So you're comparing him based on ray whitneys 12th best scoring season of his career (in which he also missed 19 games that season)?

This is really reaching now, they aren't even in the same arena
- FourFeathers773

Had 6 better season that 55 point effort. Listen Zuccs is a good player and he's playing very well right now. You have not a clue what your are talking about. It would be like me suggesting that Hjalmarsson is expandable to the hawks for them to acquire Ryan Miller now that Crawford and Nabby are hurt.

Small forward, moderate at best production, feisty but not physically imposing

I would compare zuccarello to a nathan gerbe, tyler ennis, or cam atkinson
- FourFeathers773

Not that those guys are unfair comparisons but can you find players that have a longer track record? All three of the players you mentioned are in the early stages of their pro career. To be fair we should identify players that have been around for a while to get an idea for what might be expected of Zucc.

Small forward, moderate at best production, feisty but not physically imposing

I would compare zuccarello to a nathan gerbe, tyler ennis, or cam atkinson
- FourFeathers773

I all accept Tyler Ennis. But Gerbe is .39 ppg for his career. Zuccs in .57. Not really close.

Had 6 better season that 55 point effort. Listen Zuccs is a good player and he's playing very well right now. You have not a clue what your are talking about. It would be like me suggesting that Hjalmarsson is expandable to the hawks for them to acquire Ryan Miller not that Crawford and Nabby are hurt.
- tomburton99

huh

97-98 61 pts
98-99 64 pts
99-00 71 pts
01-02 61 pts
02-03 76 pts
06-07 83 pts
07-08 61 pts
08-09 77 pts
09-10 58 pts
10-11 57 pts
11-12 77 pts

listen, i know you want to just say "i dont know what im talking about" because i made some egregious suggestion that Zuccarello shouldnt be in the top 6 on a contending team, but be a little bit more objective than comparing him to someone with over 1,000 pts in his career

huh

97-98 61 pts
98-99 64 pts
99-00 71 pts
01-02 61 pts
02-03 76 pts
06-07 83 pts
07-08 61 pts
08-09 77 pts
09-10 58 pts
10-11 57 pts
11-12 77 pts

listen, i know you want to just say "i dont know what im talking about" because i made some egregious suggestion that Zuccarello shouldnt be in the top 6 on a contending team, but be a little bit more objective than comparing him to someone with over 1,000 pts in his career
- FourFeathers773

He had 6 better seasons after that 55 point effort. I just said that? Do you not read the whole quote. But I think Zuccarello can be closer to Ray whitney than Nathan Gerbie. Zuccs is already much better than Gerbie.

huh

97-98 61 pts
98-99 64 pts
99-00 71 pts
01-02 61 pts
02-03 76 pts
06-07 83 pts
07-08 61 pts
08-09 77 pts
09-10 58 pts
10-11 57 pts
11-12 77 pts

listen, i know you want to just say "i dont know what im talking about" because i made some egregious suggestion that Zuccarello shouldnt be in the top 6 on a contending team, but be a little bit more objective than comparing him to someone with over 1,000 pts in his career
- FourFeathers773

Zuccs career isn't over, it's very early on. You asked for a player that was in the top 6 of a cup team that compared to Zuccs. I gave you Ray Whitney in 06. Now we are going to compare a 40 year old whitney to a 26 year old Zuccs. Right. Ok. Move along now.

He had 6 better seasons after that 55 point effort. I just said that? Do you not read the whole quote. But I think Zuccarello can be closer to Ray whitney than Nathan Gerbie. Zuccs is already much better than Gerbie.
- tomburton99

No where did you say "after that 55 point effort"

Had 6 better season that 55 point effort. Listen Zuccs is a good player and he's playing very well right now. You have not a clue what your are talking about. It would be like me suggesting that Hjalmarsson is expandable to the hawks for them to acquire Ryan Miller not that Crawford and Nabby are hurt.
- tomburton99

huh

97-98 61 pts
98-99 64 pts
99-00 71 pts
01-02 61 pts
02-03 76 pts
06-07 83 pts
07-08 61 pts
08-09 77 pts
09-10 58 pts
10-11 57 pts
11-12 77 pts

listen, i know you want to just say "i dont know what im talking about" because i made some egregious suggestion that Zuccarello shouldnt be in the top 6 on a contending team, but be a little bit more objective than comparing him to someone with over 1,000 pts in his career
- FourFeathers773

13gms 1 1 2 -2
56gms 3 15 18 -5
78gms 18 22 40 -4
53gms 16 19 35 +4
82gms 33 37 70 +10
82gms 38 56 94 +35

Name the player.

13gms 1 1 2 -2
56gms 3 15 18 -5
78gms 18 22 40 -4
53gms 16 19 35 +4
82gms 33 37 70 +10
82gms 38 56 94 +35

Name the player.
- aecliptic

Marty St. Louis?

Marty St. Louis?
- Mtlca66

Wee little 5'8 in the morning, 5'6 at night, 180 pounds soaking wet St. Louis.

Thats 95 points in his first 200 games before he really hit his mark. Now Im not saying Zucc's is going to be the next St. Louis, but he does play very hard out there and shows glimpses of some top level skill.

Not that those guys are unfair comparisons but can you find players that have a longer track record? All three of the players you mentioned are in the early stages of their pro career. To be fair we should identify players that have been around for a while to get an idea for what might be expected of Zucc.
- gkmkiller

its tricky in terms of those kind of player, because for the most part, these smaller guys dont last in the NHL

compared to pace of production, although it would be a careers worth vs zuccarrellos limited sample size, and he had much bigger upside earlier in his career than zuccarello does now, but the best experienced comparison I can make right now is Brian Gionta who has kind of regressed into the 40ish pt production range

I know that will be the sentiment of a lot of people, but realistically, unless they are obviously out of range of the top 3 spots in the Metro division at trade deadline time, that's not going to happen.

Maybe the Staal injury will be enough to send this team off a cliff, but I think they'll be sufficiently mediocre when they'll look at add for the usual 1-2 round playoff run and not completely blow it up
- jimbro83

Teams have turned things around w/o major roster shake ups;
It can be done. Caps did it last year. Ducks kind of sucked for a while
And look at them now with pretty much the same group.
Rags need to adjust their attitude. Yes something needs to shift
But most of the parts are there -we've seen them play really well with
These players.

Teams have turned things around w/o major roster shake ups;
It can be done. Caps did it last year. Ducks kind of sucked for a while
And look at them now with pretty much the same group.
Rags need to adjust their attitude. Yes something needs to shift
But most of the parts are there -we've seen them play really well with
These players.
- BobbySchmautz

Even if they did change their attitude, they still cant hang with the likes of Boston. Its a painful honest truth.

I never thought the loss of Prust would create such an emotional gaping hole.

Even if they did change their attitude, they still cant hang with the likes of Boston. Its a painful honest truth.
- aecliptic

Though I pretty much agree, they did dominate
Boston recently. Strange things can happen over the
Course of a season with teams coming together
Or falling apart. If a lot of rags started to fire on all cylinders
They could be a formidable team.

13gms 1 1 2 -2
56gms 3 15 18 -5
78gms 18 22 40 -4
53gms 16 19 35 +4
82gms 33 37 70 +10
82gms 38 56 94 +35

Name the player.
- aecliptic

Marty St. Louis
Edit: Sorry, late. Didn't see the other posts.

Though I pretty much agree, they did dominate
Boston recently. Strange things can happen over the
Course of a season with teams coming together
Or falling apart. If a lot of rags started to fire on all cylinders
They could be a formidable team.
- BobbySchmautz

Would they be able to string some wins together sure. Their next 3 games should be wins. They should have beat NJ and Caps. They lack the veterans to pick up the kids. Richards isnt much of a leader and Nash seems like he wants to do it on the ice but not in the lockerroom.

Theyre weak in the heart. They get rattled way too easily.

Rangers one of the teams likely to claim Bouchard

Just got an update that the NHL salary cap is now expected to reach $71+ million.

Rangers one of the teams likely to claim Bouchard
- mighty13duck

per?

per?
- tomburton99

Hans.
But in all seriousness Miller was sent down, possibly to clear room for him? Someone on the Isles board posted that.

Hans.
But in all seriousness Miller was sent down, possibly to clear room for him? Someone on the Isles board posted that.
- mighty13duck

From a legit source or no? Miller was sent down and Asham came back up. So it really doesn't make that much sense for the Rangers. Besides the Rangers already more than enough dead wieght, they don't need more.

The only way I see us claiming him is if there's a trade in the works for brassard but I don't think so

From a legit source or no? Miller was sent down and Asham came back up. So it really doesn't make that much sense for the Rangers. Besides the Rangers already more than enough dead wieght, they don't need more.
- tomburton99

No but it is certainly possible. But I warn you hes no upgrade over Miller.

Hans.
But in all seriousness Miller was sent down, possibly to clear room for him? Someone on the Isles board posted that.
- mighty13duck

Youre using the Isles board as a source?

Is this your first day here?