So, game tonight. Blue Jackets at 730PM. Jackets have been playing better lately.
- powerhouse

And in all the chaos of the last few days, has there been any indication that Malkin is going to be back in action? Or is he still "day-to-day" for another couple weeks?

And in all the chaos of the last few days, has there been any indication that Malkin is going to be back in action? Or is he still "day-to-day" for another couple weeks?
- akane13

No practice yesterday so we won't know anything about anything until today.

No practice yesterday so we won't know anything about anything until today.
- dbell646

Ah. Right. Forgot it was an off day yesterday.

Ah. Right. Forgot it was an off day yesterday.
- akane13

I hope he comes back today. This team could use some good news.

Neal deserves the same suspension that was handed out to Steckel for the Crosby concussion hit, it is practically the same exact situation. Except Marchand didn't get hurt, it should be called the "opps I didn't see you there, although everyone knows I did". = No suspension.


Thornton should get 50.


Sadly though this situation shows exactly what the other 29 teams in the NHL think of us, we are soft and (especially with Glass out of the lineup) can do anything you want to our top players with no repercussions.

I hope he comes back today. This team could use some good news.
- dbell646

Some good news would be welcome on that front.

Half of WBS is going to be in the lineup tonight!

Neal deserves the same suspension that was handed out to Steckel for the Crosby concussion hit, it is practically the same exact situation. Except Marchand didn't get hurt, it should be called the "opps I didn't see you there, although everyone knows I did". = No suspension.


Thornton should get 50.


Sadly though this situation shows exactly what the other 29 teams in the NHL think of us, we are soft and (especially with Glass out of the lineup) can do anything you want to our top players with no repercussions.
- nbartley9

Just so I understand your point what about what transpired on Saturday leads you to believe we are soft? Even when we employed a goon bylsma has never be one to retaliate.

Just so I understand your point what about what transpired on Saturday leads you to believe we are soft? Even when we employed a goon bylsma has never be one to retaliate.
- dbell646

Not exactly what I mean, we don't need a goon to go out and fight. However we do need someone that will go after other teams top players if we have to, having to watch someone take out our defensive leader and backbone of the team is a hard pill to swallow. Also it wasn't the game Saturday that makes me think we are soft, its just a fact; we are soft and easy to play against.

After Orpik was mauled the very next shift someone should have been going after Bergeron. With in the rules, but on the verge of being over the line. Leaving your feet for a huge hit would have done nicely.

Not exactly what I mean, we don't need a goon to go out and fight. However we do need someone that will go after other teams top players if we have to, having to watch someone take out our defensive leader and backbone of the team is a hard pill to swallow. Also it wasn't the game Saturday that makes me think we are soft, its just a fact; we are soft and easy to play against.
- nbartley9

This is THE problem right now if people actually think like that.

Not exactly what I mean, we don't need a goon to go out and fight. However we do need someone that will go after other teams top players if we have to, having to watch someone take out our defensive leader and backbone of the team is a hard pill to swallow. Also it wasn't the game Saturday that makes me think we are soft, its just a fact; we are soft and easy to play against.

After Orpik was mauled the very next shift someone should have been going after Bergeron. With in the rules, but on the verge of being over the line. Leaving your feet for a huge hit would have done nicely.
- nbartley9

Go hang out with Kelly Chase and PJ Stock.

Dumoulin officially called up.

Dumoulin officially called up.
- Deadstar

and no forward recalled. Hard to imagine then Dumoulin won't play tonight. Perhaps Engo moves to the 4th line.


**edit..and Orpik to IR

This is THE problem right now if people actually think like that.
- MrBeanTown

Orpik was viciously assaulted for laying a clean hit. Someone should have paid for that, and it should have been one of your top players. Kelly's broken leg is not enough.

Orpik was viciously assaulted for laying a clean hit. Someone should have paid for that, and it should have been one of your top players. Kelly's broken leg is not enough.
- nbartley9

In that context Neal should have been given a headshot because of what he did to Marchand? Come on man!!!

If thats the way it goes the league turns even more heat shot oriented and it gets out of hand, Sh!tty tings happens in a hockey game but your way of thinking is a tad asinine.

No one even knows if Orpik will miss a game yet and you think they should have attacked Bergeron, man oh man....

Thorty did something stupid, honestly same as Rinaldo did earlier in the day to a Stars player.... Stupid things happen, but saing no everyone should target everyone is stupid.

Should have th Bruins targeted Sid's head because of what Cooke did to Savard? the answer is no, because thats idiotic...

grow up dude

I do hope Julien chokes on a chicken bone the fat f.uck. But no, this isnt frontier justice.

#1In that context Neal should have been given a headshot because of what he did to Marchand? Come on man!!!

#2If thats the way it goes the league turns even more heat shot oriented and it gets out of hand, Sh!tty tings happens in a hockey game but your way of thinking is a tad asinine.

#3No one even knows if Orpik will miss a game yet and you think they should have attacked Bergeron, man oh man....

#4Thorty did something stupid, honestly same as Rinaldo did earlier in the day to a Stars player.... Stupid things happen, but saing no everyone should target everyone is stupid.

#5 Should have th Bruins targeted Sid's head because of what Cooke did to Savard? the answer is no, because thats idiotic...

grow up dude
- MrBeanTown

I will number these to make it easier on you.
1. You can not prove what Neal intended to do, and Marchand wasn't hurt. Neal's supposed knee to Marchand's head was a normal skating motion, I will agree with the panel on TSN; is was not a distinct kicking motion.
2.The league has policed itself since it was founded and that shouldn't change. But however it should be within the limits of the rules, not slew footing someone that is engaged with other players while his back is turned and pummel him Todd Bertuzzi style.
3. Orpik has already been placed on IR
4.Not the same thing at all, Orpik was literally attacked from behind after a slew foot; the slew foot alone could have ended his career.
5. Targeted Sid's head after the Savard hit? no, but punch to the face or charging and leaving their feet to lay a little more pain on Sid would have been totally warranted.

I've been away for a few days and I am honestly happy I wasn't here when these incidents happened.

Neal is an idiot and deserves whatever suspension he gets. In fact he probably deserves more. And if you are dumb enough to believe it wasn't intentional then you should probably re-examine what you think you know of NHL'ers and professional athletes.

Thornton's actions border on criminal assault. I am not one who wants the police to be involved in on ice incidents, but Thornton definitely broke the code.

And the sad thing is that if the Penguins want their pound of flesh they would have to take out someone like Bergeron or Seidenburg. Because lets face it, Thornton is not Orpiks equal.

So, game tonight. Blue Jackets at 730PM. Jackets have been playing better lately.
- powerhouse

THANK YOU FOR CHANGING THE SUBJECT!

I will number these to make it easier on you.
1. You can not prove what Neal intended to do, and Marchand wasn't hurt. Neal's supposed knee to Marchand's head was a normal skating motion, I will agree with the panel on TSN; is was not a distinct kicking motion.
2.The league has policed itself since it was founded and that shouldn't change. But however it should be within the limits of the rules, not slew footing someone that is engaged with other players while his back is turned and pummel him Todd Bertuzzi style.
3. Orpik has already been placed on IR
4.Not the same thing at all, Orpik was literally attacked from behind after a slew foot; the slew foot alone could have ended his career.
5. Targeted Sid's head after the Savard hit? no, but punch to the face or charging and leaving their feet to lay a little more pain on Sid would have been totally warranted.
- nbartley9

Arguing with you is pointless. I do not thing that a "punch to the face, or a charge" on Sidney should of been warranted after the Cooke/Savard moment, maybe something against Cooke, but why Crosby he has NOTHING to do with it... catch my drift chief.

I don't need to "prove" that Neal intended to do anything, but the footage shows enough, and his smug and idiotic post game comments only made him look like more of an as$hat.

I have not once defended Thornton and his actions, i think he should get 20 games because it makes the league look bush league and stupid. But your comments and thoughts of appropriate are off base and asinine. That is my personal opinion.

THANK YOU FOR CHANGING THE SUBJECT!
- IronCity

Its refreshing that this ghost town finally has some action. Its a shame it took Orpik being taken out on a stretcher.

Arguing with you is pointless. I do not thing that a "punch to the face, or a charge" on Sidney should of been warranted after the Cooke/Savard moment, maybe something against Cooke, but why Crosby he has NOTHING to do with it... catch my drift chief.

I don't need to "prove" that Neal intended to do anything, but the footage shows enough, and his smug and idiotic post game comments only made him look like more of an as$hat.

I have not once defended Thornton and his actions, i think he should get 20 games because it makes the league look bush league and stupid. But your comments and thoughts of appropriate are off base and asinine. That is my personal opinion.
- MrBeanTown

You have clearly never played a shift of hockey, or these questions you ask would answer themselves.

I do hope Julien chokes on a chicken bone the fat f.uck. But no, this isnt frontier justice.
- Deadstar

You need a life. It's all just hockey after all.

Mr bean , keep in mind Bartley is only one Pen fan , of course Neal did it on purpose and with his history he should get more games than would be normal for a hit like that , on the other side Thornton let his emotions get the better of him but what he did was horrible the league should make an example of him , but I'm guessing neither one will get what they deserve because shanahan is too easy on everyone , that's my two cents. On another note I am excited to see what domulion can do , he's large enough to play with the big boys , can't wait to see him

I will number these to make it easier on you.
1. You can not prove what Neal intended to do, and Marchand wasn't hurt. Neal's supposed knee to Marchand's head was a normal skating motion, I will agree with the panel on TSN; is was not a distinct kicking motion.
2.The league has policed itself since it was founded and that shouldn't change. But however it should be within the limits of the rules, not slew footing someone that is engaged with other players while his back is turned and pummel him Todd Bertuzzi style.
3. Orpik has already been placed on IR
4.Not the same thing at all, Orpik was literally attacked from behind after a slew foot; the slew foot alone could have ended his career.
5. Targeted Sid's head after the Savard hit? no, but punch to the face or charging and leaving their feet to lay a little more pain on Sid would have been totally warranted.
- nbartley9

The problem is "intent". Plays like the one involving Neal should be treated like a high-stick in that intent doesnt matter. Much like it is a player's responsibility to be in control of his stick at all times, so should he be required to be in control of his body/extremities. As far as Im concerned, Neal saw a chance to "toe the line" and took it plain and simple. Vigilante justice in these instances results in the incidents escalating, not diffusing(see history with Islanders--Brent Johnson fights Dipietro, next game Gillies extracts his pound of flesh). Id rather be joining the convo today to complain about the penalties/suspensions being too heavy handed than the constant kid gloves discipline the league hands down unless there is public outcry on a repeat offender like Cooke.

Lastly, not sure who I saw mention it, but i fully agree with the idea that "supplemental discipline history" should not be used to protect first time offenders from a longer suspension. It should only come in to play for extending suspensions for repeat offenders.

You have clearly never played a shift of hockey, or these questions you ask would answer themselves.
- nbartley9

I am glad you have followed my hockey career so closely!

And you have seemed to ignore the majority of my post to say that I must have not played a shift of hockey because I don't think charging or punching someone's face who has nothing to do with the play is appropriate!

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