I think it's reasonable to ask Brayden Schenn to chip in a goal once in awhile.

It's been 12 games.
- johndewar

It's not even goals and points. He's been invisible during this stretch. His defensive play has always been shaky as well.

At least Couturier is playing good defense to offset scoring droughts.

I'll say it again. I don't dislike Schenn, but my expectations for him have dropped.

Not sure why Gus doesn't play. Also have no idea why Mez is still on this roster.
- stveshdy

The way Gus has played he doesn't deserve to. Mez is on the roster because they can't trade him. Maybe they are playing him so they can put some lipstick on that pig and find a trade partner.

As far as the Blackhawks game the team should have no problem getting up for that game. If Emery plays he has a little extra, beat his old team and the rest win this game to show themselves they are good enough to beat a top team. A win could or at least should go a long way.

It's not even goals and points. He's been invisible during this stretch. His defensive play has always been shaky as well.

At least Couturier is playing good defense to offset scoring droughts.

I'll say it again. I don't dislike Schenn, but my expectations for him have dropped.
- PhillySportsGuy

If so, then you would not be disappointed in him, eh?

Couturier has had many more flashes than Schenn.
- PhillySportsGuy

Before this recent Downie-driven outburst, Coot's last real flash was in that same Pens series... all that shut-down Malkin stuff.

The way Gus has played he doesn't deserve to. Mez is on the roster because they can't trade him. Maybe they are playing him so they can put some lipstick on that pig and find a trade partner.

As far as the Blackhawks game the team should have no problem getting up for that game. If Emery plays he has a little extra, beat his old team and the rest win this game to show themselves they are good enough to beat a top team. A win could or at least should go a long way.
- LJF

More like they're saddling up that pig Minecraft-style and taking him over the cliff!

I'll say it again. I don't dislike Schenn, but my expectations for him have dropped.
- PhillySportsGuy

What were your expectations of him, if you don't mind me asking?

Do you remember Baby Schenn in the PO's against the Pens? Scoring, hitting, agitating? Young players are only going to show it in flashes... until it all comes together and you wonder why you ever doubted them.

Up until a few weeks ago, Couturier was showing nothing, too. Now he's the toast of the town, apparently.
- Tomahawk

True on all points.

Do you remember Baby Schenn in the PO's against the Pens? Scoring, hitting, agitating? Young players are only going to show it in flashes... until it all comes together and you wonder why you ever doubted them.

Up until a few weeks ago, Couturier was showing nothing, too. Now he's the toast of the town, apparently.
- Tomahawk

Because points!!!

That said, some folks* have been high on Cou2rier for a long while, even before he made the haters quiet by potting some points. His value is high even without scoring.

* = bradleyc4, davies, and myself, to name a few

Because points!!!

That said, some folks* have been high on Cou2rier for a long while, even before he made the haters quiet by potting some points. His value is high even without scoring.

* = bradleyc4, davies, and myself, to name a few
- Flyskippy

Yeah, the criticism has just shifted over to Baby Schenn. Same complaints... don't see the potential... questioning the upside... trade him for Yakupov... yada yada yada.

Yeah, the criticism has just shifted over to Baby Schenn. Same complaints... don't see the potential... questioning the upside... trade him for Yakupov... yada yada yada.
- Tomahawk

Yeah, the criticism has just shifted over to Baby Schenn. Same complaints... don't see the potential... questioning the upside... trade him for Yakupov... yada yada yada.
- Tomahawk

Lotta straw man up in here.

I think it's reasonable for a guy getting Top 6 minutes chip in with a goal more than once every 12 games or so.

Do you believe the Flyers are a playoff team?
- stveshdy

I believe they are a bubble team. As of right now, if they win their next game, they are tied with the 8 seed.

What were your expectations of him, if you don't mind me asking?
- Tomahawk

#2 center. 25-35 goals. 60-70 points.

Edit: this is what I was hoping he would BECOME. Not what I think he should be now.

Because points!!!

That said, some folks* have been high on Cou2rier for a long while, even before he made the haters quiet by potting some points. His value is high even without scoring.

* = bradleyc4, davies, and myself, to name a few
- Flyskippy

One for each of you.

What were your expectations of him, if you don't mind me asking?
- Tomahawk

Chipping in more consistently for a guy that was the toast of the WHL and Canadian Junior hockey that has over 100 NHL games under his belt.

I think that's pretty reasonable.

Before this recent Downie-driven outburst, Coot's last real flash was in that same Pens series... all that shut-down Malkin stuff.
- Tomahawk

But Couturier has always been a good defensive player. He contributes in other areas. Schenn will be physical, but if he's not scoring, he's not doing much of anything.

B Schenn didn't look good at all last night either. Turnovers, bad positioning, chasing the play. Couts looked miles ahead of him last night.

My penciled in core of this team would be Giroux, Voracek, Couturier, Read, and Mason. I would like to see Laughton and Morin join this list, but they have to earn their stripes with the big club first.

Everyone else is available for the right price. Same goes for re-signing them. If they want too much, let them walk. Vets like Vinny and Hartnell are a necessity, we can't have all young players on our team.

What I noticed when I typed out my team core was the lack of a defenceman on that list. If it costs us the Schenns, Simmonds, Laughton, or anyone else to grab a decent #1 defenceman, then so be it.

If so, then you would not be disappointed in him, eh?
- Flyskippy

Touche

Daily reminder: The Flyers are not getting Shea Weber.
- jmatchett383

Did he start wearing a visor yet or is he still trying to become the next Pronger?

#2 center. 25-35 goals. 60-70 points.

Edit: this is what I was hoping he would BECOME. Not what I think he should be now.
- PhillySportsGuy

Mike Richards minus defens

But Couturier has always been a good defensive player. He contributes in other areas. Schenn will be physical, but if he's not scoring, he's not doing much of anything.
- PhillySportsGuy

Jay Rosehill plays 4th line minutes: He's the reason the Flyers lost.

2nd line player doesn't score in 12 games: Meh.

B Schenn didn't look good at all last night either. Turnovers, bad positioning, chasing the play. Couts looked miles ahead of him last night.

My penciled in core of this team would be Giroux, Voracek, Couturier, Read, and Mason. I would like to see Laughton and Morin join this list, but they have to earn their stripes with the big club first.

Everyone else is available for the right price. Same goes for re-signing them. If they want too much, let them walk. Vets like Vinny and Hartnell are a necessity, we can't have all young players on our team.

What I noticed when I typed out my team core was the lack of a defenceman on that list. If it costs us the Schenns, Simmonds, Laughton, or anyone else to grab a decent #1 defenceman, then so be it.
- Rocktane

I agree with the bottom, but Byfuglien is not a #1 to me, for the record.

Mike Richards minus defens
- jmatchett383

Essentially, yes. However, I expected Schenn to be an adequate defender. I understand he's young, but he hasn't really gotten much better in that department yet.

Jay Rosehill plays 4th line minutes: He's the reason the Flyers lost.

2nd line player doesn't score in 12 games: Meh.
- johndewar

You back off of Saint Rosehill.

You back off of Saint Rosehill.
- jmatchett383

Let's not start a holy war here