Which blogger on Hockey Buzz has the links to 24/7 on their blog. I watched it last week and cant remember who it was?.
- isitin

Do you have telus tv?

Woah woah woah. We have POTENTIAL. Hitching your teams fortunes on Gards and Rielly is a huge mistake and over estimation.
- systemtool

and hitching it to Dion for the next 7yrs @7mil isn't??...

Leafs have there future #1 and #2 in Rielly and Gardiner...Sure the leafs D might hurt in the short term but thats a boatload better that hurting with a 7yr/7mil cap hit for a pylon....


Best hockey Dion has played in a leaf jersey is in the final year of a contract...Ya lets McCabe that female dog...We seen this way to many times before...
- Fruitcakenipple

That future is a few years away. Throwing rielly and Gardiner into Dion minutes right now is a terrible mistake. Let them develop while Phaneuf eats minutes. He us far from a pylon.

For (frank)sakes tool stop making me agree with you. Between you and sofa I now have to rethink my whole life.
- Yeti1181

Well that shouldn't take too long

Has it ever occurred to the people that are against the Phaneuf deal that he A could improve as a player or B could be traded 3-4 years down the road at which point his contract will be an after thought?

bunch of f'in drama queens on here, this contract is not a death sentence.

and hitching it to Dion for the next 7yrs @7mil isn't??...
- Fruitcakenipple

The better of the two options right now yes. And not ruin Gards and Rielly by rushing them into roles they are nowhere close to ready for? Well worth it.


We're a better team with Phaneuf, Gardiner and Rielly than we are with Gardiner and Rielly.

With Dion gone, we'll just run Gardiner out of town next. Yippee.

Well that shouldn't take too long
- faceto27

and hitching it to Dion for the next 7yrs @7mil isn't??...
- Fruitcakenipple

Newf.......... Leafs are kind of stuck in this situation. They need him badly, even though he is not a 7 mil a year defenseman. If we don't give it, he walks. That puts us in a worse situation.

We are caught between a rock and a hard place.

That future is a few years away. Throwing rielly and Gardiner into Dion minutes right now is a terrible mistake. Let them develop while Phaneuf eats minutes. He us far from a pylon.
- Canada Cup

correct... more of a road stud filled with sand

Well that shouldn't take too long
- faceto27

Well (frank) you sir, (frank) you indeed.

That future is a few years away. Throwing rielly and Gardiner into Dion minutes right now is a terrible mistake. Let them develop while Phaneuf eats minutes. He us far from a pylon.
- Canada Cup

gardiner is basically playing top minutes right now, but ya i get your point

Has it ever occurred to the people that are against the Phaneuf deal that he A could improve as a player or B could be traded 3-4 years down the road at which point his contract will be an after thought?

bunch of f'in drama queens on here, this contract is not a death sentence.
- Mr_Smokey

NMC will say otherwise.. and improve? he's regressed steadily for 6 years now

Leafs have there future #1 and #2 in Rielly and Gardiner...Sure the leafs D might hurt in the short term but thats a boatload better that hurting with a 7yr/7mil cap hit for a pylon....


Best hockey Dion has played in a leaf jersey is in the final year of a contract...Ya lets McCabe that female dog...We seen this way to many times before...
- Fruitcakenipple

This is called speculation, not fact. A team doesn't give away their Captain and #1 D in hopes that 2 kids will become something. Besides Gardiner isn't a 1 or 2.

Well (frank) you sir, (frank) you indeed.
- Yeti1181

NMC will say otherwise.. and improve? he's regressed steadily for 6 years now
- Dozzer

Offensively but improved defensively and is better all round then he used to be.

NMC will say otherwise.. and improve? he's regressed steadily for 6 years now
- Dozzer

Actually, he was better last year and this year than he was the year he got here.

This is called speculation, not fact. A team doesn't give away their Captain and #1 D in hopes that 2 kids will become something. Besides Gardiner isn't a 1 or 2.
- Mr_Smokey

Can I give away my two kids?

Offensively but improved defensively and is better all round then he used to be.
- Yeti1181

not enough to justify that contract

NMC will say otherwise.. and improve? he's regressed steadily for 6 years now
- Dozzer

I wouldn't say he's regressed. I'd say this year is his best two way year ever. But then again, it is a contract year.

Bigger mistake than the 7 mil a year will be if he gets a full blown NMC.

Actually, he was better last year and this year than he was the year he got here.
- systemtool

points have steadily decreased and he is an average shutdown guy at best

thats just the plain and simple truth of it

- faceto27

I'm sending my dog over to have a word with you.

I wouldn't say he's regressed. I'd say this year is his best two way year ever. But then again, it is a contract year.

Bigger mistake than the 7 mil a year will be if he gets a full blown NMC.
- faceto27

defensively he has gone from poor to average.. offensively he has gone from good to average

NMC will say otherwise.. and improve? he's regressed steadily for 6 years now
- Dozzer

If Gomez can be traded I think Phaneuf can be traded.

Both Gomez and Brian Campbell had 7 million dollar contracts during the previous CBA where there was a lower cap and they STILL got traded.

points have steadily decreased and he is an average shutdown guy at best

thats just the plain and simple truth of it
- Dozzer

Just because you keep saying it Dozzer doesn't make it to be true.

points have steadily decreased and he is an average shutdown guy at best

thats just the plain and simple truth of it
- Dozzer

I respect your opinion, that you label truth, but I think he is one of the better defensive Dmen in the game. His offense has decreased, but I really dont care much for that. The whole teams offense has decreased this season, and the whole team is struggling to play D.