Gagner sucks(worse than Edler). He's a tweener IMO, he'll be a #2 center for his career, but not on good teams unless he's playing on a line stacked with very good wingers. He can't win faceoffs and sucks defensively, doesn't produce enough to be worth sucking at those 2 things.
- Nucker101

With the Sedins signed, thats what you need. A #2 C.

You're not going to get a #1 for Edler, no matter how hard golfingsincewegotintotheleague would like to spin it. Maybe a guy like ROR? Edler and a 1st?

You do realize that if you are going to determine one players ability based on the pace they were on, it is only logical to determine the other players ability by the same means?
- Leafs43

Of course I do, just flipping it around on them.

With the Sedins signed, thats what you need. A #2 C.

You're not going to get a #1 for Edler, no matter how hard golfingsincewegotintothelegue would like to spin it.
- systemtool

He's not a good #2 C though, Kesler with a playmaking winger would be ideal.

Edit: I'd love Edler + for ROR if Colorado re-signs Stasnty.

He's not a good #2 C though, Kesler with a playmaking winger would be ideal.
- Nucker101

I would have said Moulson but hes more scoring than playmaking...

He's not a good #2 C though, Kesler with a playmaking winger would be ideal.

Edit: I'd love Edler + for ROR if Coorado re-signs Stasnty.
- Nucker101

He did have a broken jaw this year thanks to (frank)face Kassian.

Seriously though, Edler for Gagner. Would you do that? You guys need help up front, down the middle, no?
- systemtool

No, I'd be more inclined to do it for another 2C though. A 2C has much more value than a 2W.

What? He was on pace for over 40 last season and over 50 in 2010.

JVR has never even gone over 40.

Thanks for playing.
- golfingsince

Wow...I actually have to paste his totals for you...

2006 - 3pts
2007 - 20pts
2008 - 37pts
2009 - 42pts
2010 - 33pts
2011 - 49pts
2012 - 22pts
2013 - 9pts

Career (which factors GP) - 38.4934497817pts/season.

In conclusion...Edler is NOT a 40-50pt dman.

Your welcome.

Clarkson Vs. Bertuzzi


@ Winter Classic


Who wins the Scrap??

Wow...I actually have to paste his totals for you...

2006 - 3pts
2007 - 20pts
2008 - 37pts
2009 - 42pts
2010 - 33pts
2011 - 49pts
2012 - 22pts
2013 - 9pts

Career (which factors GP) - 38.4934497817pts/season.

In conclusion...Edler is NOT a 40-50pt dman.

Your welcome.
- Pen15

Perfect, now post JVR's totals to show you why he's not a 40 pt forward. I'll wait here.

Clarkson Vs. Bertuzzi


@ Winter Classic


Who wins the Scrap??
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Clarkson, for not being an ape.

Clarkson Vs. Bertuzzi


@ Winter Classic


Who wins the Scrap??
- Byfuglien Ate Me

I wanna say Clarky but honoustly, Bert.

Clarkson Vs. Bertuzzi


@ Winter Classic


Who wins the Scrap??
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Id like to think Clarkson seeing as he is about a decade younger.

Of course I do, just flipping it around on them.
- golfingsince

You've flipped nothing around...even using the pace figure (GP)...Edler is still NOT a 40-50pt dman.

Just stop...this is getting embarrassing.

I would have said Moulson but hes more scoring than playmaking...
- systemtool

Need a forward like how Tanguay used to be a couple of years ago, not many like that. Voracek from Philly I really like, but again it would have to be Edler + for them to even start that conversation since he's arguably their most valuable forward besides Giroux.

Perfect, now post JVR's totals to show you why he's not a 40 pt forward. I'll wait here.
- golfingsince

Again...I never made ANY CLAIMS on what JVR is. I simply fact checked the bullpoop you were spewing.

EDIT: Show me where I claimed that JVR is a 40/50/60/70pt forward...I'll wait.

I'd Say Crazy Eyes Clarkson

Just beats

Dead Eyes Bertuzzi.

Clarkson Vs. Bertuzzi


@ Winter Classic


Who wins the Scrap??
- Byfuglien Ate Me

The water bottle...

Need a forward like how Tanguay used to be a couple of years ago, not many like that. Voracek from Philly I really like, but again it would have to be Edler + for them to even start that conversation since he's arguably their most valuable forward besides Giroux.
- Nucker101

Being that your in a win now window, what about Briere on a flyer? Even though in Mon they havent found a place for him, he always does well in the playoffs.

I'd Say Crazy Eyes Clarkson

Just beats

Dead Eyes Bertuzzi.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

If Bert was in his prime before he dropped a decent amount of weight to stay in the league then I'd take Bert. Scary dude to piss off.

The water bottle...
- Fruitcakenipple

Bernie's ??

Or the one Bert bought Clarkson ??

I'm confused....

I love this Bo-Flex TreadClimber commercial.

"All you have to do is walk!"


WHAT YOU EAT IS AS IMPORTANT, IF NOT MORE IMPORTANT, THAN THE WORK OUT YOU'RE DOING.

People are dumb though. They'll believe it.

Again...I never made ANY CLAIMS on what JVR is. I simply fact checked the bullpoop you were spewing.

EDIT: Show me where I claimed that JVR is a 40/50/60/70pt forward...I'll wait.
- Pen15

Oh. So it's just laughable to trade a Dman that scores more points per season than the forward he's traded for. Gotcha.

Being that your in a win now window, what about Briere on a flyer? Even though in Mon they havent found a place for him, he always does well in the playoffs.
- aminnes

At 4 million for this year and next, I'd pass.

Being that your in a win now window, what about Briere on a flyer? Even though in Mon they havent found a place for him, he always does well in the playoffs.
- aminnes

I think he would die in the playoffs against one of SJ, LA, or STL.

Oh. So it's just laughable to trade a Dman that scores more points per season than the forward he's traded for. Gotcha.
- golfingsince

But he doesn't....so, that's kind of a problem. I dont think you did gotch him. It's okay, wear some knee pads next time and give it 100% out there.