So he wants his career to be over? Cause no one else is calling, and he won't be anywhere near game shape if he signs in February.
- Feanor

Yes. Of course, I was being serious as Seravalli.

Tonight's Flyers-Sabres matchup marks the first time 2 Native Canadian coaches will play against each other:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/bl...tm?id=23003&cmpid=nhl-twt
- JAKEw1234

I hate to be that guy, but I dont know much about the "Indians" in Canada... are they not considered Eskimos ie Inuet? Or is it like in America where they had different tribes?

So what do you guys think the biggest reason for the Flyers turn around is?

A) The Talbot for Downie trade.

B) The Emery fight

C) A text from Mike Richards to Claude Giroux, which leads to Giroux breaking his goal scoring slump.

D) The entire group finally getting the hang of Berube's new system

E) Inspired play by Mason

F) All of the above
- Schenn2shine

A and D

That third line really needed a competent winger to make it go... Downie provided that.

And it's less about Berube's system, as much as the players returning to a place where they support each other in all three zones.

So what do you guys think the biggest reason for the Flyers turn around is?

A) The Talbot for Downie trade.

B) The Emery fight

C) A text from Mike Richards to Claude Giroux, which leads to Giroux breaking his goal scoring slump.

D) The entire group finally getting the hang of Berube's new system

E) Inspired play by Mason

F) All of the above
- Schenn2shine

G) Berube dropped the gloves at practice and quietly said the next guy who stops moving his feet is gonna go with me

I hate to be that guy, but I dont know much about the "Indians" in Canada... are they not considered Eskimos ie Inuet? Or is it like in America where they had different tribes?
- youarewrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Nations

I hate to be that guy, but I dont know much about the "Indians" in Canada... are they not considered Eskimos ie Inuet? Or is it like in America where they had different tribes?
- youarewrong

I find it amusing that we cannot rid ourselves of the word 'indians' when referring to native americans.

Never has one mistake ever lasted this long.

Jake! Cmon man....The Chief??
- Giroux_Is_God

Looks like a fire fighter.

I find it amusing that we cannot rid ourselves of the word 'indians' when referring to native americans.

Never has one mistake ever lasted this long.
- PhillySportsGuy

Red Sea/Reed Sea is older.

I find it amusing that we cannot rid ourselves of the word 'indians' when referring to native americans.

Never has one mistake ever lasted this long.
- PhillySportsGuy

The Cleveland Native Americans just doesn't sound right.

So what do you guys think the biggest reason for the Flyers turn around is?

A) The Talbot for Downie trade.

B) The Emery fight

C) A text from Mike Richards to Claude Giroux, which leads to Giroux breaking his goal scoring slump.

D) The entire group finally getting the hang of Berube's new system

E) Inspired play by Mason

F) All of the above
- Schenn2shine

G) I am the Flyers lucky charm and went to the Edmonton game.

What is the difference between A player coming off the IR from a long-term injury, and a team signing a player that hasn't played? But as you said, come February Gagne can sign a contract with an AHL or ECHL team, get into hockey shape, then bam, come TDL time he is in hockey shape and doesnt have the injury or fatigue problems from playing a full season.
- youarewrong

The big difference is that Gagne isn't good enough of a player anymore to be effective at 50-80% -- he's barely third player at 100% now.

Are there other veterans of Gagne's ilk that found themselves out of a job despite being serviceable players because the cap is artificially down this year?

I saw enough of Gagne last year and I can't believe he couldn't help somebody. I feel like it's more a question of cap space that teams have relative to their need of a guy like Gagne.
- johndewar

I'm not sure if we're at the 50 contract mark or not but around the deadline, I would still consider signing Simon Gagne at a reduced role. Of course Gagne would have to agree to it and know what he's getting into. Gagne I have no doubt in my mind that he's not in game shape, he can still kill penalties. We need a penalty killer. I'm not sure I'm okay with trading assets for a fourth line penalty killer, until we are picking him up off waivers. I'm sure Gagne has more pride than to play a fourth line role with us but it would be interesting if possible because he could also move up in the line up in a pinch.

Red Sea/Reed Sea is older.
- Flyskippy

At least that's not insulting. Could you imagine if the chinese came and took our land then kept calling us Australians for 500 years.

I find it amusing that we cannot rid ourselves of the word 'indians' when referring to native americans.

Never has one mistake ever lasted this long.
- PhillySportsGuy

It's embarrassing, really.

A and D

That third line really needed a competent winger to make it go... Downie provided that.

And it's less about Berube's system, as much as the players returning to a place where they support each other in all three zones.
- Tomahawk

I really think it is G) The players were really out of shape and Berube has them in playing shape now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Nations
- Tomahawk

in addition, since we are talking about America
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Natives

So what do you guys think the biggest reason for the Flyers turn around is?

A) The Talbot for Downie trade.

B) The Emery fight

C) A text from Mike Richards to Claude Giroux, which leads to Giroux breaking his goal scoring slump.

D) The entire group finally getting the hang of Berube's new system

E) Inspired play by Mason

F) All of the above
- Schenn2shine

The insertion of Oliver Lauridsen onto the top pair and the passionate play of Jason "Art Ross" Akeson.

The Cleveland Native Americans just doesn't sound right.
- PLindbergh31

They can keep the name. The mascot has to be changed to a cow though.

I hate to be that guy, but I dont know much about the "Indians" in Canada... are they not considered Eskimos ie Inuet? Or is it like in America where they had different tribes?
- youarewrong

Thankfully they had prescience of the 49th parallel so every tribe living north of it would call themselves First Nation people and every tribe living south of it would call themselves Native Americans.

So what do you guys think the biggest reason for the Flyers turn around is?

A) The Talbot for Downie trade.

B) The Emery fight

C) A text from Mike Richards to Claude Giroux, which leads to Giroux breaking his goal scoring slump.

D) The entire group finally getting the hang of Berube's new system

E) Inspired play by Mason

F) All of the above
- Schenn2shine

Fill me in about C?? I hadn't heard about this....

As for me, I think the "correct" choices are A, B, and D.

For A, it seems to me that 1) Downie has brought some chemistry into the top 9 so we can comfortably roll 3 lines at least. With Talbs in here, SOMEBODY was playing out of place, which frankly is a line that ISN'T the 4th one (Raffl, Talbot, Rinaldo, etc). Bringing Downie in ends the coinflip of "which player on the 4th line am I gonna bump up to top 9 minutes tonight". Moreover, I think trading the fan and player favorite Talbot served as a bit of a kick in the ass for these guys. I'm purely speculating by saying that, but I think that move was pretty genius of Homer; bring in a winger and don't blow the team up, but he did it by trading one of the most respectable guys on the team. Talk about a wake up call...a major minor move. Sucks to see Max go but the Flyers gel more with Downie getting top 9 minutes that were otherwise being given to players who don't belong in the top 9.

Moving to B, it's obvious- just like a fight can change a game, I think this one really changed the season. Emotions boiled over and I think this team really looked in the mirror after that.

Finally, D is also obvious. I think this team is very well suited to play under The Chief's style of hockey, and we're seeing the dividends now

Before I get crucified for not picking E, I simply argue that Mason has been a constant. He was exceptional when he arrived last year also, but they were still losing. Same with the beginning of this year. He's been the constant so I can't say his play has turned the team around.

I find it amusing that we cannot rid ourselves of the word 'indians' when referring to native americans.

Never has one mistake ever lasted this long.
- PhillySportsGuy

I am not an expert in this area by any means, but I believe most tribes prefer first to be referred to by their tribal heritage (Cherokee, Cree, etc) or, generically in Canada as First Nation and many dislike the term "Native American" more than the term Indian. I could be mistaken, though, and I apologize if I am incorrect.

The insertion of Oliver Lauridsen onto the top pair and the passionate play of Jason "Art Ross" Akeson.
- jmatchett383

I thought it was Jason "First Line" Akeson.

I was in a meeting earlier today and possibly missed a memo.

At least that's not insulting. Could you imagine if the chinese came and took our land then kept calling us Australians for 500 years.
- PhillySportsGuy

You know, I really wouldn't mind.

But I agree, instead of Indians or Redskins (such horrible terms), let's just refer to them as Barbaric Savages. We don't want to insult their color or make the impression that we don't know where they're from.

The insertion of Oliver Lauridsen onto the top pair and the passionate play of Jason "Art Ross" Akeson.
- jmatchett383

I find that word amusing

A and D

That third line really needed a competent winger to make it go... Downie provided that.

And it's less about Berube's system, as much as the players returning to a place where they support each other in all three zones.
- Tomahawk

Right now my favourite players for this team all play on the second line. Being objective though, our best line has been the third line. They've been great in all three zone.