Every player has a specific role on the ice. Power forwards are used for specific strategy. Edmonton Oilers need a power forward badly. We're lucky to have guys like Scott Hartnell and Wayne Simmonds. You don't win without them.
- Schenn2shine

You dont have to tell me about players and thier roles. I'm just not happy with Hartnell's decline, and both players streakyness. In fact, on 5 on 5 you will more then likely see Hartnell at the top of a circle then in front of the net.

Yes. The league-wide interest in a guy like Simmonds shows that he can easily be replaced.
- jmatchett383

A lot easier to replace a power forward then a top defenseman.

A lot easier to replace a power forward then a top defenseman.
- youarewrong

Edit: Actually, not playing this game today. Disregard.

A lot easier to replace a power forward then a top defenseman.
- youarewrong

So we get yankapov yet?

I would keep Simmonds but Chicago don't have a power forward.
- Feanor

Dustin Byfuglien played a pretty large role to winning a Cup in 2010 against us as a Power Forward. Brian Bickell played a pretty significant role as a power forward in winning their most recent Cup.

A lot easier to replace a power forward then a top defenseman.
- youarewrong

Anybody in particular, or are we just guessing they'll be out there?

Anybody in particular, or are we just guessing they'll be out there?
- BulliesPhan87

Penner is UFA. Havent looked at the list, but feel free.

You dont have to tell me about players and thier roles. I'm just not happy with Hartnell's decline, and both players streakyness. In fact, on 5 on 5 you will more then likely see Hartnell at the top of a circle then in front of the net.
- youarewrong

Actually I think I do. We don't even score a goal without Scott Hartnell and Wayne Simmonds last night without them doing exactly what they do. Wayne Simmonds is tied with Jake Voracek with 27 points, this is second on the team. Scott Hartnell has the only most recent point streak going with 7 points in six games.

Dustin Byfuglien played a pretty large role to winning a Cup in 2010 against us as a Power Forward. Brian Bickell played a pretty significant role as a power forward in winning their most recent Cup.
- Schenn2shine

Yup and Chris Pronger took Edmonton to the Finals, Won a cup in Anahiem, and took us to the finals.

Penner is UFA. Havent looked at the list, but feel free.
- youarewrong

NO NO NO NO
he's turned into a healthy scratch for anaheim

Actually I think I do. We don't even score a goal without Scott Hartnell and Wayne Simmonds last night without them doing exactly what they do. Wayne Simmonds is tied with Jake Voracek with 27 points, this is second on the team. Scott Hartnell has the only most recent point streak going with 7 points in six games.
- Schenn2shine

Right, and what happens when both go cold again for 2 months. I know we need power forwards, I just dont think we need Hartnell. And IMO Simmonds Trade Value is much higher then his value to the team, so I would sell high, before he goes cold again, and just looks like a smaller version of Donald Brashear again. It's feast or famine for both guys. I think outside of a PP guy hartnell is done. And Simmonds could be a major piece to get the defensman we need. I'm not looking at winning this season, I'm talking about future.

NO NO NO NO
he's turned into a healthy scratch for anaheim
- 2Real

Good, then he will be cheap, and look just as good as Hartnell.

Penner is UFA. Havent looked at the list, but feel free.
- youarewrong

I had already looked at the list, I was just curious about who you particularly had in mind.

I had already looked at the list, I was just curious about who you particularly had in mind.
- BulliesPhan87

Dont have anyone in particular. But remember there are going to be more FAs then that are on that list with another year of compliance buyouts available. No telling who hits that list.

Forgive me but, who is the other guy (not Parros)?
- jmatchett383

Jackman

Yup and Chris Pronger took Edmonton to the Finals, Won a cup in Anahiem, and took us to the finals.
- youarewrong

Yes, this is true. Not sure I follow the point...

Right, and what happens when both go cold again for 2 months. I know we need power forwards, I just dont think we need Hartnell. And IMO Simmonds Trade Value is much higher then his value to the team, so I would sell high, before he goes cold again, and just looks like a smaller version of Donald Brashear again. It's feast or famine for both guys. I think outside of a PP guy hartnell is done. And Simmonds could be a major piece to get the defensman we need. I'm not looking at winning this season, I'm talking about future.
- youarewrong

How is Wayne Simmonds a comparable version of Donald Brashear, bcause they're both black?? Donald Brashear was an enforcer that I just so happen could play the game. He got little to no power play time. Brashear was only really in a checking role.

I was reading about a Toronto player, Komarov, who is currently in the KHL. He is an energy guy, but sounds a little like "Car Bomb." However, if you can tone him down a little bit, he might turn out to be like Downie. I remember when Downie came into the league, and was a little uncontrolled. That being said, he has turned out to be a decent energy guy. Here is a link to his page:

http://www.hockeysfuture....om/prospects/leo_komarov/

I wonder if he would fit in better than Rosehill or VandeVelde in the line-up.

Your thoughts? Thanks.

How is Wayne Simmonds a comparable version of Donald Brashear, bcause they're both black?? Donald Brashear was an enforcer that I just so happen could play the game. He got little to no power play time. Brashear was only really in a checking role.
- Schenn2shine

That's racist that you think its because they are black. The reason is, because when Simmonds goes cold... once he stops scoring, he cant handle the puck, he cant make passes. He just goes around, hits people and sometimes fights. I would say Simmonds is Dr. Jekly and Mr. Hyde. One day he plays the game like Bertuzzi in his prime, the next he plays like Donald Brashear.

That's racist that you think its because they are black. The reason is, because when Simmonds goes cold... once he stops scoring, he cant handle the puck, he cant make passes. He just goes around, hits people and sometimes fights. I would say Simmonds is Dr. Jekly and Mr. Hyde. One day he plays the game like Bertuzzi in his prime, the next he plays like Donald Brashear.
- youarewrong

yea but simmonds is 25 give him 2-3 years to get into his prime
hartnell is an old fart on his way out

I was reading about a Toronto player, Komarov, who is currently in the KHL. He is an energy guy, but sounds a little like "Car Bomb." However, if you can tone him down a little bit, he might turn out to be like Downie. I remember when Downie came into the league, and was a little uncontrolled. That being said, he has turned out to be a decent energy guy. Here is a link to his page:

http://www.hockeysfuture....om/prospects/leo_komarov/

I wonder if he would fit in better than Rosehill or VandeVelde in the line-up.

Your thoughts? Thanks.
- OrangeAndBlack1

My thought is the Flyers are not the best team to "tone" a player down. That Flying P is a target for guys like him, Rinaldo, and Carcillo.

Forgive me but, who is the other guy (not Parros)?
- jmatchett383

jackman

Jackman
- wilsonecho91

yea but simmonds is 25 give him 2-3 years to get into his prime
hartnell is an old fart on his way out
- 2Real

Hey, if there isnt a deal to be had, then there is no reason to trade Simmonds. But with his value so Freckin high right now, there is no reason not to kick the tires.

Right, and what happens when both go cold again for 2 months. I know we need power forwards, I just dont think we need Hartnell. And IMO Simmonds Trade Value is much higher then his value to the team, so I would sell high, before he goes cold again, and just looks like a smaller version of Donald Brashear again. It's feast or famine for both guys. I think outside of a PP guy hartnell is done. And Simmonds could be a major piece to get the defensman we need. I'm not looking at winning this season, I'm talking about future.
- youarewrong

?!?!?!?!?!?!

Simmonds value to the team is very high. He snd hartnell are the only forwards thst go into the dirty areas. These are they types of platers you need come playoff time. I wouldnt move either unless im getting more than I give. Simmonds will score 25 -30 a year. Many of those will be from busted plays, rebounds and deflections. He may not be a "skill" player, but his skill is tough to come by. Although, I will say, it is painful at times to watch him carry the puck, it seems he fakes himsrlf out when he trys to be fsncy with it....hahaha