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viperxt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 08.07.2011

Nov 15 @ 2:14 PM ET
I was in the Leafs thread this morning and boy oh boy was there ever whining about Chara and the Bruins and how they always get away with murder.
- Pecafan Fan


sometimes they seem to, i know of a couple penalties that chara should have recieved during last game against the leafs for fists to the face on a hit and a high stick that wasnt called but it happens.
Jay Uller
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.27.2009

Nov 15 @ 2:16 PM ET
I was in the Leafs thread this morning and boy oh boy was there ever whining about Chara and the Bruins and how they always get away with murder.
- Pecafan Fan


I think it's more that this happened to our goalie and the league wasn't there for us while our season was put in jeopardy. Now on the opposite end our season is in jeopardy again and we lose yet another center on something that was deemed ok.
viperxt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 08.07.2011

Nov 15 @ 2:16 PM ET
I know right?

I mean, it happened 2 years ago, so the NHL should screw up again, not protect the goalies. JUst let it go because some years ago, a leafs goalie was injured.

RETRIBUTION!!!!

- Pecafan Fan


As much as it sucked to see reimer go down to injury like that, i dont think there should have been a suspension on that play
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Nov 15 @ 2:18 PM ET
It's true he does. The whole of the Bruins do. It's common knowledge. Every fan base says it. But, what can you do. Don't try making it a criminal investigation though. There's legitimate crime out there that should take a slight priority.
- walshyleafsfan

I have nothing to do with that.
Jay Uller
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.27.2009

Nov 15 @ 2:19 PM ET
The problem is his head was down for a solid 3 seconds, its not like he curled up into the hit. Kadri full on had time to avoid hitting him, instead he continued (multiple strides through the neutral zone to get to him) through the hit and right through the head.

If the boards aren't behind him this hit would look awful and Grandlund would fall not being able to protect his head and hit his head on the ice even harder.

- Carrsrkewl9


You could say that about 90% of his along the boards. So in theory a guy could skate hunched over never fearing a hit because it would be illegal since his head was down prior? If you put yourself in harms way you should be held accountable. Players finish their checks in this league.
PotvinFan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 15 @ 2:21 PM ET
Wow I'm glad this written by a retired ref, because this is just flat out wrong. Granlund was doubled over with his head almost up his own ass, Kadri took 3 or 4 strides and kept his arm down, into the chest. Granlund is completely at fault for his positioning and I'm glad Shanaban got one call right.

Backstrom is a bonafide wussy, he's always hurt and there's very little kadri did except put his arms up as he collided with the goalie. They were both looking for the puck and didn't see EACH OTHER. If Backstrom got up and played the rest of the game, instead of acting like a grenade went off in front of him... this suspension doesn't exist.

On top of this, he's not a repeat offender and the incident was ruled a complete accident, so how does this earn him three games? Because he's a leaf, and Leaf players must be made examples of whenever possible.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Nov 15 @ 2:21 PM ET
I have nothing to do with that.
- Pecafan Fan

No, you are correct, but unfortunately none of us have anything to do with any of this, yet we still post our opinions. This bloke had nothing to do with the Minny vs Leafs game, yet wrote a few thousand words on the subject.

Plus, doesn't look like he sticks around for a question and answer session
viperxt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 08.07.2011

Nov 15 @ 2:23 PM ET
The problem is his head was down for a solid 3 seconds, its not like he curled up into the hit. Kadri full on had time to avoid hitting him, instead he continued (multiple strides through the neutral zone to get to him) through the hit and right through the head.

If the boards aren't behind him this hit would look awful and Grandlund would fall not being able to protect his head and hit his head on the ice even harder.

- Carrsrkewl9


Actually if you watch the replay you will see that kadri comes accross the neutral zone to try and get the puck from #4 of the wild, when #4 passes it to granlund from the redline to the blueline, kadri changes direction without taking a stride and then glides into Grandlund, making the hit, were the main point of contact is Granlunds right shoulder. Watch it again and you will see exactly what i just posted. And judging by your picture i would assume you know that in hockey you are taught to finish your checks, not turn away when the guy has the puck.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Nov 15 @ 2:29 PM ET
call it how you see it but 3 games for his actions is a joke. Should have been 2X that.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Nov 15 @ 2:31 PM ET
call it how you see it but 3 games for his actions is a joke. Should have been 2X that.
- RynoBull


How amazing it must be to see the world through Leaf Colored Glasses
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Nov 15 @ 2:31 PM ET
Wow I'm glad this written by a retired ref, because this is just flat out wrong. Granlund was doubled over with his head almost up his own ass, Kadri took 3 or 4 strides and kept his arm down, into the chest. Granlund is completely at fault for his positioning and I'm glad Shanaban got one call right.

Backstrom is a bonafide wussy, he's always hurt and there's very little kadri did except put his arms up as he collided with the goalie. They were both looking for the puck and didn't see EACH OTHER. If Backstrom got up and played the rest of the game, instead of acting like a grenade went off in front of him... this suspension doesn't exist.

On top of this, he's not a repeat offender and the incident was ruled a complete accident, so how does this earn him three games? Because he's a leaf, and Leaf players must be made examples of whenever possible.

- PotvinFan



Typical response from a Laff fan....

Yup. Kadri was innocent.
PotvinFan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 15 @ 2:36 PM ET


Typical response from a Laff fan....

Yup. Kadri was innocent.

- Iggysbff


Are you suggesting that fans of other sports franchises don't sometimes disagree with issues related to their team? Shouldn't this read "Typical response from a sports fan"?

He deserved a game for the Backstrom incident because he didn't try to avoid it, so not innocent but certainly not 3 game-guilty.
PotvinFan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 15 @ 2:37 PM ET


Typical response from a Laff fan....

Yup. Kadri was innocent.

- Iggysbff


Also until your team is better than a steaming pile of decomposing first overalls, please refrain from talking to us "Big Smoke Folk".

Thanks.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Nov 15 @ 2:38 PM ET
Are you suggesting that fans of other sports franchises don't sometimes disagree with issues related to their team? Shouldn't this read "Typical response from a sports fan"?

He deserved a game for the Backstrom incident because he didn't try to avoid it, so not innocent but certainly not 3 game-guilty.

- PotvinFan


As an ex NHL Ref said....he deserved suspensions for BOTH hits....

He's lucky he only got 3.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Nov 15 @ 2:43 PM ET
Also until your team is better than a steaming pile of decomposing first overalls, please refrain from talking to us "Big Smoke Folk".

Thanks.

- PotvinFan


Big talk for a fan of a team that has not been relevant for 20 years . Since the Oilers came into the league , how many cups do the Leafs have ? How many SC finals have they been to ? We all know the leafs are relevant now and some of us are cheering for teams that are rebuilding . But you need to chill out !
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Nov 15 @ 2:51 PM ET
Whoa. reading this is almost exactly what I said about the hits....and a few tirades from Leaf fans calling me an idiot quickly followed.
PotvinFan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 15 @ 2:51 PM ET
Big talk for a fan of a team that has not been relevant for 20 years . Since the Oilers came into the league , how many cups do the Leafs have ? How many SC finals have they been to ? We all know the leafs are relevant now and some of us are cheering for teams that are rebuilding . But you need to chill out !
- Maximum Signal


The guy talks smack when his team hasn't seen playoffs since Malcolm in the Middle was on air, and has 4 wins this season. Same stuff all of you jumped on leaf fans for, when we sucked. Buffalo is too sad to even chirp, but I'm glad that Ogre is in the lineup tonight, hope he's feeling loose.
PotvinFan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 15 @ 2:53 PM ET
What is the record between The Leafs and Sabres again ? And how long did the Leafs stink before the were relevant again ?
- Maximum Signal


Hey lets have a Florida fan chime in too, and make this the "4 win club".
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Nov 15 @ 2:54 PM ET
I watched that game . I was really surprised how Kadri was playing myself . I figured something must have been going on off the Ice with him . He was head hunting that night .
PotvinFan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 15 @ 2:57 PM ET
I watched that game . I was really surprised how Kadri was playing myself . I figured something must have been going on off the Ice with him . He was head hunting that night .
- Maximum Signal


No, head hunting is what Scott does. Kadri went to the net, and finished a check. Big difference.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Nov 15 @ 3:00 PM ET
No, head hunting is what Scott does. Kadri went to the net, and finished a check. Big difference.
- PotvinFan


You are so wrong , Have even had other leaf fans comment that Kadri was out of control that night . He was pissed for some reason and anyone around him was going to pay.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Nov 15 @ 3:02 PM ET
As an ex NHL Ref said....he deserved suspensions for BOTH hits....

He's lucky he only got 3.

- Iggysbff

Although I respect Mr. Stewart for writing blogs here but just because he is an ex ref does not mean he is correct, TSN broke down the Granlund hit with 4 different angles and it clearly shows Kadri hit him shoulder to shoulder. He may have deserved a two minute charging minor on that play.

With that being said Kadri deserved a suspension on the Backstrom hit but I also question the league for not making Lucic an example when he took out Miller, the league had ample opportunity to bring down the hammer for suspension and failed to do so.
PotvinFan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 15 @ 3:04 PM ET
You are so wrong , Have even had other leaf fans comment that Kadri was out of control that night . He was pissed for some reason and anyone around him was going to pay.
- Maximum Signal


Out of control? Damn, hockey fans are getting so soft - he played with intensity and grit, which he rarely does.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Nov 15 @ 3:05 PM ET
Although I respect Mr. Stewart for writing blogs here but just because he is an ex ref does not mean he is correct, TSN broke down the Granlund hit with 4 different angles and it clearly shows Kadri hit him shoulder to shoulder. He may have deserved a two minuted charging minor on that play. With that being said Kadri deserved a suspension on the Backstrom hit but I also question the league for not making Lucic an example when he took out Miller, the league had ample opportunity to bring down the hammer for suspension and failed to do so.
- LeafMan

If a guy takes a run twice in a game, I don't think they need much excuse to remove him. It's not that different with us on this site, really.

Inconsistency plagues the league, I agree, but getting something wrong yesterday isn't a good excuse for getting it wrong today.
Wilbur
Joined: 10.14.2007

Nov 15 @ 3:07 PM ET
Sorry Paul…Can't agree with you about Kadri's second hit. The first one deserved a suspension not because it was vicious but because as Shanahan said Kadri was in control and need to try and avoid Backstrom and he didn't. As a result he hit Backstrom, made contact with his head and injured him. The second hit was just one heck of a hard, clean and legal hockey check that sounded worse than it was when Kadri's stick hit the boards/glass. The refs got that one wrong. Shouldn't have been a penalty at all. No need for Shanahan to give a second suspension and he rightfully he chose not to.

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