Well edler plays on a better team shouldn't he have a better plus minus then dion who has bad hip gunnarson to play with. At least Edler has capable partners Dion ain't got poop. Points are really that big of a deal for defence however if you put up points you shouldn't have a bad plus minus.
- Yeti1181

I honestly don't think there's that big of a difference between the Leafs and Canucks.

And Edler has been paired with Garrison for most of this season—both LHDs, which means one has been playing his off side every game.

It's a bad pairing. The two don't work well together.

Yet wings are discussing 4 players

Gardiner>wings
- Bieksa#3

I didn't say just Gards did I?

About 4 weeks ago Jimmy Johnson said the chargers would win the wild card and everyone on the panel burst out laughing. Looks like old Jimmy knows a bit after all

Yeti taking a beating in here.

About 4 weeks ago Jimmy Johnson said the chargers would win the wild card and everyone on the panel burst out laughing. Looks like old Jimmy knows a bit after all
- Bieksa#3

The AFC is a joke, none of these wildcard teams would even sniff the playoffs in the NFC.

I honestly don't think there's that big of a difference between the Leafs and Canucks.

And Edler has been paired with Garrison for most of this season—both LHDs, which means one has been playing his off side every game.

It's a bad pairing. The two don't work well together.
- Fosco

I thought Garrison was having a good season? I know he's not putting up the offence but most kind of thought is numbers might dip a bit but he's been a steady d hasn't he?

I didn't say just Gards did I?
- Yeti1181

(frank) off troll

Yeti taking a beating in here.
- Nucker101

Not really. Don't make me get FCN and jbold over here!

(frank) off troll
- Nucker101

Remind me to ban you when I see you again.

I didn't say just Gards did I?
- Yeti1181

Kadri is a 2nd/3rd line forward. Franson and Gardiner are 4 and 5 d men respectively. I have no idea why a Kadri and Franson/Gardiner package for a top pairing d man is so bad. Maybe tor will get Seabrook for a 5th rounder

I thought Garrison was having a good season? I know he's not putting up the offence but most kind of thought is numbers might dip a bit but he's been a steady d hasn't he?
- Yeti1181

Not as good as he was last season, Fosco's right, those 2 aren't working together. Is it a coincidence that the pairing without a righty isn't playing up to their potential? I think not.

It's another reason why moving Edler and not Tanev makes sense, maybe acquire a RHD back as part of the package or wait until after the season and then bring up Corrado next year as the team's third RHD.

The AFC is a joke, none of these wildcard teams would even sniff the playoffs in the NFC.
- Nucker101

Every year this happens. Wasn't last year when a team under 500 made it in?

I thought Garrison was having a good season? I know he's not putting up the offence but most kind of thought is numbers might dip a bit but he's been a steady d hasn't he?
- Yeti1181

Isn't he top 10 in points amung D men?

Not as good as he was last season, Fosco's right, those 2 aren't working together. Is it a coincidence that the pairing without a righty isn't playing up to their potential? I think not.

It's another reason why moving Edler and not Tanev makes sense, maybe acquire a RHD back as part of the package or wait until after the season and then bring up Corrado next year as the team's third RHD.
- Nucker101

That's part of the problem leafs too. No right hand d men.

Not really. Don't make me get FCN and jbold over here!
- Yeti1181

That jbold dude never replies back to me whenever I troll back in response to him

That jbold dude never replies back to me whenever I troll back in response to him
- Nucker101

Probably doesn't know how. I'm positive somebody ties his shoes for him

That jbold dude never replies back to me whenever I troll back in response to him
- Nucker101

He just loses his mind and goes crazy.

Every year this happens. Wasn't last year when a team under 500 made it in?
- Yeti1181

Don't think so. Maybe the year before?


I remember when the AFC used to be the powerhouse not too long ago(back when the NFC West sucked)

Isn't he top 10 in points amung D men?
- Bieksa#3

Yep tied for 10 I thought he was putting up much points though. My bad.

Every year this happens. Wasn't last year when a team under 500 made it in?
- Yeti1181

Was it 2 yrs ago or 3 that the rams won the NFC west with a 7-9 record

Yep tied for 10 I thought he was putting up much points though. My bad.
- Yeti1181

In today's market a top 10 offensive d man who is above average defensively for 4.6 mill for the next 4 yrs is amazing. I love when bold and Co rip that contract

He just loses his mind and goes crazy.
- Yeti1181

He has one?

Was it 2 yrs ago or 3 that the rams won the NFC west with a 7-9 record
- Bieksa#3

That's what I was think of.

Yep tied for 10 I thought he was putting up much points though. My bad.
- Yeti1181

He has one?
- Nucker101

This is news to me as well