Disagree. Many, many teams could use Edler over JVR. Especially with that sweet cap hit for the next several years.
- golfingsince

Thinking more along the lines of let's say you're a team with no players on your roster and you can have either player, I think teams take JVR.

Disagree. Many, many teams could use Edler over JVR. Especially with that sweet cap hit for the next several years.
- golfingsince

JVR does have a sweet cap hit, doesn't he. Whats Edlers like?

Also JVRs cap hit is pretty chocolatey

Location worthy!! Somebody just proposed a trade for a 40-50 point dman for a 50-60 point forward. Oh my god what a nut job!!
- golfingsince

40-50 point Dman? Not anymore he isn't.

This is like saying Phaneuf is 40-50 pt Dman. He isn't.

The Oilers, for example.....
- TheTaoOfSemenko

There are quite a few teams. Like I said it wasn't my trade proposal but it's far from laughable.

40-50 point Dman? Not anymore he isn't.

This is like saying Phaneuf is 40-50 pt Dman. He isn't.
- systemtool

Funny, I could swear in his last full season he had 49.

Canucks trade offer
JVR for Edler
- Yeti1181

There are quite a few teams. Like I said it wasn't my trade proposal but it's far from laughable.
- golfingsince

Its about as fair as trading Franson for Kesler because they are only 6 points apart.

JVR does have a sweet cap hit, doesn't he. Whats Edlers like?
- systemtool

5 for 5

Funny, I could swear in his last full season he had 49.
- golfingsince

Funny, I could swear that was 2 seasons ago.

Funny, he wasn't on pace for anywhere near 50 last year.

Funny, he has 9 points in 27 games this year. He'll be lucky if he hits 30, meanwhile JVR could hit 70. Funny. Fuh knee.


The trends show Edler declining, JVR on up swing. Players going in different directions.

5 for 5
- golfingsince

Thats not a good cap hit compared to JVR. Especially when the cheaper guy is also 3 years younger.

This trade is getting more and more laughable the more we discuss it. Stick around, if you can admit to an opinion change when it's all said and done.

Funny, I could swear that was 2 seasons ago.

Funny, he wasn't on pace for anywhere near 50 last year.

Funny, he has 9 points in 27 games this year. He'll be lucky if he hits 30, meanwhile JVR could hit 70. Funny. Fuh knee.
- systemtool

He was on pace for over 40, JVR is on pace for less than 60. Nice try.

He was on pace for over 40, JVR is on pace for less than 60. Nice try.
- golfingsince

Personally I dont care about his points, he isnt what the team needs, they should be looking for solid positional guys in their own end, and that only.

He was on pace for over 40, JVR is on pace for less than 60. Nice try.
- golfingsince

Too bad you cant trade him based on what he was.

Looking forward to watching Komi......


On a different team!

Thats not a good cap hit compared to JVR. Especially when the cheaper guy is also 3 years younger.

This trade is getting more and more laughable the more we discuss it. Stick around, if you can admit to an opinion change when it's all said and done.
- systemtool

oh no $750K, better run.

Too bad you cant trade him based on what he was.
- systemtool

It's easier to do that then for what he might be, unless of course it's (insert Leaf player/prospect)

oh no $750K, better run.
- golfingsince

Agreed 100%

No point in sticking around to trade a younger, more affordable and more talented player for a guy who is older, more expensive and less talented.

It's easier to do that then for what he might be, unless of course it's (insert Leaf player/prospect)
- golfingsince

JVR isn't a might be. And it's actually easier to do a might be than a was. Unless you want to stick by that belief and agree Liles, a was, should be traded for Horvat, a might be.

So, no comment on Franson for Kesler?

JVR isn't a might be. And it's actually easier to do a might be than a was. Unless you want to stick by that belief and agree Liles, a was, should be traded for Horvat, a might be.

So, no comment on Franson for Kesler?
- systemtool

Not to stir things up but he kinda is. Hit 40 pts only once and seems to get hurt a lot. GMs would have questions.

Not to stir things up but he kinda is. Hit 40 pts only once and seems to get hurt a lot. GMs would have questions.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

No they wouldn't, they'd much rather him than a top pairing Dman that plays both ends of the rink. It's laughable actually.

JVR's on pace for 60pts!! Oh my god somebody reserve him a spot in the hall.

Funny, I could swear that was 2 seasons ago.

Funny, he wasn't on pace for anywhere near 50 last year.

Funny, he has 9 points in 27 games this year. He'll be lucky if he hits 30, meanwhile JVR could hit 70. Funny. Fuh knee.


The trends show Edler declining, JVR on up swing. Players going in different directions.
- systemtool

Okay, now you guys are just flipping this the other way around, I think most Canuck fans would agree that JVR is most valuable, but here's some facts.


Edler's already pace for 27 this season over 82 games, obviously with the injury hitting 30 will be more difficult. But you also have to consider that the Canucks shooting percentage with him on the ice is a very low 5.19% the next lowest shooting percentage the team's had with him on the ice during a season was 7.69% and considering he's only played 27 games this season I'm gonna get a little crazy here and make the assumption that he suffered from some bad luck or a slump and was due for more points than he's had, it's simple math and the law of averages.

As for his +/-, he's playing shutdown minutes this season and again defensively has been hit by some bad luck during a short sample size of games this year(they tend to even out over 82 games compared to the 27 he's played). The Canucks save percentage with him on the ice is .906%, the lowest before that in a season during his recent career was .916%. The Canucks team save percentage is .919 this year, again it's pretty safe to assume that he's been hit by some bad luck defensively. His shooting percentage is also 14 points lower than his career average.


JVR is on pace for 60 points, not 70. A damn good payer and still young. Nothing fluky about his season and he could get better all-around as a player as he gets older.


I agree that JVR is more valuable and the better player, but it's really far from a ridiculous proposal. A 60-65 points 24 year old winger for a 27 year old 35-40 points #2/3 defensemen is far from laughable.

Okay, now you guys are just flipping this the other way around, I think most Canuck fans would agree that JVR is most valuable, but here's some facts.


Edler's already pace for 27 this season over 82 games, obviously with the injury hitting 30 will be more difficult. But you also have to consider that the Canucks shooting percentage with him on the ice is a very low 5.19% the next lowest shooting percentage the team's had with him on the ice during a season was 7.69% and considering he's only played 27 games this season I'm gonna get a little crazy here and make the assumption that he suffered from some bad luck or a slump and was due for more points than he's had, it's simple math and the law of averages.

As for his +/-, he's playing shutdown minutes this season and again defensively has been hit by some bad luck during a short sample size of games this year(they tend to even out over 82 games compared to the 27 he's played). The Canucks save percentage with him on the ice is .906%, the lowest before that in a season during his recent career was .916%. The Canucks team save percentage is .919 this year, again it's pretty safe to assume that he's been hit by some bad luck defensively. His shooting percentage is also 14 points lower than his career average.


JVR is on pace for 60 points, not 70. A damn good payer and still young. Nothing fluky about his season and he could get better all-around as a player as he gets older.


I agree that JVR is more valuable and the better player, but it's really far from a ridiculous proposal. A 60-65 points 24 year old winger for a 27 year old 35-40 points #2/3 defensemen is far from laughable.
- Nucker101

good, then take Kadri

The guy the LEafs need from Van is Bieksa.

Okay, now you guys are just flipping this the other way around, I think most Canuck fans would agree that JVR is most valuable, but here's some facts.


Edler's already pace for 27 this season over 82 games, obviously with the injury hitting 30 will be more difficult. But you also have to consider that the Canucks shooting percentage with him on the ice is a very low 5.19% the next lowest shooting percentage the team's had with him on the ice during a season was 7.69% and considering he's only played 27 games this season I'm gonna get a little crazy here and make the assumption that he suffered from some bad luck or a slump and was due for more points than he's had, it's simple math and the law of averages.

As for his +/-, he's playing shutdown minutes this season and again defensively has been hit by some bad luck during a short sample size of games this year(they tend to even out over 82 games compared to the 27 he's played). The Canucks save percentage with him on the ice is .906%, the lowest before that in a season during his recent career was .916%. The Canucks team save percentage is .919 this year, again it's pretty safe to assume that he's been hit by some bad luck defensively. His shooting percentage is also 14 points lower than his career average.


JVR is on pace for 60 points, not 70. A damn good payer and still young. Nothing fluky about his season and he could get better all-around as a player as he gets older.


I agree that JVR is more valuable and the better player, but it's really far from a ridiculous proposal. A 60-65 points 24 year old winger for a 27 year old 35-40 points #2/3 defensemen is far from laughable.
- Nucker101

It is laughable to me, and some others. Look at the points Franson is putting up compared to Kesler, yet I would agree that trading one for one would be laughable. It seems we've seen the best from Edler, but the best from JVR is yet to come. Again, you're not factoring the age of the players and their contracts as well. Those things have to be considered.