Just because the cap is going to go up; isnt a good reason to make poor signings.
- JFlyers00

But Mark Streit isn't a poor signing as of yet; at worst, he's been the No. 4 defenseman on this team this year, behind Coburn, Grossmann and Timonen, and Timonen's only started playing better in the last 8 games or so.

Streit's the third or fourth-best defenseman in the Flyers organization right now. Whose fault is that? Well, we all know the circumstances behind how we got to this point. But where would the defense be without him?

Do we really want to play Meszaros, Gill? One of the younger Phantoms? Bruno Gervais? Or trade one of the young forwards?

Yes, Mark Streit's making a good bit of money. But he's clearly better than the alternatives we have, and that's why he makes the money he does.

I'm thinking it will go up at least 15 mil in the next two. The NHL has already established that coming out of a lockout their Cap is artificially low. Add to that the new TV contract which nets the teams 15 mil a season. Half of that goes to the players so there's 7.5 on top of the understated Cap and whatever the typical revenue increase is.

Wouldn't surprise me if it was 80 mil in 2015.

Yeah lockouts!!!!
- mayorofangrytown

"Lockouts are always totally about the fans!"

- No one ever in the history of sports

Eh, as a one-off I don't hate it.

It's still nicer than this:



And this:


- Scoob

Dislike I totally agree with, but hate? I reserve that for penguins and other total scum.
- twotoekenn

Not saying it's fair, just that certain Flyers players are firmly ensconced as villains in popular opinion. If Pronger were still playing, he'd be on that list, as well.

"We need to talk about your flair."


- Flyskippy

*sigh* It's time I own up to my problem. My name is username BulliesPhan87, and I'm a gifaholic.

It's going to be real interesting to see where the cap ceiling is set next season and especially the season after next.

- hammarby31

not sure if I hate that more or less than the ones buffalo wore the other night. good lord what is going on with designing of jerseys?

But Mark Streit isn't a poor signing as of yet; at worst, he's been the No. 4 defenseman on this team this year, behind Coburn, Grossmann and Timonen, and Timonen's only started playing better in the last 8 games or so.

Streit's the third or fourth-best defenseman in the Flyers organization right now. Whose fault is that? Well, we all know the circumstances behind how we got to this point. But where would the defense be without him?

Do we really want to play Meszaros, Gill? One of the younger Phantoms? Bruno Gervais? Or trade one of the young forwards?

Yes, Mark Streit's making a good bit of money. But he's clearly better than the alternatives we have, and that's why he makes the money he does.
- AllInForFlyers

How many teams are paying their 4th-best dman $5.25M?

not sure if I hate that more or less than the ones buffalo wore the other night. good lord what is going on with designing of jerseys?
- nastyflyergirl

The one's that Buffalo wore the other night are atrocious and should be burned.

It's going to be real interesting to see where the cap ceiling is set next season and especially the season after next.
- bmeltzer

I think it will be more telling when teams are barely able to meet the cap floor.

The one's that Buffalo wore the other night are atrocious and should be burned.
- johndewar

"...while still worn by the players!" - RippedFuel

not sure if I hate that more or less than the ones buffalo wore the other night. good lord what is going on with designing of jerseys?
- nastyflyergirl

Wow, those things were horrible. They were Nashville level horrible.

The one's that Buffalo wore the other night are atrocious and should be burned.
- johndewar

they really were hidious. I think Buffalo and the Isles corner the market in bad jersey and/or logo designs. Buffalo needs to go back to their original jerseys. classic.

its just an illusion that theyre 2nd in the east? its all a fairy tale right?
- RileyB77

Im saying they are pretenders

Wow, those things were horrible. They were Nashville level horrible.
- Scoob

It can always be worse...

It's going to be real interesting to see where the cap ceiling is set next season and especially the season after next.
- bmeltzer

Whatever the increase might be, I am thinking we will see alot of trades or re-signings. Mes and Timmo are both coming off the books at 10m. Lots of changes to the blueline methinks.

Same goes for Downie and Schenn, both of who'm I am hoping to re-sign. Apart from Hartnell, who has been quite mediocre as of late, our top nine is starting to look good.

How do guys feel about going into next season cap wise?

How many teams are paying their 4th-best dman $5.25M?
- Tomahawk

After next year every team will be paying their 5-6 d-man 5m plus.....the flyers are just ahead of everyone else.....trend setters.

Just because the cap is going to go up; isnt a good reason to make poor signings.
- JFlyers00

It is an opportunity to make important signings, though.

well ive learned on this site pretty quick that if you mention any good things about your team you better be ready to get poop on , that's all

I just didn't agree when he said we only have 1 good line, and I told him he is in for a surprise..

I could give you all a scouting report on our 4 lines and how solid they are but im just gonna get bashed and get called a homer
- RileyB77

Funny, your fellow TB fan managed to give a scouting report on the four lines. He apparently actually knows something about his team, wants to talk hockey, and wasn't just visiting to troll.

It can always be worse...





- canadianpenfan

Minor leagues. I barely consider that hockey.

they really were hidious. I think Buffalo and the Isles corner the market in bad jersey and/or logo designs. Buffalo needs to go back to their original jerseys. classic.
- nastyflyergirl

Vancouver has had some bad ones... as have the Ducks....

not sure if I hate that more or less than the ones buffalo wore the other night. good lord what is going on with designing of jerseys?
- nastyflyergirl

Yeah its pretty bad

It can always be worse...





- canadianpenfan

It can always be worse...

It can always be worse...


- 77rams

historically accurate and only meant to display a bygone era so therefore cannot be criticized for being "ugly"

same as the Habs barber pole jerseys


im sorry

But Mark Streit isn't a poor signing as of yet; at worst, he's been the No. 4 defenseman on this team this year, behind Coburn, Grossmann and Timonen, and Timonen's only started playing better in the last 8 games or so.

Streit's the third or fourth-best defenseman in the Flyers organization right now. Whose fault is that? Well, we all know the circumstances behind how we got to this point. But where would the defense be without him?

Do we really want to play Meszaros, Gill? One of the younger Phantoms? Bruno Gervais? Or trade one of the young forwards?

Yes, Mark Streit's making a good bit of money. But he's clearly better than the alternatives we have, and that's why he makes the money he does.
- AllInForFlyers

I think Streit has been fine, average on defense (as expected) and hes moving the puck up the ice rather well, moving the puck around on the PP (What hes getting paid to do) whats with the complaints? He is no worse than Carle was on defense. All I can remember about Carle is seeing #25 getting beat and staring at pucks in our net.