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Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Dec 19 @ 12:13 PM ET
Don't listen to this Morris. You are one of the only things that prevents our threads from turning into a brightly colored room where the windows are licked and all the utensils have corks on them.
- TheTaoOfSemenko


Our threads are 99% dick jokes.....
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 19 @ 12:17 PM ET
I hope this doesn't cause a nightmare of comments, but we aren't happy with Gagner and Gardiner has sucked lately/been benched. Anyone see any possibility, or even if a trade between these guys, even makes sense?
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 19 @ 12:19 PM ET
I hope this doesn't cause a nightmare of comments, but we aren't happy with Gagner and Gardiner has sucked lately/been benched. Anyone see any possibility, or even if a trade between these guys, even makes sense?
- ChetManly

I hope prock reads this
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Dec 19 @ 12:22 PM ET
The only other way is picks and good prospects, which Im not keen on giving away.
- Yeti1181

We don't need good prospects, we need NHLers at this point.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Dec 19 @ 12:25 PM ET
I hope this doesn't cause a nightmare of comments, but we aren't happy with Gagner and Gardiner has sucked lately/been benched. Anyone see any possibility, or even if a trade between these guys, even makes sense?
- ChetManly

The potential for a Oiler-Leafs deal is there, but who goes Arco or Gagner? Arco goes and things change a lot.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 19 @ 12:47 PM ET
The potential for a Oiler-Leafs deal is there, but who goes Arco or Gagner? Arco goes and things change a lot.
- Lahey

Keeping Arco and letting go of Gagner gives us more cap space for a larger contract to come in...
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 19 @ 12:47 PM ET
We don't need good prospects, we need NHLers at this point.
- Lahey

you mean, good and experienced NHLers
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Dec 19 @ 1:00 PM ET
Keeping Arco and letting go of Gagner gives us more cap space for a larger contract to come in...
- ChetManly

The hesitance I have there is that simply being better than Gagner isn't enough. He needs to really fit with the future of this team. I think if anything we'd be better to keep Nuge, Gagner, Gordon and Arcobello as our centres until we can get a significant upgrade.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 19 @ 1:59 PM ET
The hesitance I have there is that simply being better than Gagner isn't enough. He needs to really fit with the future of this team. I think if anything we'd be better to keep Nuge, Gagner, Gordon and Arcobello as our centres until we can get a significant upgrade.
- Morris

And this is where I am hesitant on stating that a trade of Gagner for Gardiner shouldn't make sense, until we have an upgrade at the L2 center position.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Dec 19 @ 2:08 PM ET
We don't need good prospects, we need NHLers at this point.
- Lahey

Valid point.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Dec 19 @ 2:09 PM ET
you mean, good and experienced NHLers
- ChetManly

He'll as longs as there good I don't care for experienced
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 19 @ 3:07 PM ET
He'll as longs as there good I don't care for experienced
- Yeti1181

*they're god. don't you know anything!!!???

Sorry, it's slow and no one is posting anything and I'm extremely bored here at work.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Dec 19 @ 3:22 PM ET
*they're god. don't you know anything!!!???

Sorry, it's slow and no one is posting anything and I'm extremely bored here at work.

- ChetManly

You also missed the hell one. These phones auto correct the dumbest things lately I ve given up
HawkfaninBC
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Victoria B.C.
Joined: 07.02.2012

Dec 19 @ 3:23 PM ET
2014-2015 Oilers.

Downie (3.25) - Nuge (6) - Eberle (6)
Hall (6) - Gagner (4.8) - Winnik (2.75)
Perron (3.81) - Gordon (3) - Yakupov (925k)
Gazdic (750k) - Arcobello (1.25) - Pitlick (900k)
Joensuu (900k), Lander (900k)

XXXXXX - Petry (3)
Ference (3.25) - Schultz (3)
Larsen (1.15) - Belov (1.525)
Fedun (708k), Marincin (730k)

Elliott (3.25)
Bryzgalov (2.25)

XXXXX to be acquired using picks (1st), prospects, rentals, etc.

Est. Cap Space: 5,932,516

Thoughts?

- Morris

Still no playoffs. although heading in the right direction.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Dec 19 @ 3:33 PM ET
Still no playoffs.
- HawkfaninBC

Depending on who X is, it improves upon our three main weaknesses and fosters continuity and growth as a unit.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Dec 19 @ 3:34 PM ET
Could be that that's not a playoff team, but worse teams have made the playoffs
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 19 @ 3:36 PM ET
You also missed the hell one. These phones auto correct the dumbest things lately I ve given up
- Yeti1181



Hey genius, there's an option to turn off auto correct.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 19 @ 4:05 PM ET
(frank) that Ference will be bought out this summer

My untouchables are Hall Nuge Eberle Yak JSchultz Petry Perron Nurse Klefbom Marincin
I know a Long list

- Oilers42

I know you tend to say things that u wish would happen, instead of actual insight, but wow.
this is both has a nonexistent chance of happening, and is flat out ridiculous to hope.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 19 @ 4:06 PM ET
I know you tend to say things that u wish would happen, instead of actual insight, but wow.
this is both has a nonexistent chance of happening, and is flat out ridiculous to hope.

- hugefemale dog77

dont know why anyone would even hope that. Ference isnt a #1 but thats not his fault.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 19 @ 4:07 PM ET
Still no playoffs. although heading in the right direction.
- HawkfaninBC

I still think gagners gotta go.

but depending on who that guy on the backend is, and jultz' development, that team is on the bubble for sure.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 19 @ 4:08 PM ET
dont know why anyone would even hope that. Ference isnt a #1 but thats not his fault.
- TheTaoOfSemenko



Not only that, but compliance buyouts are only for contracts signed before the lockout(which sucks for the Leafs).
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 19 @ 4:09 PM ET
I still think gagners gotta go.

but depending on who that guy on the backend is, and jultz' development, that team is on the bubble for sure.

- hugefemale dog77



Gagner definitely has to go IMO.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 19 @ 4:10 PM ET
dont know why anyone would even hope that. Ference isnt a #1 but thats not his fault.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

he's young. he says some silly things.

ference hasn't been put in a position to succeed.
he's not a star, impact guy. he's a quality veteran leader, hardworker and savvy player.
put that dude on the 3rd pairing, or 2nd when injuries, lots of pk, and he'll be worth every penny imo
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Dec 19 @ 4:10 PM ET
Gagner definitely has to go IMO.
- Nucker101

I dont like jumping the gun but personally I like what Arco brings better. Give it the rest of the season and then make the decision.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 19 @ 4:12 PM ET
Gagner definitely has to go IMO.
- Nucker101


he's just not the guy to be our 2c behind nuge imo.
it's gotta be someone with different qualities than he possesses.
I think committing to him for 4 more years would be disastrous.
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