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Snagglepuss
Joined: 08.07.2012

Nov 12 @ 7:11 AM ET
If we make that trade today and still finished last/29th I would personally fly from NZ to Edmonton just to take a dump on Katz's abomination of a child (and yes you can hold me to that)
- WildMoose

The Habs actually might consider it.
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Nov 12 @ 7:13 AM ET
I know both sides will cry foul and disagree and say it could never happen. But, if there is one team out there that really thinks they could instantly convert Yakupov into a star it is the Canadiens. We also know that the relationship between Subban and management is deteriorating fast. So the trade proposal.

From Montreal: Subban and a #1 pick

From Edmonton: Eberle and Yakupov

- spatso


Cannot see Mtl trading PK, Cannot see Edm trading 2 of their top RW talents.

Snagglepuss
Joined: 08.07.2012

Nov 12 @ 7:14 AM ET
If we make that trade today and still finished last/29th I would personally fly from NZ to Edmonton just to take a dump on Katz's abomination of a child (and yes you can hold me to that)
- WildMoose

Oh ya and by the way Pooping on him will only improve his looks, just bring a mirror lol
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Nov 12 @ 7:17 AM ET
The only problem is that even if every Oilers fan on Hockeybuzz stops, there will be more fans that will take their places. Law of averages tells us that the Oilers have to be good eventually right? RIGHT?!?!?
- WildMoose


I am talking about people just staying home and sitting on their tix. Officially the tix are sold but with the seats empty in large enough numbers it will be noticeable.

After a few games the team will get the point that the fans wont show up to the debacle the team has become.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 12 @ 7:26 AM ET
You have to think Snow would still be interested. I wonder what Edmonton would want.
- mighty13duck

We don't have anything they need.
WildMoose
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kerikeri
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 12 @ 7:27 AM ET
I am talking about people just staying home and sitting on their tix. Officially the tix are sold but with the seats empty in large enough numbers it will be noticeable.

After a few games the team will get the point that the fans wont show up to the debacle the team has become.

- OilHorse


(Frank) that is actually a good idea, anybody ever thought of a "Lowe"s gotta Go!" chant
WildMoose
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kerikeri
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 12 @ 7:28 AM ET
We don't have anything they need.
- Cptmjl


You guys had a playoff series last year, I wouldn't mind one of those
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 12 @ 7:33 AM ET
Mcdonagh is arguably a top 10 defender in the league locked up to an amazing contract.

Hall, or eberle+...and like I said, even then no.

Yak isnt that valuable to us because we want to win now and any trade that we make for yak will probably set us back before we get better from it. But we're winning games and scoring goals and nash isnt even playing.

- rangerdanger94

A lot of people want things, doesn't mean it will happen. Back on the "stanley cup contender" thing again I see. 5 good games and you guys are cup contenders again? Two weeks ago half your fan base was calling for Sather to blow up the team?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 12 @ 7:34 AM ET
i get ripped on for being a "homer" all the time for saying this but the only defensemen i pick over mcdonagh are suter and karlsson. i take mcdonagh over guys like subban, chara, doughty, and even weber.

and his offense is just starting to come


i came

- rangerdanger94

Homer you are.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Nov 12 @ 7:37 AM ET
The wording here doesn't seem like anything other than posturing.

Am I the only one who doesn't think this is a big deal?
Snagglepuss
Joined: 08.07.2012

Nov 12 @ 7:41 AM ET
The wording here doesn't seem like anything other than posturing.

Am I the only one who doesn't think this is a big deal?

- Morris

I'm hoping it's a big deal
WildMoose
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kerikeri
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 12 @ 7:42 AM ET
The wording here doesn't seem like anything other than posturing.

Am I the only one who doesn't think this is a big deal?

- Morris


I agree with you but we need something to look forward to I only started following the Oilers in 2010 after I saw Ebs first goal I guess you could say I "jumped on the bandwagon" I've never seen the Oilers win anything apart from first overall picks so trading a bit of the future for a bit of now would go a long way
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 12 @ 7:42 AM ET
The wording here doesn't seem like anything other than posturing.

Am I the only one who doesn't think this is a big deal?

- Morris

I think we've all seen this before. From my experience it's usually a sign of things to come. We just experienced something along the same lines with Nino. Nino was completely mishandled IMO and i don't blame the kid for bolting. Every GM in the league knew we were dealing from a position of weakness and we diminished his value by giving him 4 minutes a night and having him play with garbage, I knew the kid was going to be good. It was hard to watch and perplexing why management would do something like it? To me it looks pretty much the same though Yak seems to be overreacting here(or Larionov). What happened with Nino was far worse than what Yak's experiencing.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 12 @ 7:43 AM ET
You guys had a playoff series last year, I wouldn't mind one of those
- WildMoose

That was fun, what we are experiencing right now not so much
jaumiller
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ask not what Matt Ellis can do for you, ask what can you do for Matt Ellis. , NY
Joined: 12.06.2012

Nov 12 @ 7:51 AM ET
i actually think buf get alittle hosed on that deal. since your getting a ufa hemsky and klefbom vs signed myers and good prospect armia. i would not ask for foligno since he's close to untouchable. i say ott, but then buf has to take on another contract to even out numbers.
- deks1

We would probably deal hemsky again at the deadline for picks anyways, I like armia too much to trade him. I'm not at all familiar with klefbom, although I love ott I could part with him.
jaumiller
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ask not what Matt Ellis can do for you, ask what can you do for Matt Ellis. , NY
Joined: 12.06.2012

Nov 12 @ 7:56 AM ET
Next they trade yak for Crosby.
- Yeti1181

Yak would probably do well in Pittsburgh, it would be interesting to see how Crosby does though...
WildMoose
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kerikeri
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 12 @ 8:00 AM ET
Yak would probably do well in Pittsburgh, it would be interesting to see how Crosby does though...
- jaumiller


Career ending shoulder injury of course
PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Nov 12 @ 8:04 AM ET
Oiler fans completely over rate Hall RNH Eberley and Yak. Having watched Saebs,Keith,Toews and Kane develop and watching these guys it's not even close.

Lars Eller said they look like a junior team and they do. I really thought they would be better
Three coaches in three years ... No interest in defence no goalies and now Yak wants out

Wow what a mess
jaumiller
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ask not what Matt Ellis can do for you, ask what can you do for Matt Ellis. , NY
Joined: 12.06.2012

Nov 12 @ 8:06 AM ET
Oiler fans completely over rate Hall RNH Eberley and Yak. Having watched Saebs,Keith,Toews and Kane develop and watching these guys it's not even close.

Lars Eller said they look like a junior team and they do. I really thought they would be better
Three coaches in three years ... No interest in defence no goalies and now Yak wants out

Wow what a mess

- PEIHawkFan

That's generally what a team will look like during a rebuild when the players come right from juniors. If they fix their goaltending and defense they should be a better team, not a contender but better than they are now.
WildMoose
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kerikeri
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 12 @ 8:15 AM ET
Oiler fans completely over rate Hall RNH Eberley and Yak. Having watched Saebs,Keith,Toews and Kane develop and watching these guys it's not even close.

Lars Eller said they look like a junior team and they do. I really thought they would be better
Three coaches in three years ... No interest in defence no goalies and now Yak wants out

Wow what a mess

- PEIHawkFan


Are you honestly trying to say that the Hawks didn't have any growing pains on the defensive side of the game? Right now Pat Kane is sitting at -4. I'm not trying to trash Chicago but comparing a team that has won 2 cups in 4 years to a team in the middle of a rebuild doesn't make any sense. Eventually some of the forwards will realize that keeping the puck outta the net is just as important as putting it in, goalie FA this year is deep, and Yak is in a slump. It happens... don't pretend Chicago wasn't a horrible team for a few years to get where they were today
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Nov 12 @ 8:19 AM ET
Are you honestly trying to say that the Hawks didn't have any growing pains on the defensive side of the game? Right now Pat Kane is sitting at -4. I'm not trying to trash Chicago but comparing a team that has won 2 cups in 4 years to a team in the middle of a rebuild doesn't make any sense. Eventually some of the forwards will realize that keeping the puck outta the net is just as important as putting it in, goalie FA this year is deep, and Yak is in a slump. It happens... don't pretend Chicago wasn't a horrible team for a few years to get where they were today
- WildMoose

Pens fans and Chicago fans seem to have short term memory? Not all rebuilds happen in four years.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Nov 12 @ 8:20 AM ET
The wording here doesn't seem like anything other than posturing.

Am I the only one who doesn't think this is a big deal?

- Morris


No this is a huge deal. Larionov is a highly respected but soft spoken hockey voice. When he speaks people listen.

He is saying to Edmonton coaching and management that he wants to get his guy out if they cannot get their act together.

Somebody earlier posted that Edmonton management has become so incestuous they are incapable of being objective in evaluating their overall team situation. The evidence of this is just down the road watching Calgary integrating some good prospects supported by some good veteran leadership and support.

I was a supporter of the original hiring of Mac T. But I have changed my opinion. A complete outsider needs to come in and make some changes that mixes the young with a balance of good veteran support. I think Mac T and all the ancient Oilers cannot be trusted.
WildMoose
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kerikeri
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 12 @ 8:23 AM ET
Pens fans and Chicago fans seem to have short term memory? Not all rebuilds happen in four years.
- Cptmjl


Oil fans and Islanders fans know this all to well I still can't believe the contract JT is on, you guys absolutely robbed him. That should be what every GM uses as a starting point for elite forwards
jaumiller
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ask not what Matt Ellis can do for you, ask what can you do for Matt Ellis. , NY
Joined: 12.06.2012

Nov 12 @ 8:23 AM ET
No this is a huge deal. Larionov is a highly respected but soft spoken hockey voice. When he speaks people listen.

He is saying to Edmonton coaching and management that he wants to get his guy out if they cannot get their act together.

Somebody earlier posted that Edmonton management has become so incestuous they are incapable of being objective in evaluating their overall team situation. The evidence of this is just down the road watching Calgary integrating some good prospects supported by some good veteran leadership and support.

I was a supporter of the original hiring of Mac T. But I have changed my opinion. A complete outsider needs to come in and make some changes that mixes the young with a balance of good veteran support. I think Mac T and all the ancient Oilers cannot be trusted.

- spatso

You want Darcy ?
PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Nov 12 @ 8:32 AM ET
Are you honestly trying to say that the Hawks didn't have any growing pains on the defensive side of the game? Right now Pat Kane is sitting at -4. I'm not trying to trash Chicago but comparing a team that has won 2 cups in 4 years to a team in the middle of a rebuild doesn't make any sense. Eventually some of the forwards will realize that keeping the puck outta the net is just as important as putting it in, goalie FA this year is deep, and Yak is in a slump. It happens... don't pretend Chicago wasn't a horrible team for a few years to get where they were today
- WildMoose


Simply pointing out Hawks first round picks have produced results quickly
Toews is 25
Not sure Hall RNH Eberley ever will
But I do agree things should improve
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