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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Dec 18 @ 5:08 PM ET
I do think he thought that Schultz and Petry would be better. And they might still be, but neither was ready for primetime this year.
- Morris

Schultz never showed much last year in improvements though. Petry is always a wild card though.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Dec 18 @ 5:09 PM ET
Schultz never showed much last year in improvements though. Petry is always a wild card though.
- Lahey

So we're clear we're talking about Justin right? I think some people were expecting 40 point PP QB
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 18 @ 5:09 PM ET
Yeah, that Horcoff trade was great, same with Perron and Gordon. Thought he overpaid for Ference though.


And to be fair to him, I don't think anyone thought Dubnyk would be this bad.

- Nucker101

Nobody saw poopnyk being this bad this year
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Dec 18 @ 5:09 PM ET
The term is the worse part. And just look at his career stats, that doesn't really jump out as a 5 million dollar, 7 year contract type of guy. Especially since his best seasons came playing with a guy named Kovalchuck.
- Nucker101

Power forwards are like goalies though. Next year Clarkson will score 30 and be worth 6mil. Look at pancakes how he changed so much. I doubt the Clarkson deal will ever be viewed as a good deal, but pretty soon it won't be viewed as horrid. Especially with the cap.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Dec 18 @ 5:09 PM ET
Wade Redden paraphrase when asked about his new york deal "of course I wanted to play in NYR, they were my number one target. Plus they gave more money and more years than anyone. Then they even offered me a NTC/NMC. What's not to like?"

Redden, Drury and Gomez could've all been had for below market as they all made it known they wanted the Rangers. Yet Slats made them 3 of the worse deals in the NHL.

- Lahey

Well I feel better now. You re not so bad lahey
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 18 @ 5:11 PM ET
Signings
Ference
Gordon
Joensuu
Miller (AHL)
Belov
Grebs
Labarbera
Joensuu
Bachman
Bryz
Acton
Hamilton

Draft
Nurse. At the draft, turned a 37th overall into an 83rd, 88th, 94th, 96th, and 113th pick and drafted a variety of organization depth.

Re-Signings
Let Plante, Teubert, Cornet, Vandevelde, Smithson, Hordichuk, Petrell, Fistric, Reddox, Whitney, Khabibulin, Danis, Hartikainen and Peckham walk.
bought out Belanger
Jones
Arco
Gagner
Nuge

Trades
Horcoff for Larsen + 7th.
Pajaarvi + 2nd for Perron
Gazdic off of waivers
Smid + Roy for Horak + Brossoit
Brown for 4th
Labarbera for Futures

Other
Fired Krueger, Hired Dallas
Acton as Associate Coach
Hired Howson in some backroom capacity

- Morris

You're so wise. Like a miniature Buddha, covered in hair.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Dec 18 @ 5:11 PM ET
You're so wise. Like a miniature Buddha, covered in hair.
- ChetManly

I'm bald actually
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 18 @ 5:12 PM ET
Power forwards are like goalies though. Next year Clarkson will score 30 and be worth 6mil. Look at pancakes how he changed so much. I doubt the Clarkson deal will ever be viewed as a good deal, but pretty soon it won't be viewed as horrid. Especially with the cap.
- Lahey



I agree, but just watch him play. He's no Clowe(before the concussions), Lucic, etc. In terms of skill and vision. He's great around the net and along the boards(Leafs are a rushing counter attack team and not a cycle, puck possession team so that sucks for him and them).
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Dec 18 @ 5:12 PM ET
I'm bald actually
- Morris

So just like Buddha then
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 18 @ 5:14 PM ET
I'm bald actually
- Morris

Get the Oilers to rub your head for good luck before every game.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 18 @ 5:14 PM ET
So just like Buddha then
- Yeti1181



Buddha ain't no Oilers fan.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Dec 18 @ 5:14 PM ET
I agree, but just watch him play. He's no Clowe(before the concussions), Lucic, etc. In terms of skill and vision. He's great around the net and along the boards(Leafs are a rushing counter attack team and not a cycle, puck possession team so that sucks for him and them).
- Nucker101

Actually surprisingly he has some slick hands I ve noticed. I'll be watching a game and he pull something and all I can think is who the (frank) is wearing clarkson jersey.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 18 @ 5:15 PM ET
I agree, but just watch him play. He's no Clowe(before the concussions), Lucic, etc. In terms of skill and vision. He's great around the net and along the boards(Leafs are a rushing counter attack team and not a cycle, puck possession team so that sucks for him and them).
- Nucker101

Sounds like our lord and savoir, Ryan Smyth
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Dec 18 @ 5:15 PM ET
Buddha ain't no Oilers fan.
- Nucker101

On of my tats is a Buddha with gauge wood plug earrings
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Dec 18 @ 5:15 PM ET
Buddha ain't no Oilers fan.
- Nucker101

Buddha seeks alliance with no mere mortals.
luckynumbslevin
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 01.18.2012

Dec 18 @ 5:16 PM ET
Tried to write this in earlier, looks like it didn't take.

Why aren't you balaminy Bryzgalov. You blamed Dubnyk for every goal?

The problem with the team is outside the crease, and goes all the way to the upper management.

Get rid of Coach Steve Smith...why he has lasted this long who knows.

Best part of last night was Dubrusk's pizza 73 comment.

And I am starting to get tired of Flames fans asking why we traded Smid
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Dec 18 @ 5:17 PM ET
So we're clear we're talking about Justin right? I think some people were expecting 40 point PP QB
- Morris

We'll I did expect that as I probably would get 25 with our group. My problem is the guy is becoming more and more like Bergeron, except bergeron talked funny and would throw the odd big hit.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 18 @ 5:18 PM ET
Actually surprisingly he has some slick hands I ve noticed. I'll be watching a game and he pull something and all I can think is who the (frank) is wearing clarkson jersey.
- Yeti1181



Maybe he just sucks worse on HNIC then, his hands and vision looks pretty bad to me, by hands I mean stickhandling and passing. His hands are good when it comes to finishing near the net. I'm only basing this off of the 3/4 games I've seen this year and what Devils fans have been saying since last year.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Dec 18 @ 5:18 PM ET
Well I feel better now. You re not so bad lahey
- Yeti1181

My intent is to never make you feel better
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Dec 18 @ 5:19 PM ET
Tried to write this in earlier, looks like it didn't take.

Why aren't you balaminy Bryzgalov. You blamed Dubnyk for every goal?

The problem with the team is outside the crease, and goes all the way to the upper management.

Get rid of Coach Steve Smith...why he has lasted this long who knows.

Best part of last night was Dubrusk's pizza 73 comment.

And I am starting to get tired of Flames fans asking why we traded Smid

- luckynumbslevin


Don't worry, I know the reason. His name is Ekblad
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 18 @ 5:19 PM ET
Sounds like our lord and savoir, Ryan Smyth
- ChetManly



That's not a bad comparison, not like Smyth wasn't a good player back in his prime.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Dec 18 @ 5:20 PM ET
My intent is to never make you feel better
- Lahey

Too late
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Dec 18 @ 5:21 PM ET
Tried to write this in earlier, looks like it didn't take.

Why aren't you balaminy Bryzgalov. You blamed Dubnyk for every goal?

The problem with the team is outside the crease, and goes all the way to the upper management.

Get rid of Coach Steve Smith...why he has lasted this long who knows.

Best part of last night was Dubrusk's pizza 73 comment.

And I am starting to get tired of Flames fans asking why we traded Smid

- luckynumbslevin

When you face 39 shots and allow 2 goals you get a pass.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Dec 18 @ 5:22 PM ET
Maybe he just sucks worse on HNIC then, his hands and vision looks pretty bad to me, by hands I mean stickhandling and passing. His hands are good when it comes to finishing near the net. I'm only basing this off of the 3/4 games I've seen this year and what Devils fans have been saying since last year.
- Nucker101

Not saying he does it a lot just every once in a while and all I can think is 'that do that more you moron.'
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Dec 18 @ 5:22 PM ET
Maybe he just sucks worse on HNIC then, his hands and vision looks pretty bad to me, by hands I mean stickhandling and passing. His hands are good when it comes to finishing near the net. I'm only basing this off of the 3/4 games I've seen this year and what Devils fans have been saying since last year.
- Nucker101

Devil fans also said he produces better on the 3rd line under less pressure, so why the (frank) don't coaches use him like that? I mean it sucks to have him on the third line, but if that's where he is producing that's where you play him.
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