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- lumlums

Its "fist" you sonofofemale dog......I mean Dr. Sonofofemale dog

I also didn't even know this guy was still blogging about the Oil from the heart of San Jose

Toews is one of the best 4wards in the game and is known to be good on breakaways, how about the fact that yak lost it at the line in the first place. The 2nd goal was ferences fault for leaving his side of the net to take a guy that was already covered leaving an easy tap in for kane another power house player. When u lose 5 1 its not the goalie. I guess we need to get shutouts then we will win which means better D. your blogs r usually descent but this one stunk. I hope bryz does good but if the whole team doesn't play infront of him he ll be just like dubie. Lets say we had Patrick roy in his prime lastnight then we lose 2 1, were still talking about a loss, then who do u blame the team as a whole which u should be doing anyway. Look at buffalo they have miller and still cant win. Every team that's doing good doesn't rely on there goalie or D every game its a team effort. Notice r last 3 wins everyone was playing good. Breakaways an 2 0n 1s not goalies fault just a pleasure if they make the save. They lost to the Stanley cup champs not the blue jackets. The oilers have sucked this year not just the goalie

Garner ur a descent writer find something you know about and write about that. Blaming the goalie is getting old. Ok the goalie should win afew for you, ok lets say 2 or 3 this year that puts us at 10 13 2 which isn't to bad but still not close to the playoffs. The whole team needs to get better not just the goalie. Half the team shows up one night then the other half the next game. Not filling the gaps in the team this summer, rookie coach, way to many injuries, way to many ahl players on this team, goaltending, pp and pk have been terrible except last 3games but after yaks giveaway I don't know about the 5 forwards on the pp anymore. When we outshot teams by 10 shots and lose 2 1 then blame the goalie but to blame the goalie in a 5 1 lose is just garner

I disagree vehemently with your analysis of all of the goals.

Goal #1 was a clear cut breakaway against one of the slickest pairs of hands in the league. It's on the players to not allow those to happen- ESPECIALLY not while on the PP.

Goal #2 was partly Dubnyk's fault, but when you're surrounded by 3 opposition players in the crease being misplayed- 2 of which who aren't being covered (Toews and Kane left open while the 3 defenders decided to gang-rape Shaw)- then it's bound to go in eventually. In hindsight, he probably shouldn't have went down, but had one of the D held up Shaw's stick for even a second instead of merely cross-checking him to all hell, Dubynk would've covered that.

Goal #3 was a weird one that's almost exclusively on the defense. They're blocking Dubynk's sight-lines almost entirely with a 3-man screen (Potter, N Schultz, and Smith) and attempt- and fail- to block the oncoming shot. They blinded Dubynk and then didn't succesfully block the shot. If you're going to screen your own goalie, it's your job to make sure that the shot is blocked or deflected out of harm's way. They failed and then made the "brilliant" play of punching the puck into their own net. Dubynk WAS in position to cover the rebound, but Potter screwed it up.

I can see your point on the 4th goal, but you also need to consider what Ference did there. Ference's job in that situation is to take away at least one of the options either by sprawling out and blocking the pass, or taking the man and forcing the pass. He did neither properly. As Ference chose to sprawl, Dubnyk was right to dedicate to the shooter. Unfortunately for both of them, a few things went wrong. First, Ference didn't fully block the passing lane and left about 5 open feet between his sprawl and the crease. Secondly, Morin pulled around Ference's sprawl and was able to make a beautiful pass to the trailer (Shaw) who was completely uncovered.

Obviously the goaltender's responsibility is to bail out his skaters when they make a mistake so some of the blame still lies with Dubnyk, but to say that his play was the main factor on any of those goals is wrong. 2 were situations that shouldn't have happened in the first place and the other 2 were misplays in the front of the net. I don't buy the blaming the goaltender excuse when the defense is THIS bad.

Ryan Garner: Dubnyk and the “Didn’t Have A Chance” Defense
- Ryan Garner

If you're banking on your goalie to bail you out on breakaways and odd-man rushes as a rule, we'll be rebuilding until the second coming of christ.

You rightly point out that teams shouldn't score on EVERY odd-man rush, but most of the time if a team doesn't score on an odd-man rush, it's because THEY'VE screwed up in one way or another.

Of course Dubnyk literally had a chance, but I find this blog to be utterly pointless.

I disagree vehemently with your analysis of all of the goals.

Goal #1 was a clear cut breakaway against one of the slickest pairs of hands in the league. It's on the players to not allow those to happen- ESPECIALLY not while on the PP.

Goal #2 was partly Dubnyk's fault, but when you're surrounded by 3 opposition players in the crease being misplayed- 2 of which who aren't being covered (Toews and Kane left open while the 3 defenders decided to gang-rape Shaw)- then it's bound to go in eventually. In hindsight, he probably shouldn't have went down, but had one of the D held up Shaw's stick for even a second instead of merely cross-checking him to all hell, Dubynk would've covered that.

Goal #3 was a weird one that's almost exclusively on the defense. They're blocking Dubynk's sight-lines almost entirely with a 3-man screen (Potter, N Schultz, and Smith) and attempt- and fail- to block the oncoming shot. They blinded Dubynk and then didn't succesfully block the shot. If you're going to screen your own goalie, it's your job to make sure that the shot is blocked or deflected out of harm's way. They failed and then made the "brilliant" play of punching the puck into their own net. Dubynk WAS in position to cover the rebound, but Potter screwed it up.

I can see your point on the 4th goal, but you also need to consider what Ference did there. Ference's job in that situation is to take away at least one of the options either by sprawling out and blocking the pass, or taking the man and forcing the pass. He did neither properly. As Ference chose to sprawl, Dubnyk was right to dedicate to the shooter. Unfortunately for both of them, a few things went wrong. First, Ference didn't fully block the passing lane and left about 5 open feet between his sprawl and the crease. Secondly, Morin pulled around Ference's sprawl and was able to make a beautiful pass to the trailer (Shaw) who was completely uncovered.

Obviously the goaltender's responsibility is to bail out his skaters when they make a mistake so some of the blame still lies with Dubnyk, but to say that his play was the main factor on any of those goals is wrong. 2 were situations that shouldn't have happened in the first place and the other 2 were misplays in the front of the net. I don't buy the blaming the goaltender excuse when the defense is THIS bad.
- MaximumBone

This.

THANK YOU!!! (frank) me it drives me nuts when people say that, and it's always my friends who don't even know how to (frank)ing skate that are the ones trying to argue with me on whether or not a goalie had a chance. You made it to the NHL by making the saves that other goalies "didn't have a chance on" YOU ALWAYS HAVE A (frank)ING CHANCE.

THANK YOU!!! (frank) me it drives me nuts when people say that, and it's always my friends who don't even know how to (frank)ing skate that are the ones trying to argue with me on whether or not a goalie had a chance. You made it to the NHL by making the saves that other goalies "didn't have a chance on" YOU ALWAYS HAVE A (frank)ING CHANCE.
- SpoiledByOil

Okay, but by the same token next time Dubnyk lets in a blooper where he's clearly the main source of the blame I doubt anyone will be nitpicking the defence and saying that they had ALWAYS HAVE A (frank)ING CHANCE to prevent the shot in the first place.

Toews is one of the best 4wards in the game and is known to be good on breakaways, how about the fact that yak lost it at the line in the first place. The 2nd goal was ferences fault for leaving his side of the net to take a guy that was already covered leaving an easy tap in for kane another power house player. When u lose 5 1 its not the goalie. I guess we need to get shutouts then we will win which means better D. your blogs r usually descent but this one stunk. I hope bryz does good but if the whole team doesn't play infront of him he ll be just like dubie. Lets say we had Patrick roy in his prime lastnight then we lose 2 1, were still talking about a loss, then who do u blame the team as a whole which u should be doing anyway. Look at buffalo they have miller and still cant win. Every team that's doing good doesn't rely on there goalie or D every game its a team effort. Notice r last 3 wins everyone was playing good. Breakaways an 2 0n 1s not goalies fault just a pleasure if they make the save. They lost to the Stanley cup champs not the blue jackets. The oilers have sucked this year not just the goalie
- time2produce

Yea definitely when said goalie lets in 4 goals on 14 shots . Everyone keeps blaming the D, blaming the forwards when we have THE WORST GOALIE STATS IN THE (frank)ING LEAGUE. Yea Yakupov had a bad give away, yea Kane wasn't covered properly, but maybe, just maybe if Dubnyk could of controlled the easy as (frank)ing rebound then Kane wouldn't have had any thing to shoot. Yea we have defensive break downs, so does every single (frank)ing team in the league. If there was never any defensive breakdowns or give aways every single game in the league would finish 0-0 every time. By far thee biggest problem is goaltending. You think the Oilers are going to come out and play picture perfect defense? No, not even close, but probably no worse than Tampa, how's Tampa doing this year now that they actually have a goaltender? Oh yea, one of the best teams in the East. How's Toronto who gets severely outshot almost every single game doing this year now that they have goaltending? Give me a (frank)ing break, the problem is GOALTENDING.

I disagree vehemently with your analysis of all of the goals.

Goal #1 was a clear cut breakaway against one of the slickest pairs of hands in the league. It's on the players to not allow those to happen- ESPECIALLY not while on the PP.

Goal #2 was partly Dubnyk's fault, but when you're surrounded by 3 opposition players in the crease being misplayed- 2 of which who aren't being covered (Toews and Kane left open while the 3 defenders decided to gang-rape Shaw)- then it's bound to go in eventually. In hindsight, he probably shouldn't have went down, but had one of the D held up Shaw's stick for even a second instead of merely cross-checking him to all hell, Dubynk would've covered that.

Goal #3 was a weird one that's almost exclusively on the defense. They're blocking Dubynk's sight-lines almost entirely with a 3-man screen (Potter, N Schultz, and Smith) and attempt- and fail- to block the oncoming shot. They blinded Dubynk and then didn't succesfully block the shot. If you're going to screen your own goalie, it's your job to make sure that the shot is blocked or deflected out of harm's way. They failed and then made the "brilliant" play of punching the puck into their own net. Dubynk WAS in position to cover the rebound, but Potter screwed it up.

I can see your point on the 4th goal, but you also need to consider what Ference did there. Ference's job in that situation is to take away at least one of the options either by sprawling out and blocking the pass, or taking the man and forcing the pass. He did neither properly. As Ference chose to sprawl, Dubnyk was right to dedicate to the shooter. Unfortunately for both of them, a few things went wrong. First, Ference didn't fully block the passing lane and left about 5 open feet between his sprawl and the crease. Secondly, Morin pulled around Ference's sprawl and was able to make a beautiful pass to the trailer (Shaw) who was completely uncovered.

Obviously the goaltender's responsibility is to bail out his skaters when they make a mistake so some of the blame still lies with Dubnyk, but to say that his play was the main factor on any of those goals is wrong. 2 were situations that shouldn't have happened in the first place and the other 2 were misplays in the front of the net. I don't buy the blaming the goaltender excuse when the defense is THIS bad.
- MaximumBone

Double this.

Garner ur a descent writer find something you know about and write about that. Blaming the goalie is getting old. Ok the goalie should win afew for you, ok lets say 2 or 3 this year that puts us at 10 13 2 which isn't to bad but still not close to the playoffs. The whole team needs to get better not just the goalie. Half the team shows up one night then the other half the next game. Not filling the gaps in the team this summer, rookie coach, way to many injuries, way to many ahl players on this team, goaltending, pp and pk have been terrible except last 3games but after yaks giveaway I don't know about the 5 forwards on the pp anymore. When we outshot teams by 10 shots and lose 2 1 then blame the goalie but to blame the goalie in a 5 1 lose is just garner
- time2produce

Yea, no. The goalie should win a few, say 2 or 3 like you said, but they also shouldn't be the main reason why you lose a poop load as well, dubnyk has been responsible for AT LEAST 4 loses this year, so you add those 4 plus your 2 or 3 and that puts us at 14-9-2

I like PJ Stock.
- Oildrum

Me too, I also like those hemorrhoids that cause my ass to burn when I poop.

I disagree vehemently with your analysis of all of the goals.

Goal #1 was a clear cut breakaway against one of the slickest pairs of hands in the league. It's on the players to not allow those to happen- ESPECIALLY not while on the PP.

Goal #2 was partly Dubnyk's fault, but when you're surrounded by 3 opposition players in the crease being misplayed- 2 of which who aren't being covered (Toews and Kane left open while the 3 defenders decided to gang-rape Shaw)- then it's bound to go in eventually. In hindsight, he probably shouldn't have went down, but had one of the D held up Shaw's stick for even a second instead of merely cross-checking him to all hell, Dubynk would've covered that.

Goal #3 was a weird one that's almost exclusively on the defense. They're blocking Dubynk's sight-lines almost entirely with a 3-man screen (Potter, N Schultz, and Smith) and attempt- and fail- to block the oncoming shot. They blinded Dubynk and then didn't succesfully block the shot. If you're going to screen your own goalie, it's your job to make sure that the shot is blocked or deflected out of harm's way. They failed and then made the "brilliant" play of punching the puck into their own net. Dubynk WAS in position to cover the rebound, but Potter screwed it up.

I can see your point on the 4th goal, but you also need to consider what Ference did there. Ference's job in that situation is to take away at least one of the options either by sprawling out and blocking the pass, or taking the man and forcing the pass. He did neither properly. As Ference chose to sprawl, Dubnyk was right to dedicate to the shooter. Unfortunately for both of them, a few things went wrong. First, Ference didn't fully block the passing lane and left about 5 open feet between his sprawl and the crease. Secondly, Morin pulled around Ference's sprawl and was able to make a beautiful pass to the trailer (Shaw) who was completely uncovered.

Obviously the goaltender's responsibility is to bail out his skaters when they make a mistake so some of the blame still lies with Dubnyk, but to say that his play was the main factor on any of those goals is wrong. 2 were situations that shouldn't have happened in the first place and the other 2 were misplays in the front of the net. I don't buy the blaming the goaltender excuse when the defense is THIS bad.
- MaximumBone

Every team has defensive break downs, the difference is whether or not your goalie can make a big save or not, Dubnyk can't

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVTKniTa-uw

If you're banking on your goalie to bail you out on breakaways and odd-man rushes as a rule, we'll be rebuilding until the second coming of christ.

You rightly point out that teams shouldn't score on EVERY odd-man rush, but most of the time if a team doesn't score on an odd-man rush, it's because THEY'VE screwed up in one way or another.

Of course Dubnyk literally had a chance, but I find this blog to be utterly pointless.
- Morris

If you can't bank on your goalie to bail you out at all then there's no point in even (frank)ing playing at all.

Okay, but by the same token next time Dubnyk lets in a blooper where he's clearly the main source of the blame I doubt anyone will be nitpicking the defence and saying that they had ALWAYS HAVE A (frank)ING CHANCE to prevent the shot in the first place.
- Morris

That seems to be the only way Dubnyk is ever to blame, when it's a blooper goal. Everything is acceptable in everyone's eyes. I mean Tampa must of made some HUGE changes on their blue line to go from the bottom to the top in the east right? Oh wait, all they changed was their goalie. Nevermind.

If you can't bank on your goalie to bail you out at all then there's no point in even (frank)ing playing at all.
- SpoiledByOil

Notice that I said "as a rule."

There is no goalie in the league in the history of that sport of hockey that as a rule will always bail a team out on breakaways and odd-man rushes.

Here's the problem we have saw here the past few years. Yes goalies don't have a chance on every goal, problem is we are letting in to many of these where we can say that the goalie had no chance. We have to rectify this, if we are truly have too many of these goals that the goalie had no chance then Eakins and MacT need to make adjustments.

That seems to be the only way Dubnyk is ever to blame, when it's a blooper goal. Everything is acceptable in everyone's eyes. I mean Tampa must of made some HUGE changes on their blue line to go from the bottom to the top in the east right? Oh wait, all they changed was their goalie. Nevermind.
- SpoiledByOil

I think Dubnyk has had a ton of mediocre games. Some of them he let in bloopers, some of them he just did make any really impressive saves. This is closer to the latter, and while I don't think he's COMPLETELY EXEMPT from blame, he's far down the list in terms of the reason we lost.

How so? Dubey is brutal anyways
- EdEagle

In a shootout you have time to analyze a goalie and how he has played all game. You and your team can make a plan for your shots, on a breakaway, it's the heat of the moment you just go with your default move and hope it works, depending on the talent of the player of course.

Every team has defensive break downs, the difference is whether or not your goalie can make a big save or not, Dubnyk can't

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVTKniTa-uw
- SpoiledByOil

By that same token, every goalie has bad games. What of the last 5 games where Dubnyk was either keeping the team in, or keeping them ahead? When the team plays well, Dubnyk is also usually playing well, too.

Toews is one of the best 4wards in the game and is known to be good on breakaways, how about the fact that yak lost it at the line in the first place. The 2nd goal was ferences fault for leaving his side of the net to take a guy that was already covered leaving an easy tap in for kane another power house player. When u lose 5 1 its not the goalie. I guess we need to get shutouts then we will win which means better D. your blogs r usually descent but this one stunk. I hope bryz does good but if the whole team doesn't play infront of him he ll be just like dubie. Lets say we had Patrick roy in his prime lastnight then we lose 2 1, were still talking about a loss, then who do u blame the team as a whole which u should be doing anyway. Look at buffalo they have miller and still cant win. Every team that's doing good doesn't rely on there goalie or D every game its a team effort. Notice r last 3 wins everyone was playing good. Breakaways an 2 0n 1s not goalies fault just a pleasure if they make the save. They lost to the Stanley cup champs not the blue jackets. The oilers have sucked this year not just the goalie
- time2produce

Wow this post was an absolute train wreck from beginning to end. I'm not usually a grammar or spelling cop but this was so bad that I barely know what was being said. It's like someone simply transcribed the drunken ramblings of some English second language sailor who's completely House Arrest pissed.

That seems to be the only way Dubnyk is ever to blame, when it's a blooper goal. Everything is acceptable in everyone's eyes. I mean Tampa must of made some HUGE changes on their blue line to go from the bottom to the top in the east right? Oh wait, all they changed was their goalie. Nevermind.
- SpoiledByOil

They changed their coach (full systems revamp), their young forwards developed further (Johnson, Stamkos, Panik, and Palat), three of their Dmen made big strides in the offseason (Gudas, Sustr, and Hedman), AND they brought in Bishop. So no, they didn't JUST change their goalie...

Edit: They also replaced Lecavalier with a stronger two-way player in Filppula.

Every team has defensive break downs, the difference is whether or not your goalie can make a big save or not, Dubnyk can't

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVTKniTa-uw
- SpoiledByOil

What if Bishop hadn't made that save? Would you have blamed him?

Do you want me to find videos of EVERY GOALIE IN THE NHL getting beat on 2 on 1s?

They changed their coach (full systems revamp), their young forwards developed further (Johnson, Stamkos, Panik, and Palat), three of their Dmen made big strides in the offseason (Gudas, Sustr, and Hedman), AND they brought in Bishop. So no, they didn't JUST change their goalie...
- MaximumBone

And top in the East (actually 2nd) makes it sound like they're not 10th in the league, hardly outplayed by either Buffalo or Edmonton, and have half a dozen games where they allowed 5+ goals, same as Edmonton