What do you do though? Let him walk and give it to some other scrub? No one can handle playing in NYC. NYC just cannot steam together a good team... Ever... Since 94.
- evitageN

I think turning on him and Hank isn't the answer, try appreciate guys who have laid it all on the line, the rest are fair game but I for one won't pin any of this on Cally or Hank

Seriously up until these 31 games can you honestly say you've ever questioned Callahan and his leadership skills, I'm actually equally embarrassed tonight at some of you who forget so quickly, yes this team isn't very good but it isn't about 1 or 2 guys

Then the Rangers have no centers. That's like patching leak with silly puddy. Solves nothing.
- tomburton99

IMO, rangers lack the finishers, the pure goal scorers and play makers outside of Nash.

Evander Kane is that type of player

you have to ask which you prefer:
stepan, Richards, and brassard centering guys like zucs, pouliot, or other non top six wingers

OR

Richards, brassard, or miller centering your top six wingers of callahan, e.kane, Nash, and hagelin

I think turning on him and Hank isn't the answer, try appreciate guys who have laid it all on the line, the rest are fair game but I for one won't pin any of this on Cally or Hank
- cranford93

as well as mcdonagh and zuccarello.

the rest of the guys need to wake the (frank) up.

I can agree with this. I mean I just watched Callahan speak like this was a scrimmage that didn't count. They don't care and we do, that the problem. We're idiots. I don't mean that like you lack intelligence. We just are suckers basically.
- tomburton99

No you're right, us die hards are retarded. How we continue to watch this team, year after year, speaks volumes of our collective lack of common sense.

IMO, rangers lack the finishers, the pure goal scorers and play makers outside of Nash.

Evander Kane is that type of player

you have to ask which you prefer:
stepan, Richards, and brassard centering guys like zucs, pouliot, or other non top six wingers

OR

Richards, brassard, or miller centering your top six wingers of callahan, e.kane, Nash, and hagelin
- FourFeathers773

Stepan, Cause Brassard and Richards sucks.

IMO, rangers lack the finishers, the pure goal scorers and play makers outside of Nash.

Evander Kane is that type of player

you have to ask which you prefer:
stepan, Richards, and brassard centering guys like zucs, pouliot, or other non top six wingers

OR

Richards, brassard, or miller centering your top six wingers of callahan, e.kane, Nash, and hagelin
- FourFeathers773

i'd love kane but that's a pipedream. if this team could get any one of kane, eberle, yakupov and then trade MDZ for prust and a 2nd, and then trade Miller and our 1st for dubsinky...then maybe we'll be going in the right direction.

I think turning on him and Hank isn't the answer, try appreciate guys who have laid it all on the line, the rest are fair game but I for one won't pin any of this on Cally or Hank
- cranford93

Sorry, nobody escapes blame here. Callahan wears the 'C' for god's sake; he needs to start leading.

IMO, rangers lack the finishers, the pure goal scorers and play makers outside of Nash.

Evander Kane is that type of player

you have to ask which you prefer:
stepan, Richards, and brassard centering guys like zucs, pouliot, or other non top six wingers

OR

Richards, brassard, or miller centering your top six wingers of callahan, e.kane, Nash, and hagelin
- FourFeathers773

Zuccs is one of the few players playing well right now. Please, watch the games. We only have to deal with Brassard, Pouliot, Pyatt, Boyle etc for 5 more months. It's gonna be a long 5 months, but those guys are gone after that hopefully Richards too.

Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord 1m
Vigneault says player meeting is just talk. What counts is actions on the ice. Says Rangers compete level is a .500 compete level.

100% what i've been noticing. rangers getting beat in EVERY puck battle while in the games they dominated they were winning every single one. that's what determines whether this rangers team wins or not...compete level during puck battles. the players raise that, and we'll be winning.

Rangers Report ‏@rangersreport 30s
Richards: "Whatever it is we are doing is obviously way too comfortable."

maybe the players were reading our posts during that meeting.

I'll tell you one thing right now, the only benefit of a prolonged period of this type of play, get's us a better draft spot. Draft class isn't great but the st round should feature more quality forwards compared to defensmen.

Zuccs is one of the few players playing well right now. Please, watch the games. We only have to deal with Brassard, Pouliot, Pyatt, Boyle etc for 5 more months. It's gonna be a long 5 months, but those guys are gone after that hopefully Richards too.
- tomburton99

thanks, i do watch the games

and honestly, zucs is a nice player and has some good playmaking ability, but he isn't good enough to be an everyday top 6 player. he is a nice depth player, or should be. his size combined with his limited physicality and not so high end offensive ability will always leave more top be desired in a top six capacity

not even the rangers specifically, but if mats zuccarello was in my top six on any team, i would be worried

we can agree to disagree, just my two cents

thanks, i do watch the games

and honestly, zucs is a nice player and has some good playmaking ability, but he isn't good enough to be an everyday top 6 player. he is a nice depth player, or should be. his size combined with his limited physicality and not so high end offensive ability will always leave more top be desired in a top six capacity

not even the rangers specifically, but if mats zuccarello was in my top six on any team, i would be worried

we can agree to disagree, just my two cents
- FourFeathers773

2nd on this ragged ass group of scoring. The Rangers have one center. That's Derek Stepan. I'm not trading him and at least a 2nd rounder, probably a 1st, for Evander Kane. Evander Kane might be a great power forward, but he's not yet. Plus he has an ego the size of NYC. The Rangers have barely any center depth as it is. I'm not trading the youngest and the best one without a center coming back.

thanks, i do watch the games

and honestly, zucs is a nice player and has some good playmaking ability, but he isn't good enough to be an everyday top 6 player. he is a nice depth player, or should be. his size combined with his limited physicality and not so high end offensive ability will always leave more top be desired in a top six capacity

not even the rangers specifically, but if mats zuccarello was in my top six on any team, i would be worried

we can agree to disagree, just my two cents
- FourFeathers773

Limited physicality? In what way? If half the team had the heart and played with the passion, fire and going above the listed size of Zucc, they wouldn't be 15-15-1 right now.

I'll tell you one thing right now, the only benefit of a prolonged period of this type of play, get's us a better draft spot. Draft class isn't great but the st round should feature more quality forwards compared to defensmen.
- tomburton99

Rebuild is needed, I don't care what anybody tells me.

Andrew Gross ‏@AGrossRecord 1m
Vigneault says player meeting is just talk. What counts is actions on the ice. Says Rangers compete level is a .500 compete level.

100% what i've been noticing. rangers getting beat in EVERY puck battle while in the games they dominated they were winning every single one. that's what determines whether this rangers team wins or not...compete level during puck battles. the players raise that, and we'll be winning.
- rangerdanger94

Richards: "Whatever it is we are doing is obviously way too comfortable."

Those two are on the coach as well as the players. In the past, you know what you were getting from the Rangers. Sometimes, and most of the time, the effort exceeded the talent level, this year, it's the inverse by a wide margin.

I'll tell you one thing right now, the only benefit of a prolonged period of this type of play, get's us a better draft spot. Draft class isn't great but the st round should feature more quality forwards compared to defensmen.
- tomburton99

Rebuild is needed, I don't care what anybody tells me.

thanks, i do watch the games

and honestly, zucs is a nice player and has some good playmaking ability, but he isn't good enough to be an everyday top 6 player. he is a nice depth player, or should be. his size combined with his limited physicality and not so high end offensive ability will always leave more top be desired in a top six capacity

not even the rangers specifically, but if mats zuccarello was in my top six on any team, i would be worried

we can agree to disagree, just my two cents
- FourFeathers773

zuccarello is the best rangers forward right now and has the most offensive skills in terms to passing and vision than anyone on the team. he's been scoring a few goals recently too. zuccarello is the least of our worries right now.

On MSG, Ryan McDonagh spoke with John Giannone:

"I hope everybody is angry. It's not fun. The last two games haven't been fun for us. We haven't given ourselves a chance to win games. It starts in the room. There is no one else to point at but ourselves. Everyone needs to look at themselves and bring a level of compete and compete level that is up to our standards and exceeds our standards. You gotta play for each other."

Sounds great, but until we all see that attitude change, it's pure lip service

2nd on this ragged ass group of scoring. The Rangers have one center. That's Derek Stepan. I'm not trading him and at least a 2nd rounder, probably a 1st, for Evander Kane. Evander Kane might be a great power forward, but he's not yet. Plus he has an ego the size of NYC. The Rangers have barely any center depth as it is. I'm not trading the youngest and the best one without a center coming back.
- tomburton99

once kane DOES become a great power forward, you wouldn't be able to trade mcdonagh for him. that's the way it works. you want to get a potential 40 goal scoring elite power forward? then get him while he's young and actually attainable.

i trade stepan for kane in a heartbeat in terms of players. kane is so much more dynamic and his ceiling is a lot higher. he's simply the better player in almost every facet. the issue i have with trading stepan, like you said, is that he's our only good center really.

On MSG, Ryan McDonagh spoke with John Giannone:

"I hope everybody is angry. It's not fun. The last two games haven't been fun for us. We haven't given ourselves a chance to win games. It starts in the room. There is no one else to point at but ourselves. Everyone needs to look at themselves and bring a level of compete and compete level that is up to our standards and exceeds our standards. You gotta play for each other."

Sounds great, but until we all see that attitude change, it's pure lip service
- airjan23

Would love to give him a letter. Kid deserves it

2nd on this ragged ass group of scoring. The Rangers have one center. That's Derek Stepan. I'm not trading him and at least a 2nd rounder, probably a 1st, for Evander Kane. Evander Kane might be a great power forward, but he's not yet. Plus he has an ego the size of NYC. The Rangers have barely any center depth as it is. I'm not trading the youngest and the best one without a center coming back.
- tomburton99

Maybe we can get Burmistov's rights too, unless Stepan puts on some muscle he'll never be more than a 2nd line Center playing on the 1st line, his weak play and weak shot are getting old, he looks more and more like Dubi 2.0

i'd love kane but that's a pipedream. if this team could get any one of kane, eberle, yakupov and then trade MDZ for prust and a 2nd, and then trade Miller and our 1st for dubsinky...then maybe we'll be going in the right direction.
- rangerdanger94

This is just hysterical because of how badly everyone wanted Dubi ran out of town a few years back. Now were ready to give our best forward prospect and a 1st up for him

Rebuild is needed, I don't care what anybody tells me.
- MidnightMarauder

You know just as well as anyone else they'll never let that happen and we'll at worst just repeat 97-04 all over again, always picking in between 10 to 15, Sather having a job for life is going to kill us so I for one hope that old FUK has a heart attack and dies very soon.

once kane DOES become a great power forward, you wouldn't be able to trade mcdonagh for him. that's the way it works. you want to get a potential 40 goal scoring elite power forward? then get him while he's young and actually attainable.

i trade stepan for kane in a heartbeat in terms of players. kane is so much more dynamic and his ceiling is a lot higher. he's simply the better player in almost every facet. the issue i have with trading stepan, like you said, is that he's our only good center really.
- rangerdanger94

Who plays center. The only line going is Stepan, Nash and Kreider. That's the only line that can generate consistent offensive pressure. I can't believe we as a fan base would be comfortable with Brassard, and aging Richards as the only two "NHL" centers. That definitely screams quality to me.