Yeah, you lost the game because of that play (sarcasm). Devils won by 3 goals and dominated most of the evening. But keep telling yourself that one non-call cost you the game.
- Crushers68

Hmm, I missed where I said anything about that play deciding the outcome of the game.

All I did was change the description from Brunner making a dazzling move to Brunner chopping the stick out of a player's hand so he could grab a loose puck. Which is what happened.

But you go ahead and continue reading things the way you want to hear them if that works for you.

Clowe, practicing with Zajac, Jagr. Might play against Ducks. I don't understand how Erat could fit with us cap wise, hasn't even scored in 31 games, 10 assists. That's what we need, more none scoring. And I don't even know what the + would be, a 1st would be alright, but we are terrible at picking 1st round players and that would probably be 15-25. I don't know what good prospects they have maybe Orlov, but I would want Carlson (not getting him though).

Hmm, I missed where I said anything about that play deciding the outcome of the game.

All I did was change the description from Brunner making a dazzling move to Brunner chopping the stick out of a player's hand so he could grab a loose puck. Which is what happened.

But you go ahead and continue reading things the way you want to hear them if that works for you.
- maaddmike

Dude is 7 inches and 43lbs bigger than Brunner is, he needs to hold onto his stick better. Have similar plays been called as penalties? Absolutely, but thats reffing in the NHL. Hell from a certain angle it looks like he lifts his stick and it goes flying out of his hands

Dude is 7 inches and 43lbs bigger than Brunner is, he needs to hold onto his stick better. Have similar plays been called as penalties? Absolutely, but thats reffing in the NHL. Hell from a certain angle it looks like he lifts his stick and it goes flying out of his hands
- bobert836

I don't understand why much is being made of this call when the sens lost by three and looked like they were tired. Was it a bad call? Sure, but it didn't cost anyone 2 points so it should really be a non-issue.

http://www.collegehockeyn...ching_something_to_be.php

Here's an article that speaks highly of Blake Coleman. Never thought that highly of him because he was an overager when we drafted him that didn't seem to light up the NCAA but this guy seems to think he has a future.

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/11/27_coaching_something_to_be.php

Here's an article that speaks highly of Blake Coleman. Never thought that highly of him because he was an overager when we drafted him that didn't seem to light up the NCAA but this guy seems to think he has a future.
- rmdevil313

He's putting up near ppg numbers at Miami of Ohio this year. Who knows, dude could turn out decent

He's putting up near ppg numbers at Miami of Ohio this year. Who knows, dude could turn out decent
- bobert836

We could definitely use any young forwards we can get. Seems like its been a good year for a lot of our prospects.

We could definitely use any young forwards we can get. Seems like its been a good year for a lot of our prospects.
- rmdevil313

You think if that Brunner for Erat + ever went down that Lou could get that + to be Kuznetsov ? He is Russian and we had the hole Kovalchuk thing and he is currently playing in the KHL but do you think Lou will just give up on Russians all together now even if they are a top prospect such as Kuznetsov? George McPhee likely wouldn't include him though unless he felt he wasn't ever going to come over I also kinda of think the Kovy situation wasn't so much a Russian factor thing as a money thing.

You think if that Brunner for Erat + ever went down that Lou could get that + to be Kuznetsov ? He is Russian and we had the hole Kovalchuk thing and he is currently playing in the KHL but do you think Lou will just give up on Russians all together now even if they are a top prospect such as Kuznetsov? George McPhee likely wouldn't include him though unless he felt he wasn't ever going to come over I also kinda of think the Kovy situation wasn't so much a Russian factor thing as a money thing.
- blizzzard

No more Russians please.

No more Russians please.
- FAZOOL

I have a feeling if Kovy had of been getting his money on time he would of stuck out his contractual obligations. There are a few young Russians who are doing quite well in the NHL, Ovie, Malkin, Taresenko, Kucherov, Volchenkov I kid I kid but I think as long as Ovie and Malkin are in the NHL there is hope for Russians wanting to play here throw in Datsyuk to. I mean I might be against drafting one for a while but this kid can play and if he is a + in a trade for a salary dump I wouldn't be able to say no in my wildest dreams. That said this kid is a top Prospect and the only way I could see them doing it is if Lou had something serious on the Caps or if the Caps feared he won't ever come over here as he plays in the KHL already. Obviously there are others I just went off the top of my head like Yakupov and Nichushkin ( who could of been ours )

I have a feeling if Kovy had of been getting his money on time he would of stuck out his contractual obligations. There are a few young Russians who are doing quite well in the NHL, Ovie, Malkin, Taresenko, Kucherov, Volchenkov I kid I kid but I think as long as Ovie and Malkin are in the NHL there is hope for Russians wanting to play here throw in Datsyuk to. I mean I might be against drafting one for a while but this kid can play and if he is a + in a trade for a salary dump I wouldn't be able to say no in my wildest dreams. That said this kid is a top Prospect and the only way I could see them doing it is if Lou had something serious on the Caps or if the Caps feared he won't ever come over here as he plays in the KHL already. Obviously there are others I just went off the top of my head like Yakupov and Nichushkin ( who could of been ours )
- blizzzard

I kind of think that the style of play in the NHL was starting to take it's toll on Kovy. And as Don Cherry put it he wanted to go play in the ice capades!
He was getting banged around quite often, and injuries we're starting to occur more often than not. Russian players are always going to have that temptation to play over there, just can't trust them to stay here.
Shouldn't some kind of clause be put into NHL contracts to keep this sort of thing from happening?

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2013/11/27_coaching_something_to_be.php

Here's an article that speaks highly of Blake Coleman. Never thought that highly of him because he was an overager when we drafted him that didn't seem to light up the NCAA but this guy seems to think he has a future.
- rmdevil313

There where some nice things said about him when we drafted him. Was hoping he would come around and turn into a good prospect. Glad to see this article.

I kind of think that the style of play in the NHL was starting to take it's toll on Kovy. And as Don Cherry put it he wanted to go play in the ice capades!
He was getting banged around quite often, and injuries we're starting to occur more often than not. Russian players are always going to have that temptation to play over there, just can't trust them to stay here.
Shouldn't some kind of clause be put into NHL contracts to keep this sort of thing from happening?
- FAZOOL

I think Cherry was spot on. Kovy saw what it took to win a cup when we made our run in 12 and he probably felt it was too much of a war for him to go through again. As big, strong and tough as he was he shied away from physical play as much as possible. Was probably the most infuriating thing watching a guy 6'3' 230 guy not throw his body around until he was pissed.

I think Cherry was spot on. Kovy saw what it took to win a cup when we made our run in 12 and he probably felt it was too much of a war for him to go through again. As big, strong and tough as he was he shied away from physical play as much as possible. Was probably the most infuriating thing watching a guy 6'3' 230 guy not throw his body around until he was pissed.
- NickA

I love Don Cherry but sometimes he is just an old man. I don't buy that he wasn't tough enough to play in the NHL. He got offered more then what was left on his current contract in way less years in his home town untaxed and there was probably more certainty that he would get his money and on time. Every single one of you would of taken the money especially when there was so much uncertainty about the money situation here. Guys where getting money late it wasn't very professional on our owners part. Should we not draft guys from Minny anymore ? because of the Minny factor ? or guys from Canada because of the Canadian factor ?

Any of you guys going to watch Canada play Finlad this morning at 10 ? Get a good look at the Gold medal champs to be and watch Severson play and see how he measures up against other talented players

I love Don Cherry but sometimes he is just an old man. I don't buy that he wasn't tough enough to play in the NHL. He got offered more then what was left on his current contract in way less years in his home town untaxed and there was probably more certainty that he would get his money and on time. Every single one of you would of taken the money especially when there was so much uncertainty about the money situation here. Guys where getting money late it wasn't very professional on our owners part. Should we not draft guys from Minny anymore ? because of the Minny factor ? or guys from Canada because of the Canadian factor ?
- blizzzard

Not so much he isn't tough enough. Not sure if Cherry even said that. It's more he just doesn't want to do it anymore. He's soft he doesn't want to get banged up and what not. Rather skate around on the perimeter and fire clap sticks than drive the net and dig in the corners. He didn't want to play the north american NHL game anymore. That's what i took from what Cherry said at least so I guess in a sense he isn't tough enough. I just think he enjoys euro league hockey better instead of the grind it out structured hockey we play over here.

Any of you guys going to watch Canada play Finlad this morning at 10 ? Get a good look at the Gold medal champs to be and watch Severson play and see how he measures up against other talented players
- blizzzard

I'll watch before physical therapy if I can find it on T.V. You canucks got nothing on the patriots from the greatest country in the world. USA USA USA USA USA!

Not so much he isn't tough enough. Not sure if Cherry even said that. It's more he just doesn't want to do it anymore. He's soft he doesn't want to get banged up and what not. Rather skate around on the perimeter and fire clap sticks than drive the net and dig in the corners. He didn't want to play the north american NHL game anymore. That's what i took from what Cherry said at least so I guess in a sense he isn't tough enough. I just think he enjoys euro league hockey better instead of the grind it out structured hockey we play over here.
- NickA

Or he liked the idea of playing in his home country for more money. If your boss isn't paying you on time or the full amount you are supposed to get how long would you keep working for the guy ? I believe had this team been sold a year before it was he would still be in the NHL. Cherry said what he said because it's convient for him and goes with his views of euro players. It could have been nothing more then about the money. You don't need to throw checks to be effective or because you are big. Look at our entire team. We have guys that are 6'5 who wouldn't finish their checks if their life depended on it some of our guys who always finish their checks are our smallest players.

Yes but is older than brunner
- shvingter88

Well, that's more like it. If he's 5 years older, $2M more expensive (with remaining years on his contract) and clearly on the downside of his career in which--at best--he was capable of 20 goals, then clearly Erat needs to be a Devil.

I'll watch before physical therapy if I can find it on T.V. You canucks got nothing on the patriots from the greatest country in the world. USA USA USA USA USA!
- NickA

We seemed to have forgotten how to develop goalies lol Had Subban not been total garbage last year we likely would have won but certainly would of got a medal lol. It was stupid the talent that team had and to come away with nothing but that's ok we are going to mop the floor with you guys at the Olympics

Any of you guys going to watch Canada play Finlad this morning at 10 ? Get a good look at the Gold medal champs to be
- blizzzard

Now that's just crazy talk!







Oh wait we're you talking about Finland?!

Or he liked the idea of playing in his home country for more money. If your boss isn't paying you on time or the full amount you are supposed to get how long would you keep working for the guy ? I believe had this team been sold a year before it was he would still be in the NHL. Cherry said what he said because it's convient for him and goes with his views of euro players. It could have been nothing more then about the money. You don't need to throw checks to be effective or because you are big. Look at our entire team. We have guys that are 6'5 who wouldn't finish their checks if their life depended on it some of our guys who always finish their checks are our smallest players.
- blizzzard

The only guy who doesn't hit and is big is Jagr apparently but that's mostly cause he just always has the puck and is taking hits instead. Still don't buy how he has like 1 hit. stats guys are screwing him.
Part of Kovy's appeal of playing in his home country was no longer playing in the most physically demanding league. There is a grain of truth to what cherry. I'm sure hanging with family and all is very appealing but as a hockey player and competitor you should always want to play in the top league especially in the prime of your career. Who goes home after competing for a cup? oh wait...

Well, that's more like it. If he's 5 years older, $2M more expensive (with remaining years on his contract) and clearly on the downside of his career in which--at best--he was capable of 20 goals, then clearly Erat needs to be a Devil.
- ElvisLemieux

Yea but that's not what you need to look at. Brunner is streaky there will be periods as we have seen where Brunner is the most useless player in the NHL at the very least Erat is respectable on the other side of the puck where Brunner couldn't play without the puck in a million years. So even at his worst Erat can be put out and not do something stupid and it's Erat plus something else we are getting something for taking him. It's not like we are saying lets make this trade were we get older, more cap and less production ? ( maybe ) just because we want to it would be solely on the fact that you can get a guy who might fit in our system well and chip in now and again and get a pick or prospect for taking him off the Caps hands. I think it could be easily worth it. Brunner has skill but he is a 27 year old who is very streaky yea it's nice that he is producing right now but does that mean we should old him in such high regard when for all we know he could fall off the earth tonight for another 20 + games and if that happens I can't see Brunner ever getting any of the value back that he might have now.

We seemed to have forgotten how to develop goalies lol Had Subban not been total garbage last year we likely would have won but certainly would of got a medal lol. It was stupid the talent that team had and to come away with nothing but that's ok we are going to mop the floor with you guys at the Olympics
- blizzzard

No shot that golden boy in Minny is going finish it off this time. Rafalski won't be there to abandon the best player in the world in front of the net in OT again. In all honesty though should be a real good olympics both of our countries and Sweden are real strong. The ruskies, finns and czechs should all be formidable as well. Plus some random country always upsets somebody. Remember Belarus beating Sweden off a goalie gaffe one year.

The only guy who doesn't hit and is big is Jagr apparently but that's mostly cause he just always has the puck and is taking hits instead. Still don't buy how he has like 1 hit. stats guys are screwing him.
Part of Kovy's appeal of playing in his home country was no longer playing in the most physically demanding league. There is a grain of truth to what cherry. I'm sure hanging with family and all is very appealing but as a hockey player and competitor you should always want to play in the top league especially in the prime of your career. Who goes home after competing for a cup? oh wait...
- NickA

Maybe from his perspective he thought that was the Devils one good shot at the cup and we where deteriorating fast as a team. Marty was 40 Moose was 39 none of our goalie prospects where anywhere near ready Clarkson was leaving the entire core of the team was mess with very little coming up. He might of figured he would of been stuck on a team that was similar calibur to the Atlanta teams he played on his entire career and he was locked in here with an contract that no one would take. He might of figured that was his one shot at the cup and this was a chance for him to go play at home for a ton of money and when he is finally allowed to come back to any team he can pick a team that has a great chance at a cup. I just don't think it's as simple as he is soft. Also Zubrus is as soft as a wet paper bag so is Zajac and Brunner and Ryder and Loktionov and Jagr and Elias and basically our whole team minus the fourth line volchenkov and maybe Clowe.