may say mcdonagh, I wouldn't agree, but it's certainly not a slam dunk one way or another. either way, kind of tough to compare the two players.
- hugefemale dog77

i would say he's in the debate with stepan(probably above).. but richards nash mcdonagh and lundqvist have a leg up on him.

no.

it's not a terrible offer.

just not enough to make us move yaks if u follow.

slava and Clifford

yks and nultz

and before we go any further. how is slava's defensive game most nights?

we need a true two way guy
- hugefemale dog77

He started off the season horrible, but he has improved a lot, and has a lot of room to grow. He might have the best one time shot in the league, he can tee it up. Hes a poor mans drew doughty. which says alot.

ok.

ill give u 5 ten dollar bills and you give me back 1 hundred dollar bill.

deal?


ay package includes at least one of mcd, staal, kreider or girardi.
- hugefemale dog77

Considering the way the situation is progressing I don't think you'll get equal value back for him. Who do you guys want from the NYR in a hypothetical deal, McDonagh and Kreider? Please, take Girardi, but he's a UFA. Staal I might think of dealing even though he's a rock on defense, he's only got one year left and may bolt anyways.

Considering the way the situation is progressing I don't think you'll get equal value back for him. Who do you guys want from the NYR in a hypothetical deal, McDonagh and Kreider?
- Ranger71

50 cents on the dollar may not be a bad deal at this point.

i would say he's in the debate with stepan(probably above).. but richards nash mcdonagh and lundqvist have a leg up on him.
- derm10

he's on a different level than Derek stepan.

Richards is playing good again, and is a heck of a player when he's on. but again, id say hall is ahead for sure. at the very least, id assume the two are going in opposite directions in the near future

he's on a different level than Derek stepan.

Richards is playing good again, and is a heck of a player when he's on. but again, id say hall is ahead for sure. at the very least, id assume the two are going in opposite directions in the near future
- hugefemale dog77

typical oilers fan... u can't measure things by what will happen in the future....... the fact is hall would be behind nash and richard on the forward depth chart.

Considering the way the situation is progressing I don't think you'll get equal value back for him. Who do you guys want from the NYR in a hypothetical deal, McDonagh and Kreider? Please, take Girardi, but he's a UFA. Staal I might think of dealing even though he's a rock on defense, he's only got one year left and may bolt anyways.
- Ranger71

no to staal. he probably bolts to carolina. girardi is ufa. edm would just simply wait and make a pitch to him in the off season. i wish mcdonagh and kreider, but nyr is not going to cough that up.

he's on a different level than Derek stepan.

Richards is playing good again, and is a heck of a player when he's on. but again, id say hall is ahead for sure. at the very least, id assume the two are going in opposite directions in the near future
- hugefemale dog77

agreed

50 cents on the dollar may not be a bad deal at this point.
- derm10

Yak has alot of potential but that's all it is right now. Miller is a former 1st, Kristo has good offensive ability and another 1st rounder could help down the road.

Considering the way the situation is progressing I don't think you'll get equal value back for him. Who do you guys want from the NYR in a hypothetical deal, McDonagh and Kreider? Please, take Girardi, but he's a UFA. Staal I might think of dealing even though he's a rock on defense, he's only got one year left and may bolt anyways.
- Ranger71

no chance of mcd and kreider. was just saying the names we'd want to make it worthwhile for us.

I doubt u deal mcd at all.

and girardi is a good player, but he's the one id want least and his contract doesn't help either.

id center a deal around staal....

if u don't want to give up any the guys mentioned, that s fine and I understand.
no deal to be made.

agreed
- rangerdanger94

I knew you would.

no to staal. he probably bolts to carolina. girardi is ufa. edm would just simply wait and make a pitch to him in the off season. i wish mcdonagh and kreider, but nyr is not gonna cough that up.
- deks1

That's why I'm saying, Lowe should take 3-4 B-rate pieces instead of trying for 2 A-grade parts which I don't think he'd get. If Nail is having these issues already a team will be gambling on him to get it together on their team.

He started off the season horrible, but he has improved a lot, and has a lot of room to grow. He might have the best one time shot in the league, he can tee it up. Hes a poor mans drew doughty. which says alot.
- Deadmau55

he was so good in last years playoffs. I was actually shocked at how good he played.

That's why I'm saying, Lowe should take 3-4 B-rate pieces instead of trying for 2 A-grade parts which I don't think he'd get. If Nail is having these issues already a team will be gambling on him to get it together on their team.
- Ranger71

we don't need MORE players. we need ones that help us get better.
kristo, a first etc aren't what we need.

we don't need MORE players. we need ones that help us get better.
kristo, a first etc aren't what we need.
- hugefemale dog77

I hear you, and if Kreider wasn't starting to get it together I'd be open to dealing him but we need a young power forward which they haven't had for awhile. It'll be interesting to see where this ends up for you guys.

You know this for sure? Where did you get that crystal ball?
- nated81

You new here tonight? Its the internet man. Guys on here know what little they see and here without actually being involved or there as being fact. Come on nate. You should know better around here. Guys that post on hb are like omnipotent all seeing and knowing gods. Or like santa claus

I hear you, and if Kreider wasn't starting to get it together I'd be open to dealing him but we need a young power forward which they haven't had for awhile. It'll be interesting to see where this ends up for you guys.
- Ranger71

i would actually consider offering yak+ for mcdonagh and kreider. that's just me.

I hear you, and if Kreider wasn't starting to get it together I'd be open to dealing him but we need a young power forward which they haven't had for awhile. It'll be interesting to see where this ends up for you guys.
- Ranger71

yeah. kreider would be a fantastic acquisition for the oilers

i would actually consider offering yak+ for mcdonagh and kreider. that's just me.
- deks1

Of course, that would be a great deal for you.

i would actually consider offering yak+ for mcdonagh and kreider. that's just me.
- deks1

for sure!!

klefbom and a salary/warm body throw in -nschultz